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Uh, "character" is just another word to rationalize ugliness.
Or they give the iPhone 6 character.
You kind of answered your own issue,I haven't seen anyone complaining about iPhone 5s aesthetic design,they look super cool,high quality and very nice on the eyes,you seem to dislike that,that's fine but you are of the minority as that design was and is indeed nice,better than any other smart phone by rivals.whereas 6 (back) does not seem nice and elegant at all,not just in my eyes but in eyes of MANY consumers based on these leaks.
And the cellular connection makes them useful. Every design is a compromise between functionality and appearance. Good design makes good compromises.
Design is not just industrial and technical aspect bud,an significant aspect of design is how it looks,how elegant the product is,and that's what Apple is famous for,if it was just about compromises for functionality,products such as iMac,Macbook Air or majority of Apple products wouldn't look as nice and epic as they do.
It's a design decision, not a flaw. A compromise between camera quality and overall thickness of the device.
You want to build a light device with a big screen and high picture quality. A protruding camera is unavoidable.
I'd say a poor design decision,flaw doesn't just mean technical,it can apply to aesthetic side of design.and this certainly applies here.was it really necessary to build the case that thin so the camera lens has to pop out? Couldn't it be slightly thicker to have a uniform and protected lens? besides I doubt even with the extra thin-ness a good quality camera was impossible.maybe they just didn't try hard enough cause they thought iship will accept whatever the product is just because it has larger screen..
You probably own an iPhone 5/5s and aren't in the market anyway.
Nope,as my signature says I own a 4s and I've been anticipating iPhone 6 to upgrade since last year.it's not gonna happen though,as I dislike ugly products.
You just don't understand what design is. Design is how it works, not how it looks.
Actually I do understand design far better than you do cause you seem to only understand functionality of the design and ignore the most important aspect of it : aesthetics.with that mentality,I wonder if you understant why Macbook Air is such an awesome design and product,you'd probably say because it's light and fast!
I doubt your infallibility on predicting what a dead man would do.
Well don't because my assumption was based of what he did previously,if you dig online you can find out how perfectionist he was and how involved he was with approving final designs.the very best Apple products in terms of design (iMacs,iPhone 4,Macbook Air, to name a few) were all designed under his supervision not just by Jony Ive,but on the other hand we have iPhone 5c,iPhone 5c croc case (disaster) and now this iPhone 6 which were designed under Ive's complete control as Cook is not involved in design,and Ive is the lead designer.
 
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On the iPad is resolved through a software tweak! I have an iPad air and I don't remember getting any activation when accidentally touching the screen at the edges. I am not sure if same can be done on the iPhone.

Yes, but most people don't pick up an iPad Air with one hand, like you do with phones. Not unless you are Shaq or something.
 
Haha did you not think I knew the usual phrase? It was intentionally exaggerated to match the very skeptical and unverified claims...
If you wanted to exaggerate, you should've used something smaller than a grain... like an atom of salt. What you said implies that nobody should be skeptical at all. Your logic doesn't make the phrase you used more accurate.

Anyway it's not that important, just a pet peeve... akin to "I could care less."
 
I'm actually happy they chose to use a thicker, presumably better camera that protrudes, rather than a thinner but worse camera that is flush with the phone

Or they could have made the phone a hair thicker, to allow for the better camera AND a bigger battery.
 
If the actual phone and finish comes just a bit close to this, I'm sold

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Some people like their phone to lie perfectly flat. For instance, if you use it as a level.

You simply don't use it as a level for any job that requires accuracy below 0.4 degrees, which is about the offset that you'd get.

Also, that is not how the sensor works. It gives you some voltage readout, and it is up to the software to figure out what is level. Meaning that you would calibrate it against a known level surface to get it accurate at any rate.

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First you choose your platform, then you decide between all the variants.

Why would I do that? I can use any platform, and at any given time I more than likely will be using at least two different mobile operating systems.

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It's plastic

Which is by far the best material for a handheld radio device. Probably also the reason why so many carriers used it as a reference phone for testing their coverage.

device is thick as hell

Hardly, and the rounded edges made it a pleasure to hold.

the screen is clearly not seamless with the device

Obviously when two dissimilar materials meet, there will be a seam. The point is (well, was) that the curve continues "seamlessly" as swiping from the outside was a big point in the UI.

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If the actual phone and finish comes just a bit close to this, I'm sold

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That does look nice, but I can't help thinking how the gaudiness of iOS 7/8 really ruins the design. How much better would it not look with a monochrome theme, or something with muted and broken colors instead of that carnival freak show...
 
Was it really necessary to build the case that thin so the camera lens has to pop out?
YES, it was really necessary to make the device thinner, when making it higher and wider.
Otherwise it would gain volume and weight.
Couldn't it be slightly thicker to have a uniform and protected lens?
NO, it absolutely couldn't.
Besides I doubt even with the extra thinness a good quality camera was impossible.
You can doubt the facts as much as you want, z-axis height is the main contributor to phone camera quality.
Maybe they just didn't try hard enough cause they thought iship will accept whatever the product is just because it has larger screen..
Sure, optics have nothing to do with picture quality.
A phone cameras size is solely dependent on corporate laziness and customer sheep-ness.

ColdShadow, you are the smartest person on the internet. :p
 
Anyone who thinks the 6 is the "best iPhone design ever" is a fanboy, sorry.

Anyone who comes to Macrumors and leaves such a comment is a troll, in no uncertain terms.

My ignore list is getting quite large during this ramp up.
 
Here is my obligatory comment based on all the hardware I've designed that I think makes total sense and that I'm certain everyone else will find extremely interesting:

"Looks good."

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Anyone who comes to Macrumors and leaves such a comment is a troll, in no uncertain terms.

My ignore list is getting quite large during this ramp up.

Oh no, what will I do with my life!

I didn't realise that to be on this site one had to blindly worship every product Apple makes.
 
Oh no, what will I do with my life!

I didn't realise that to be on this site one had to blindly worship every product Apple makes.

You joined up in '10 and haven't figured this out yet? Not only every product, you must also say "Hail Apple!" 5x daily, participate in 2 Minutes Hate against ABA* and be only mildly knowledgeable about everything you argue, "because Apple".

Additionally, you must, at the same time, *castigate* Apple for not building products based on fantasy renders, not "listening to its customers" (you, specifically) as well as, when backed into a corner, be utterly dismissive of anyone and/or anything that contradicts whatever has your panties in a twist.

You get extra "righteousness points" if the first Apple product you've ever paid for with your own money was made in the last 5 years. :)

-K

*Anything But Apple
 
YES, it was really necessary to make the device thinner, when making it higher and wider.
Otherwise it would gain volume and weight.
NO, it absolutely couldn't.
You can doubt the facts as much as you want, z-axis height is the main contributor to phone camera quality.
Sure, optics have nothing to do with picture quality.
A phone cameras size is solely dependent on corporate laziness and customer sheep-ness.

ColdShadow, you are the smartest person on the internet. :p
actually Gudi,you are so close-minded,there is no point for me to waste my time replying to your posts anymore.you clearly have no idea about how technology and engineering works and how it can evolve.you are limited to what you read here and there on some internet forums and articles.and don't worry about my "smartness",I've been smart enough to earn decent money so I can afford to purchase some nice items for myself including some Apple products,wait until you finish school and get a job and see how well you can do with your own "smartness" before assessing my intelligence. :D
 
Well...

I've been smart enough to earn decent money so I can afford to purchase some nice items for myself including some Apple products,wait until you finish school and get a job and see how well you can do with your own "smartness" before assessing my intelligence. :D

...I've reach all of these milestones you assume he has not. My assessment is that you are an idiot, do not understand engineering as much as you profess/pretend to and have a malformed ego.

It isn't Apple's job, nor in Apple's best interest, to make a beautiful phone..."like an old Leica camera" (oh boy) that doesn't actually work correctly as a telephone...its core functional purpose. They already went down that path and paid dearly for it in bad press and unprecedented numbers of returns.

Why don't we do this: Let's wait until the first Q after the thing goes on sale, and see what the numbers say, hmm?

Or are you one of these people that feel that Apple won't make "your phone" because people keep buying the ones they *actually* make? :)

-K
 
Grab the popcorn guys - it's loony hour, every hour, from now until Keynote time. Ordinarily "sane" (?) people are exploding with temporary (material object-induced) "joy", brought on by any number of unpredictable factors, or rage at random intervals, predictably articulated with unexplicable outbursts of self-serving one-upmanship and supercillious, sarcastic, moronic commentary.

Get off the text-based internet until after the event, could be my best advice to one and all. How sad that people can't withstand the temptation to be so horrible to their fellow brother... OVER A PHONE.... and one which will be LONG forgotten in a few years, abandoned and filling landfill whilst the first world amuses itself with the next fad to feed the insatiable consumerist machine...

You're looking at a cause of debt, life-changing and senseless arguments, marriage destruction, violence, murder, robbery... and the second it's "out of date", it's resigned to the trash, whilst the spiritual effects of the desire it caused, continue to cause ripples through the lives of those who couldn't wake up to what ISN'T worth the squandered time and energy it causes them and their fellow man... a tiny little hand-held relationship bulldozing machine, in many cases:

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I still use an HP iPAQ from 2003 (not alone, mind) - this stuff needs to have a longer life, this irritates me intensely.
 
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Ya' know...

How sad that people can't withstand the temptation to be so horrible to their fellow brother... OVER A PHONE....

Ya' know...it wouldn't be so bad were it not for the fact the the *worst* of us have/have done the least. It perturbs me to no end when someone who's gear list looks like this:

iMac 2011 21.5"
iPhone 4s White
iPad Air White

...professes themselves to be the consummate Apple person. If you are in the industry and have something insightful to add, I'm all for it. When you spout ad hominem after ad hominem, peppered with varied degrees of "No True Scotsman"-type crap and that dated list of stuff (likely all in the 'Good' slot as opposed to the 'Better' or 'Best' ones in the Product Matrix) is what you're standing on to look down on others...well...yeah. You're going to get a barb or two from me until you calm the hell down a bit. :)

-K
 
You're looking at a cause of debt, life-changing and senseless arguments, marriage destruction, violence, murder, robbery...
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Sooo...no positives from any of this ubiquitous technology then? I mean, I get what you are saying with the whole "peace, love and understanding" angle but let's not ignore or trivialize the upside.

The Verge actually had a nice piece today about "Fanboys" and their ilk. Vehement "Defenders of the Faith" give us clues to inadequacies in their personal lives, no doubt...but let's be honest: in highly-developed countries, there really isn't much left in the day-to-day life of folks that have achieved even a modicum of success and stability to "fight" passionately about.

It only bothers me when rationality *completely* goes out of the picture and folks start defending *opinions* as facts, Hopes and Dreams™ as reality.

In our little 'scene' there is a whole other level of this because apparently for some, the personal investment in Apple products defines not just *what* they own but *who* they are/aspire to be...the most vocal "Apple-hating Apple Lovers" have the *worst* self-image problems I've seen on forums like this.

They spend so much time arguing their position and choices *to others* that they *neeeeeedddd* Apple to "do the right thing" (in their assessment) or how will they ever face the world?

So, I hear ya...but you have to look at it with a kind of pity, instead of frustration because some people are "fighting". They do so because they must.

-K
 
Sooo...no positives from any of this ubiquitous technology then? I mean, I get what you are saying with the whole "peace, love and understanding" angle but let's not ignore or trivialize the upside.

The Verge actually had a nice piece today about "Fanboys" and their ilk. Vehement "Defenders of the Faith" give us clues to inadequacies in their personal lives, no doubt...but let's be honest: in highly-developed countries, there really isn't much left in the day-to-day life of folks that have achieved even a modicum of success and stability to "fight" passionately about.

It only bothers me when rationality *completely* goes out of the picture and folks start defending *opinions* as facts, Hopes and Dreams™ as reality.

In our little 'scene' there is a whole other level of this because apparently for some, the personal investment in Apple products defines not just *what* they own but *who* they are/aspire to be...the most vocal "Apple-hating Apple Lovers" have the *worst* self-image problems I've seen on forums like this.

They spend so much time arguing their position and choices *to others* that they *neeeeeedddd* Apple to "do the right thing" (in their assessment) or how will they ever face the world?

So, I hear ya...but you have to look at it with a kind of pity, instead of frustration because some people are "fighting". They do so because they must.

-K

You've just described all the negative aspects of consumerism-driven life. I love gadgets of course - I am not saying that noone should buy them, but I hate all the presumed, empty and shallow "superiority" that people have, based merely on material things that anyone can own. I trust God for my security and peace, not the next best gadget :)

These ARE the last days, after all - this is all resounding in the scriptures, without error.
 
You aren't going to like this...

You've just described all the negative aspects of consumerism-driven life. I love gadgets of course - I am not saying that noone should buy them, but I hate all the presumed, empty and shallow "superiority" that people have, based merely on material things that anyone can own. I trust God for my security and peace, not the next best gadget :)

These ARE the last days, after all - this is all resounding in the scriptures, without error.

Pretty much the same thing...except which the tech crap, you get something tangible.

And *everything* is "in the scriptures" if you take time to look for it and interpret generalities from the Bronze Age as if they have some sort of congruency with whatever is going on today...Church of Cupertino, Church of Mountain View, Church of Redmond, Church of [Deity]...same thing.

Me...I'm a card-carrying member of The Church of the Poison Mind :)

-K
 
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