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These companies relish higher prices and profits.
Which is exactly why making companies pay more for parts will make them charge more for the product. For profit companies aren’t in it to not make profit. Even non-profits need to make at least enough to pay their workers, unless it’s an entirely volunteer org.

Prices only ever go up over time, never come down long term. They won't drop them in any relevant form.

I take it your Econ class doesn’t cover inflation until next week?
As for the ever present “inflation bad!”, this video explained the reasoning behind *slight* inflation being good, all in 7 minutes.

Several years ago, FedEX, UPS and many other related companies started imposing a "Fuel Surcharge" blaming it on the sudden increase in gas prices. Over the course of time, the gas prices dropped, even lesser than what it was before the fuel surcharge was imposed. However, that additional fee continued to be imposed so that the corporates could show handsome profits.
I’m absolutely inclined to believe their profits went up, not down, when the gas prices dropped. To play devil’s advocate, I’d need to know if they had any other costs go up while gas prices were falling, or deferred costs.

2025 is a similar and great opportunity for companies to raise prices. The consumers will complain for a few months, but will used to it and the higher prices will become the way the of life.

Generally agree, but prices going up 145% (x2.45) is more than a few months of complaints. Ports across the west coast are seeing a 35% reduction in cargo ships because things are simply not being bought/sold by Chinese and American companies. I’m in Seattle, and the port is eerily quiet.

And just like during the pandemic, new products that cost more will also increases the cost in the used market…assuming there is a viable used market. Used underwear anyone?
 
Stop the panic. There will be some resolution coming. Neither country wants to endure a war, that isn’t skillful. Already starting to talk about it: https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-open-talks-trump-admin-lowering-tariffs-ministry-says

So Trump lied to us? He doesn’t want to bring manufacturing back? I think your line is supposed to be “stop the panic, Trump said prices wouldn’t go up because China pays for our taxes”. Look, I get that defending Trump makes your head hurt sometimes. It hurts our heads too.

 
Tim Cook must take responsibility for this. He was warned countless times about the dangers of relying too much on China for their manufacturing but he ignored the warnings.
I’m not a Tim apologist or anything but… the iPhone I’m typing this on was made in India
 
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American consumers won’t stand for huge price hikes for the next 2 years. Trump is already the least popular President after the first 100 days in 80 years. His approval rating will only get worse as everyday prices start climbing. He will try and lie his way out of this mess claiming the polls are fake news but he will be forced to back down.

No matter what some people say, this is Trump's last term (can't run again).

His polls could be in single digits and it would not change anything.
 
No matter what some people say, this is Trump's last term (can't run again).

His polls could be in single digits and it would not change anything.
He 'can't do' a lot of the things he is doing, and yet he is doing them anyway. He is trying to normalize the idea of a third term, and it's all a joke / "trolling the libs" until he actually goes for it.
 


During yesterday's earnings call, Apple CEO Tim Cook said that the company's March quarter hadn't been impacted by Trump's tariffs because it was able to build up supply, but it will take a hit in the current quarter that ends in June. While Cook said that Apple had no updates to make on pricing at the current time, it's not clear how long Apple will be able to absorb tariff costs, especially if there are policy changes.

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Apple's Current Tariffs

U.S. President Donald Trump has levied tariffs on almost every country, but there have been so many pauses and so much back and forth on tariff policy that it's tough to keep track of.

Right now, there is a 145 percent total tariff on goods imported from China into the United States. 20 percent of that was put into place earlier this year (the fentanyl tariff), and the other 125 percent is a direct result from "Liberation Day" and retaliatory tariffs put in place in the ongoing trade war with China.

Apple has been paying the 20 percent tariff on all products that it imports from China since that tariff was put in place, but Apple has been exempted from the 125 percent additional tariff. In April, the Trump administration exempted most of Apple's devices, along with computer components, displays, TVs, and more.

There are some Apple products, such as accessories, that are not exempt from the extra 125 percent tariff in China, and Apple is paying the full 145 percent for those.

For all other countries except for China, Trump put a 10 percent tariff in place, with higher "reciprocal" tariffs on multiple countries where Apple sources device components. Those tariffs ranged from 20 percent to 46 percent, but have been subject to a 90-day pause since April 9. The pause does not apply to the baseline 10 percent tariff, so Apple would be paying a 10 percent tariff on goods imported from countries like India, Thailand, Vietnam, and the EU were it not exempt. Apple is exempt from the 10 percent tariff, and it is not paying the reciprocal tariff rates at the current time.

In a nutshell: Apple is paying a 20 percent tariff for most of the products that it imports from China. For others, like accessories, Apple is paying 145 percent.

Apple's exemption is not a permanent status and the 90-day pause is temporary, so it's unclear how policies might change in the future.

How Apple Has Mitigated Tariffs So Far

For the March quarter, Cook said that Apple saw a limited impact from tariffs because the company was able to optimize its supply chain and inventory.

Basically, Apple knew the tariffs were coming, and stockpiled devices in the United States.

Cook said Apple already sources approximately half of the iPhones sold in the United States from India, and the company expects the majority of the iPhones sold in the U.S. in the coming months to have India as their country of origin. Almost all iPads, Macs, Apple Watches, and AirPods sold in the U.S. will be sourced from Vietnam. Sourcing devices from India and Vietnam means Apple doesn't currently have to pay the 20 percent tariff for goods from China, minimizing tariff impact.

June Quarter Impact

Apple isn't able to precisely estimate the impact from tariffs in the current quarter because it is "uncertain of potential future actions prior to the end of the quarter" in June.

Cook said that if the current global tariff rates do not change, policies remain the same, and no new tariffs are added, the tariffs will add $900 million to the company's costs. Cook cautioned that this was not an estimate that could be used for future quarters because of "unique factors" benefitting the June quarter, which suggests the impact could be more severe going forward.

If there are policy changes and additional tariffs introduced, it could cost Apple more than $900 million. Cook said that much of the $900 million estimate is from the 20 percent tariff that Apple is paying for goods coming from China. $900 million is less than one percent of Apple's quarterly revenue and under two percent of Apple's iPhone sales, which is why Apple is able to absorb the current costs.

Cook said that Apple didn't know what would happen with tariffs, and he wasn't able to provide insight beyond June. He did say that Apple would continue to source U.S. devices outside of China, and that Apple's operations team has done "an incredible job around optimizing the supply chain and the inventory," which Apple will continue to do.

Starting today, the U.S. has removed the de minimus exemption that meant goods with a value under $800 were not subject to tariffs. That will impact the refurbished components that Apple receives from China for AppleCare repairs, and Apple will need to tweak its supply chain and procedures to avoid it.

The Section 232 Investigation

In mid-April, the Trump administration initiated a Section 232 investigation that will focus on recommendations to reduce dependence on foreign suppliers, and it covers rare earth metals, magnets, semiconductors, and other products that Apple uses.

Depending on the outcome of the Section 232 investigation, Trump could levy additional fees on semiconductors and equipment for manufacturing semiconductors, along with critical minerals. New tariffs on semiconductors would impact Apple.

The Section 232 investigation spans several months and we may not see any outcome from it until December 2025, after which Trump will need to decide on a solution. So we could be looking at 2026 for any kind of dedicated semiconductor tariff.

The 90-day tariff pause is shorter term, and Apple's exemption could end at any point.

Manufacturers Already Raising Prices

Other tech companies and electronic manufacturers that have not been exempted from the current tariffs give us some insight into what might happen if Apple is hit with new tariffs. Several companies have already raised prices, and there's undoubtedly more to come... Click here to read rest of article

Article Link: Apple Absorbs Tariff Costs While Electronics Prices Surge, But How Long Will It Last?
Does the tariff get applied to the expected retail cost of the product, or their production/bottom line cost?
 
Apple might consider to sell their products in a plastic bag without box, adapter, cable, etc. for sure the plastic bag will be priced at $99. A better plastic bag, called as "iBag pro ultra", will be priced at $199.
 
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Tariffs are based on the cost price that’s coming in right? So apple already had a very good margin one would assume so it can’t be that bad for them.. not ideal but I doubt they are selling at a loss
 
Those who need to upgrade from their current iPhones will buy regardless. If they can't afford it, they will not. I'm not upgrading this year; I do not need to.
 
It will last until someone actually knows what the tariffs are going to be.
 
Tim Cook must take responsibility for this. He was warned countless times about the dangers of relying too much on China for their manufacturing but he ignored the warnings.

Your evidence for ignoring the warnings?

Apple tried and largely failed to make a Mac in the US in 2012.
India manufactured its first iPhone eight years ago. Foxconn had been building that facility in India for years before it came online in 2016, and it took Apple quite some time to convince Foxconn to do it. Even so, Foxconn has struggled to find all the talent they need to get production past where it is today.

Tariffs are based on the cost price that’s coming in right? So apple already had a very good margin one would assume so it can’t be that bad for them.. not ideal but I doubt they are selling at a loss

What do you think a “very good margin” is? $100 on a $1000 phone? That’d be pretty good! But $900 x 2.45 $2,205.

Even if it were $500 profit (it’s not) that’d be $1,225 before any profit at all. No profit at all means no more money for future endeavors.
And let’s not forget that US profit only kicks in after Apple has paid all the US sales and support staff, and any other costs of selling a phone *after* it leaves the port of entry.
 
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This is incorrect. The Pro launched at $699. Sony raised prices outside of the US last year, but has held off any increases in the US.



They raised prices worldwide and also announced game price increases that have nothing to with tariffs. Given that Sony raised prices last year, and at the time Microsoft said they would hold for then but might not be able to forever, ascribing all of that to potential tariff impacts would seem incorrect.
Nintendo started with the switch 2 launch, ms just announced price increases for consoles and games, ps will follow for games (already did for consoles, for the 2nd time)

Btw digital games should not be subject to tariffs

Apple will follow suit, tariffs or not

This is not (only) about tariffs imho
 
Your evidence for ignoring the warnings?

Apple tried and largely failed to make a Mac in the US in 2012.
India manufactured its first iPhone eight years ago. Foxconn had been building that facility in India for years before it came online in 2016, and it took Apple quite some time to convince Foxconn to do it. Even so, Foxconn has struggled to find all the talent they need to get production past where it is today.



What do you think a “very good margin” is? $100 on a $1000 phone? That’d be pretty good! But $900 x 2.45 $2,205.

Even if it were $500 profit (it’s not) that’d be $1,225 before any profit at all. No profit at all means no more money for future endeavors.
And let’s not forget that US profit only kicks in after Apple has paid all the US sales and support staff, and any other costs of selling a phone *after* it leaves the port of entry.
Apple’s average profit margin for the last quarter was 47%. They have plenty of room to absorb the tariffs and keep prices the same by lowering their profit margins.
 
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