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While I wouldn't take a removable battery over slimmer/lighter design, I have to say my experience differs from yours.

I owned maybe a dozen phones between 1994 and 2008. They all had removable batteries and I never got anywhere near needing this feature.
The first ever phone I owned with a non-removable battery was the iPhone 3G, and it's also the only phone on which I've managed to run out of juice far away from any recharging opportunity.

The problem isn't that the battery stinks, the problem is that the power source is so ludicrously disproportionate to everything you can do with an iPhone. You check some mail, surf a little, make a couple of calls and texts, listen to music while playing a game on the train to work, pull up some Google maps, and whammo, the battery is 50% down before lunch. It's like owning an electric Humvee, one charge takes you about 30 miles, and only if you switch off the stereo, the headlights, the LCD screens and the GPS, otherwise you're screwed
after 3 miles.
Using the 3g juice has solved the battery problem for me, several times. It also simultaneously charges the battery.
 
It looks much better next to the 3GS, looks much slimmer. Im still not sure if I like the lack of flush and I cant really tell how rounded the edges are but other than that it looks great. Steve is probably pissed. Whoever lost this is in HELL right now.

Also this proves that steve did say at the keynote that the 3gs will support all features SHOWN TODAY, not all features period.

Definitely makes the old iPhone look........ old.
 
The removable battery on my Sony Ericsson T610 was an essential feature - since I had to remove it several times a day to reboot the stupid, locked-up phone! :mad:

My loathing for that particular device is boundless.
Yeah, I had one of those too. And an M600i. And a P1i. And a P900. And a T68i. And they all froze occasionally, followed by the mandatory battery removal. But the iPhone 3G has frozen on me half a dozen times too, and since I can't pull out the battery I have to use weird button combinations. That's hardly an argument against removable batteries, right?

Apple's persistent removal of, well, everything isn't so nifty when things break. Remember back when copy protected music CDs got stuck inside lampshade iMacs and, due to the absence of a mechanical eject button, people actually had to take their iMacs in for repairs to get the CD out?
 
I'm going to write nay-sayers's names down for future reference.

I think there's a 75% this thing is real, but I would like to shame 100% non-believers just because they think they are right. XD
 
Ill admit it, from those fuzzy photos it looked alot more fake than I think right now (gizmodo has done quite a convincing job) but I still think the seams are anti-apple and still no chance of removable battery!
 
Don't know if i'm delusional but...i remember someone found a black bezeled iPhone Icon on some SDK, firmware or something.

Am I wrong? It was some months ago

another question: why is everybody talking about user replaceable battery? Gizmodo says nothing about this thing happening
 
Well they might as well just release it now since everyone knows!

What are we going to deliberate over for the next two months? :)
 
I'm just posting my thoughts here..
Doesn't this seem a little too easy?
Like the phone just happened to be on a bar room floor, suddenly sites have got there hands on the handset and are giving out every last detail they are able to and yet Apple hasn't pulled the plug on any of them yet?
Surely if Apple where worried about this device being out there, wouldn't we all be seeing plenty of replaced images with "removed by request"?
I think Apple is either sitting back laughing, or they are up to something bigger?
Just my thoughts...
 
Beautiful design. I dont understand how you cant like this. I HATED the chrome bezel of my 3gs. And always hoped that we would get wall to wall glass. So many people saying its un apple like....the aesthetic is as close to my imac as you could possibly get. All the designers in my agency think it looks amazing. Apple have finally given me the iphone i want. Just hope they come bigger than 64gig :p
 
They should just have given it back.

If you find something in a bar, you can 1) find out whom it belongs to, 2) give to the barkeeper in case someone asks the next day, or 3) you give it to the lost-property office.

They prefer to risk someone's Job than to give something back, that doesn't belong to them.

They had no right to keep it. That's all.
 
I'm really diggin the industrial design here. At first I was thinking WTF is this? After the side by side photos to current gen, it just looks so much classier and professional.
 
I highly doubt the new iphone looks anything like this. Remember how apple patents all sorts of stuff? It's to throw the competition off to send them in the other direction. A "Red Herring" if you will.

This is apple people! The company who made its partners and vendors keep a copy of the ipad chained up in a dark room with no windows long after it was revealed to the public!

So why would apple let some drunken idiot in a bar run around with the REAL iphone 4G they wouldnt. And if you really believe this is the iphone 4G then i have a bridge to see you in the desert
 
Beautiful design. I dont understand how you cant like this. I HATED the chrome bezel of my 3gs. And always hoped that we would get wall to wall glass. So many people saying its un apple like....the aesthetic is as close to my imac as you could possibly get. All the designers in my agency think it looks amazing. Apple have finally given me the iphone i want. Just hope they come bigger than 64gig :p

That's just how people on macrumors are. I guarantee you that most of the naysayers will quickly change their minds after they see the final design and get a chance to hold one in person. People on this forum are just sooo quick to jump to conclusions and quickly start with the negativity, it's really obnoxious.
 
Yeah, I had one of those too. And an M600i. And a P1i. And a P900. And a T68i. And they all froze occasionally, followed by the mandatory battery removal. But the iPhone 3G has frozen on me half a dozen times too, and since I can't pull out the battery I have to use weird button combinations. That's hardly an argument against removable batteries, right?

You mean a "weird button combination" like, um, holding down two buttons for a few seconds? :p

I'll take that over pulling a battery any day.

Apple's persistent removal of, well, everything isn't so nifty when things break. Remember back when copy protected music CDs got stuck inside lampshade iMacs and, due to the absence of a mechanical eject button, people actually had to take their iMacs in for repairs to get the CD out?

I don't think there's any way to manually eject a CD from my iMac either. And we've all had those moments when we couldn't get a disc to eject. Not good. Not good at all.
 
That's why I have no compassion for humans and I'll be glad to participate to certain agenda like some friends do...

I voted "little better", because it is, compared to the 3GS. Once again I know how to read. But that doesn't mean that it's not ugly as **** and that people won't understand where is the advance in design.
Aesthetics are always a subjective matter, but regardless of what you think of it you can hardly argue that it's a departure from Apple's style. The current iPhone is outdated -- all Apple products are aluminum and glossy black, while the current iPhone is made from white or black plastic (a leftover from the plastic whitebook/blackbook days) and features chrome (a leftover from the old iPods with chromed backs). Going aluminum/glossy black brings the iPhone back in sync with the rest.

To me it looks like Ive has gone pure function this time, like the latest iPod Shuffle which is so plain it makes a rock look blingy. In terms of functionality, durability and ergonomy there is definitely an advance in design here. The current iPhone is glossy and slippery all around, which gives you the feeling it will slip out of your hand any second. It's OK-ish to hold when you're playing games, but not when you're talking on it. The new one has a non-slippery, flat surface for your fingertips. That's an improvement.

In terms of durability, my year-old MBP still looks like it came from the factory yesterday, save for a shiny spot on the space key. The aluminum parts are in mint condition. My iPhone 3G on the other hand is pretty scratched up, I don't use a skin and I'm thinking Apple are trying to encourage 'going naked' with this new model since it should be more rugged. A lot of those skins make iPhones look like big ugly bathtub toys and that's not very good advertising. The chrome bezel is scratch prone, so good riddance there. And we won't be seeing any cracks around the headphone jack on the new one.

In fact, I just wish Apple could make good product for smart/demanding people
Apple customers are not demanding? Huh? These guys will take an iPhone back to the store if they open the box and find that a page corner is folded in the manual, or that there's a miniscule backlight leak. You won't find a more picky bunch in this galaxy. They'll return a MBP if one key is slanted .05 degrees or if two pixels in the corner have a slight yellowish tint that can only be spotted under a microscope.
 
Morality - assumption

It is so funny to me that an assumption is made that someone will loose their job. What if the person who lost the phone is Steve Jobs???

It is not so funny to me that (I think) nobody stated that the right thing to do when you find a phone is to try to return it to its owner which in this case is simply return it to Apple.

If you find something and keep it, is it legal, or is it just the case that in most cases you can get away with it? Gizmodo paid someone who found the phone, but gizmodo is not the rightful owner... mmmh...
Does Apple has a case against Gizmodo?

BTW thanks Gizmodo for all the good information, I am glad to have it, but maybe you should now return the phone.

Guy

If you loose your wallet with a credit card and a drivers license and a $20 bill, does the person who find it thereafter own the whole thing?
 
It is so funny to me that an assumption is made that someone will loose their job. What if the person who lost the phone is Steve Jobs???

It is not so funny to me that (I think) nobody stated that the right thing to do when you find a phone is to try to return it to its owner which in this case is simply return it to Apple.

If you find something and keep it, is it legal, or is it just the case that in most cases you can get away with it? Gizmodo paid someone who found the phone, but gizmodo is not the rightful owner... mmmh...
Does Apple has a case against Gizmodo?

BTW thanks Gizmodo for all the good information, I am glad to have it, but maybe you should now return the phone.

Guy

If you loose your wallet with a credit card and a drivers license and a $20 bill, does the person who find it thereafter own the whole thing?

In california if you find something you have two choices - leave it where you found it, or take possession of it as a depository for the rightful owner - in the latter case you must notify the rightful owner and return it (or an equivalent amount of restitution).
 
I'm loving this new design, the new glass back is just gorgeous and I'm sure it will be more striking in person. I really am just loving the fact that Ive completely redesigned it and went with a new style, and it still retains his typical beautiful design. It was really about time it got a new look.

I don't understand how people could think this is a worse design. The old iPhone with the bezel really looks dated and ugly next to the new one. I've always felt that the bezel needed to go, it make it look less "minimalist" typical of apple designs. I bet the people complaining right now would be the same ones complaining if apple just went with a slight change to the current design. Probably would have complained that the design hasn't changed much in years, and yet now that they do change the design you complain that it doesn't look like apple. There's just no pleasing some people.
 
1) It's obviously made by apple - unless gizmodo and engadget are completely making things up, which they don't do.

2) It's also obviously an unfinished prototype - Why else would it say "XXGB" on the back for the size?

3) It's obviously a recent prototype (post 3GS) because of the new features on it.

My Conclusion:
So we can assume that the released version will look something very much like this or at least have 'some' of the features that this one has.

The interesting thing to see will be what features if any are NOT included in the release (front camera, flash, etc). Recall the ipod touch without a camera debacle. Apple is more likely to withhold features that aren't quite ready, or that they could cash in on in a later release.
 
In california if you find something you have two choices - leave it where you found it, or take possession of it as a depository for the rightful owner - in the latter case you must notify the rightful owner and return it (or an equivalent amount of restitution).


I think it went like this...


Gizmodo: Hello Apple. - We have a device that might belong to you.
Apple: We deny everything! But we would like it back!
Gizmodo: Certainly! We will courier it over to you at once.
Apple: Gee thanks!
Gizmodo: Would you like to comment on the photographs we have taken of it?
Apple: Photographs?
Gizmodo: Lots of them!
Apple: ...But it's our phone! You can't! We have scary lawyers!
Gizmodo: We found it in a bar. We can! We asked our lawyers.
Apple: Crap! We'll need to bring forward the launch. Can you wait two weeks before publishing?
Gizmode: How about a week? And we get a ride in the jet.
Apple: Deal!

C.
 
I think it went like this...


Gizmodo: Hello Apple. - We have a device that might belong to you.
Apple: We deny everything! But we would like it back!
Gizmodo: Certainly! We will courier it over to you at once.
Apple: Gee thanks!
Gizmodo: Would you like to comment on the photographs we have taken of it?
Apple: Photographs?
Gizmodo: Lots of them!
Apple: ...But it's our phone! You can't! We have scary lawyers!
Gizmodo: We found it in a bar. We can! We asked our lawyers.
Apple: Crap! We'll need to bring forward the launch. Can you wait two weeks before publishing?
Gizmode: How about a week? And we get a ride in the jet.
Apple: Deal!

C.

You've only posted this not so long ago...
 
What are we going to deliberate over for the next two months? :)
The (rumored) revamped Mac Pro, which I personally find much more interesting. That case has looked the same since prehistoric times, i.e. before the Intel switch. And so has the Mac Mini. I don't think any of Apple's designs have remained unchanged for that long. It's been, what, 5-6 years? In the early 2000's, jaws dropped if Apple didn't revamp designs on a yearly basis (beige G3, turqoise G3, graphite G4, white G4, blob iMac, lampshade iMac, white slate iMac etc etc).

Also, new monitors. Will they retire the ancient Cinema 30" (which is fatter than iMac, in spite of the fact that the latter has an entire computer attached to the back of the screen) and if so, will they dare replace it with a 27" screen based on the iMac (a daring move, considering 16:9 aspect ratio screams "consumer")?
 
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