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didn't Texas people had enough time to evacuate its a no from me

NO, they did not. Harvey was originally expected to make landfall as a category 1. He spun up more quickly than anyone expected: people went to bed Thursday night expecting a category 1, and when they got up on Friday, he was a category 3, and increased to 4 just prior to landfall.

Posting from just outside of Austin.
 
Hmmm.... how about good ole Timmy just helps by about 20 million or so from that Apple offshore account? Red Cross is not for me, I'd donate to the church who is sending a truck up there with supplies.

Yes, that's good and important to remember that TX is going to need help for a long time. So when the church truck w/ donations of food & clothes is ready to deliver in the next weeks and months, they will definitely need your donations. I donate to & work with All Hands Volunteers which provides down the road help as well after natural disasters around the world.

But I am also going to donate to the Red Cross. I don't mind chipping in for gas to get the helicopters off the ground to get stranded people or drop in medical supplies when trucks can't get in due to the flooding.
 
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A bit better than the hateful left wing scam front called "Southern Poverty Law Center" but still not great. Check the details before blindly handing over your money.

I'm all for helping, but shenanigans always result from these sorts of things. When the leaders of the Red Cross are very wealthy people, that gives me pause.
 
A bit better than the hate agenda driven front called "Southern Poverty Law Center" but still not great. Check the details before blindly handing over your money.

I'm all for helping, but shenanigans always result from these sorts of things. When the leaders of the Red Cross are very wealthy people, that gives me pause.

Although I agree with you re the SPLC (Mark Pitcavage is one of the most dishonest POSen I've ever run across--I debated him on talk.politics.guns on USENET decades ago), with a Charity Navigator score of 90%, the Red Cross is one of the better bets right now.

I think, at this point, only the U.S. Navy is better at delivering humanitarian aid on a large scale.
 
Wouldn't it be better just to go to the Red Cross site and donate? That way, you get the tax deduction, and you can be sure Apple isn't "taking from the cookie jar". I'm guessing that all the donations from iTunes page shows that Apple is making the donation?
 
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At least Apple's doing something on the front page of its website.

I had a look at other companies websites to see what they're doing:
  • Microsoft - nothing
  • Google - nothing
  • Amazon - nothing
  • Visa - nothing
  • MasterCard - nothing
  • American Express - nothing
  • Target - nothing
  • Walmart - nothing

Wow.

Now, remember that Houston is the oil capital of the US, with no less than 25 Fortune 500 companies headquartered there. Surely they'd step up and offer web resources to help their local community organize and recover? Wouldn't you think? (Self interest, if nothing else.)

So I checked the websites for the ten largest Houston corporations (the number below in bold is their Fortune 500 ranking). These are big, multinational, oil-rich players who pump money out of the ground 24x7:
Nothing.

So well done Apple. Thinking different indeed.
 
At least Apple's doing something on the front page of its website.

I had a look at other companies websites to see what they're doing:
  • Microsoft - nothing
  • Google - nothing
  • Amazon - nothing
  • Visa - nothing
  • MasterCard - nothing
  • American Express - nothing
  • Target - nothing
  • Walmart - nothing

Wow.

Now, remember that Houston is the oil capital of the US, with no less than 25 Fortune 500 companies headquartered there. Surely they'd step up and offer web resources to help their local community organize and recover? Wouldn't you think? (Self interest, if nothing else.)

So I checked the websites for the ten largest Houston corporations (the number below in bold is their Fortune 500 ranking). These are big, multinational, oil-rich players who pump money out of the ground 24x7:
Nothing.

So well done Apple. Thinking different indeed.
Just beacuase they haven't stuck something on their websites, it doesn't mean they haven't done anything.
 
Wouldn't it be better just to go to the Red Cross site and donate? That way, you get the tax deduction, and you can be sure Apple isn't "taking from the cookie jar". I'm guessing that all the donations from iTunes page shows that Apple is making the donation?
As long as your donation is less than $250, your iTunes receipt is sufficient documentation and you can take the tax deduction. When you get over $250, you need a written acknowledgement from the charity, which of course you won't receive using iTunes like this.
 
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At least Apple's doing something on the front page of its website.

I had a look at other companies websites to see what they're doing:
  • Microsoft - nothing
  • Google - nothing
  • Amazon - nothing
  • Visa - nothing
  • MasterCard - nothing
  • American Express - nothing
  • Target - nothing
  • Walmart - nothing

Wow.

Now, remember that Houston is the oil capital of the US, with no less than 25 Fortune 500 companies headquartered there. Surely they'd step up and offer web resources to help their local community organize and recover? Wouldn't you think? (Self interest, if nothing else.)

So I checked the websites for the ten largest Houston corporations (the number below in bold is their Fortune 500 ranking). These are big, multinational, oil-rich players who pump money out of the ground 24x7:
Nothing.

So well done Apple. Thinking different indeed.

Walmart doesn't care about it's customers, or it's employees, only it's bottom line. Same thing goes for the oil-based energy companies.
 
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I will be donating. The nursing home picture just destroyed me in the inside. They confirmed that it was real and have been rescued.

This is too sad.
 
Red Cross is pretty good, not perfect at 90%: https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=3277

That said, for a massive effort like this, the infrastructure of a huge charity like Red Cross is valuable.

Even at best, they use these major disasters as a donation drive to bring is as much money as possible for their general coffers. This money is not earmarked at all to do anything for the hurricane relief and most of what they take in for it will not be used for hurricane relief.
 
Walmart doesn't care about it's customers, or it's employees, only it's bottom line. Same thing goes for the oil-based energy companies.

By *LAW*, any publicly-traded company has an affirmative duty to maximize return to its shareholders. This does not imply, as you claim without evidence, that they don't care about their customers or employees.

Wal-Mart enjoys a 3% profit margin. Oil companies, on average, enjoy a 10-11% profit margin. You can easily verify this for yourself from their publicly-available 10-K and 10-Q filings.

Compare that to Apple.
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View attachment 714782 I will be donating. The nursing home picture just destroyed me in the inside. They confirmed that it was real and have been rescued.

This is too sad.

"They" who? I can guarantee you that it's fake: note the lack of water wicking up the fabric of the blanket of the woman in the foreground, and the lack of water wicking up the dress of the woman knitting in the background. Were this real, they would be soaked. Plus, the power is still on.

It's 'shopped. It's a very good 'shop, but it's a 'shop.
 
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didn't Texas people had enough time to evacuate its a no from me
You are misinformed, only those by the coast that were in direct path of hurricane were ordered to evacuate.

Houston was not ordered to evacuate and most of Houston is under water right now.
 

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I had a look at other companies websites to see what they're doing:
  • Microsoft - nothing

http://www.redcross.org/donations/c...ortunities-and-corporate-supporters/Microsoft

According to the red cross, MSFT donated $465 million to non-profits last year on top of $142 million donated by their employees. I'm not checking the rest of your list, but your making stuff up doesn't make things true.

And remember, these donations go to the red cross general coffers and will not be used for this particular disaster. Major disasters are nothing but marking opportunities to the red cross.

So well done Apple. Thinking different indeed.

Yes, thinking different; keeping their cash in Timmy's money vault while encouraging their customers to donate on their behalf -- and acting like this has more virtue than giving directly. Timmy is a truly special businessman.
 
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By *LAW*, any publicly-traded company has an affirmative duty to maximize return to its shareholders. This does not imply, as you claim without evidence, that they don't care about their customers or employees.

Wal-Mart enjoys a 3% profit margin. Oil companies, on average, enjoy a 10-11% profit margin. You can easily verify this for yourself from their publicly-available 10-K and 10-Q filings.

Compare that to Apple.
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"They" who? I can guarantee you that it's fake: note the lack of water wicking up the fabric of the blanket of the woman in the foreground, and the lack of water wicking up the dress of the woman knitting in the background. Were this real, they would be soaked. Plus, the power is still on.

It's 'shopped. It's a very good 'shop, but it's a 'shop.
Go to www.cnn.com. It’s on the home page. This story is ALL OVER THE PLACE.

Also on Fox News if you think CNN is “fake news.”

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/2...to-texas-nursing-home-15-seniors-rescued.html
 
Before I donate, anyone know ther percentage the Red Cross actually gives out of every dollar?

Charity Navigator (charitynavigator.org) says they spend 90.1 % of their income on programs (disaster relief, classes, other services, etc.) and are rated 3 stars out of 4. Other major spending is 3.8% administrative costs and 5.9% fundraising.
 
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didn't Texas people had enough time to evacuate its a no from me

wether they were inside their home during the hurricane or not, that does not stop the water.

so you evacuate, does that magically prevent your home from flooding over while your gone? does that magically prevent every single item and belonging youve worked towards from literally floating down the river of water that used to be your street?
does that prevent your business or your school from taking tens of thousands of dollars in damage? does that automatically prevent you form losing your job because the business you worked at is literally nonexistent now?
 
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