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Yeah, sure blah, blah. But this is easy, and it's a link away.

How much did you give?

Links sorry on a blackberry and will not have access to a computer until late tongiht or tomorrow at best and it will be limited then but for info I suggest you go look at SJ billion thread that I believe is on the first page. Plenty of it in there.
If I have to provide links for the edu discounts being reduced quite often then there is no hope for you.


As for me giving. Sorry I do not have a job right now and what I do have in savings is being drained for school expenses and currently I am scrambling to try to find enough funs to make it threw my last year of school. That means I am currently around 9 grade short of what I need to finish school.

Sad you attack someone who short on funds to defind a company sitting on billions and brings in billions a year that refuses to donate even a penny.
 
Links sorry on a blackberry and will not have access to a computer until late tongiht or tomorrow at best and it will be limited then but for info I suggest you go look at SJ billion thread that I believe is on the first page. Plenty of it in there.
If I have to provide links for the edu discounts being reduced quite often then there is no hope for you.


As for me giving. Sorry I do not have a job right now and what I do have in savings is being drained for school expenses and currently I am scrambling to try to find enough funs to make it threw my last year of school. That means I am currently around 9 grade short of what I need to finish school.

Sad you attack someone who short on funds to defind a company sitting on billions and brings in billions a year that refuses to donate even a
penny.

Stay in school. May I suggest a writing or spelling class?
 
Moderator, could you perhaps chime in?

Sorry that me calling Apple out on there feel good actions bothers you. We should call Apple out on crap like this.
Blocking gift cards from donating leave a HUGE bad taste in my mouth and just proves that this all show and no real action behind it. They are not willing to put one cent of real money into this.
We should act apple for blocking gift cards and it would be nice to see the media pick it up and embarrass Apple into what it should of been doing in the first place.
 
Sorry that me calling Apple out on there feel good actions bothers you. We should call Apple out on crap like this.
Blocking gift cards from donating leave a HUGE bad taste in my mouth and just proves that this all show and no real action behind it. They are not willing to put one cent of real money into this.
We should act apple for blocking gift cards and it would be nice to see the media pick it up and embarrass Apple into what it should of been doing in the first place.


Call them out on what? Is there a reason they don't allow their use? Accounting issues maybe? Some other reason we are not aware of?

There are plenty of things one can criticize Apple for. Making it easy for their hundreds of million iTunes customers to easily donate to Japan Earthquake and Tsunami Relief is a good thing.
 
Now, dear Apple, if you just would use some of the billions in the bank to make your data center green. Just refuse to use nuclear power. We currently see that it's not reasonable.

Apple, you got the money, you got the sun in silicon valley, you got the wind in NC - go green for god's sake instead of doing cheap publicity stunts.
 
To say that Apple is doing this out of the goodness of their heart is a blatant lie. Like several before me have stated, Apple allowing users to donate through them really does not show any true concern at all. I will, of course, provide links for my evidence.

Firstly, it is safe to assume for the context of Japan that apple did not provide any donations themselves. While I cannot provide any definitive proof of this, the fact is, neither can the people who say the opposite. However, it is undeniably more fair to put the burden of providing this fact on those who claim that Apple has, in fact, donated because as a large corporation, it is natural that any donation or good will, will be publicized in some way. Therefore, because no one has provided evidence on either side, it is more fair to assume Apple has not made a corporate donation because they themselves have not announced that they have or will do so. When the news that they are allowing donations to happen through them has become huge news, its even more unlikely that Apple would allow a significant donation from them go unnoticed.

Secondly, Apple's partnership with the Red Cross reflects a choice that will actually do little to benefit victims. Someone mentioned previously that the Red Cross is notorious for being corrupt. I have done the research for you at the links bellow, from various reputable sources, you can see that the Red Cross is not actually effective at distributing aid.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/nonprofit-organizations/american-red-cross/-editorial-more-red-cross-cor-45xbb.htm
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/07/30/eveningnews/main516886.shtml
http://www.thelocal.se/26200/20100421/
This evidence is actually well documented and frankly undeniable so it is safe to say that Apple did not make the best decision in pairing itself with the Red Cross.

Thirdly, not allowing gift card donation is an act of greed. The reason for this is simple. Apple has already sold the gift card. Therefore, if donations are allowed through gift cards, Apple will be compromising a piece of profit that it was already guaranteed. When you donate through a gift card, Apple will need to take additional money out of its own pocket to fulfill the donation. However, if Apple forces the usage of another source of payment, they will keep more money for themselves because the the donation made by credit card would most likely not have gone to the purchase of music or media. There is no other reason for Apple to deny the usage of a gift card and so its undoubtable that Apple really prioritizes small amounts of money over the donations made to Japan.

While I do openly encourage to people to attack this case, it is reasonably safe to assume that Apple is not an actual supporter of charity because many of the potentially controversial decisions they made (Red Cross, No Cooperate Decision, Not accepting gift cards) could have no logical reasoning besides economic benefits. Apple still puts small financial costs before the needs of charity work in Japan.


Thanks for reading
-Frank
 
Call them out on what? Is there a reason they don't allow their use? Accounting issues maybe? Some other reason we are not aware of?

There are plenty of things one can criticize Apple for. Making it easy for their hundreds of million iTunes customers to easily donate to Japan Earthquake and Tsunami Relief is a good thing.

well legally they can not report the money as revenue or profit until the card is used but Apple does know that 30% of the money in that gift card account goes into their pockets in the future. If they allowed donations with it OMG there goes being able to count on it and can not report to investors look what we have lock up in the pipe line.

AKA pure greed. Someone else explained a lot of it. this is not an accounting issue and if it was one it should be one Apple should work out to fix. They can write it all off as a tax write off.
 
Secondly, Apple's partnership with the Red Cross reflects a choice that will actually do little to benefit victims. Someone mentioned previously that the Red Cross is notorious for being corrupt. I have done the research for you at the links bellow, from various reputable sources, you can see that the Red Cross is not actually effective at distributing aid.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/nonprofit-organizations/american-red-cross/-editorial-more-red-cross-cor-45xbb.htm
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/07/30/eveningnews/main516886.shtml
http://www.thelocal.se/26200/20100421/
This evidence is actually well documented and frankly undeniable so it is safe to say that Apple did not make the best decision in pairing itself with the Red Cross.

Thanks for reading
-Frank


Thanks Frank. :)

You're a good man.
 
Regardless of your opinions of Apple and the Red Cross etc please if you have the means and can do something please help these people out. I have many Japanese friends and have been to Japan. They are great people. I live in San Francisco and this tragedy can happen here any time.
 
Now, dear Apple, if you just would use some of the billions in the bank to make your data center green. Just refuse to use nuclear power. We currently see that it's not reasonable.

Apple, you got the money, you got the sun in silicon valley, you got the wind in NC - go green for god's sake instead of doing cheap publicity stunts.

Amen. While I give Apple credit for improving the eco-friendliness of their products, Apple should focus on the power that it implements for their data centers and plants.
 
That speak volumes about how greedy apple really is. GOD forbid something like this cost apple one cent. Charging to the credit card Apple take out the credit card processing fee (1-5% depending on the card) and pass on the rest. If iTunes gift card apple has to eat that fee and it comes out of Apple profit. It is sad and truly pathic

This donate to red cross threw iTunes is nothing more than a feel good by Apple but clearly it cost them nothing. They do just enough to look like they care but truly do not.

My god kid, even the given circumstances you don't fail to post your usual anti apple drivel. :mad:

90% of your posts are nothing more than speculative nonsense, of course always one-directional.

As for me giving. Sorry I do not have a job right now and what I do have in savings is being drained for school expenses and currently I am scrambling to try to find enough funs to make it threw my last year of school. That means I am currently around 9 grade short of what I need to finish school.

Sad you attack someone who short on funds to defind a company sitting on billions and brings in billions a year that refuses to donate even a penny.

Helping others in need is not only about giving money. Personally, I think you should spend your time in a home for elderly or something instead of trolling this forum.
 
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Well done Apple ... but what about Christchurch?

I applaud :apple: for doing this for Japan and I'm certainly going to donate, but can't help feeling disappointed that this wasn't done for the Christchurch earthquake (magnitude 6.3) on February 22.
Whilst I appreciate that the scale of the devastation in Japan is far worse than Christchurch (by a hugh degree) it still doesn't make the loss of life in Christchurch any less real (or as important). With rebuild of the city (It's estimated that it will take 5-10 years to rebuild) costing over $10 billon dollars i'm sure Christchurch would also really appreciate any extra $$ that you are able to provide.

Thank you.

http://www.christchurchearthquakeappeal.govt.nz/
 
Best to go out of the way and donate directly to Red Cross. No sense in the money being handled by any other third party - no matter altruistic they try to be.

It seems like the most direct way to donate to the Japan Red Cross is via Google because JRC's website don't seem to accept online donations. Otherwise another alternative would be donating to your country's RC that are sending a team to Japan.
 
Regardless of your opinions of Apple and the Red Cross etc please if you have the means and can do something please help these people out. I have many Japanese friends and have been to Japan. They are great people. I live in San Francisco and this tragedy can happen here any time.

I'm with you on this, I live in Mexico City and a terrible earthquake will happen here again. I was just waiting for Apple to enable donations from other countries, now that it is available I'll donate.

good cause!

unfortunately the link does not work in the south african itunes store........

:(

francois

I believe they are now allowing dontations from international stores :)
 
Found this in my RSS feed this morning.


Wow, this email is from a friend of mine that works for Apple in Japan... makes me happy Apple went the extra mile here, check out his story below:

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Dear Alex L, David, & Kevin,

Hi this is XXXXX in Japan. As you all must have heard, the 5th largest earthquake in recorded history hit us on Friday, 2:30pm Japan Time. As Alex often says on TWiM, stories on the ground are often quite different from the stories in the news, and there is a tech story that I'd really like to tell: the story of Apple Inc in Japan.

Full disclosure: I work at Apple at one of its stores in Japan. The earthquake hit while I was working on the first floor of one of their stores. As the entire building swayed, the staff calmly led people from the top 5 floors down to the first floor, and under the ridiculously strong wooden tables that hold up the display computers.

7 hours and 118 aftershocks later, the store was still open. Why? Because with the phone and train lines down, taxis stopped, and millions of people stuck in the Tokyo shopping district scared, with no access to television, hundreds of people were swarming into Apple stores to watch the news on USTREAM and contact their families via Twitter, Facebook, and email. The young did it on their mobile devices, while the old clustered around the macs. There were even some Android users there. (There are almost no free wifi spots in Japan besides Apple stores, so even Android users often come to the stores.)

You know how in disaster movies, people on the street gather around electronic shops that have TVs in the display windows so they can stay informed with what is going on? In this digital age, that's what the Tokyo Apple stores became. Staff brought out surge protectors and extension cords with 10s of iOS device adapters so people could charge their phones & pads and contact their loved ones. Even after we finally had to close 10pm, crowds of people huddled in front of our stores to use the wifi into the night, as it was still the only way to get access to the outside world.

Anyway, I mention this not because I work at Apple now, or because I'm an admitted fanboy, but because I'm genuinely proud of the Apple Japan staff and their willingness to stay open to help people that day. And I'm also impressed with the way Apple's products (and yes, Google's, Twitter's, and Facebook's) helped them that day. Even after we had to close, many of the staff stayed outside the store to fixing iphones and teaching people how to contact family or stay informed via wifi.

TWiM, TWiT and Rev3 have talked about the power of tech & the cloud during the recent global events, so I wanted to let you know of one more example during the Great Tohoku Earthquake in Japan.

Sincerely,
XXXXX
Great Tohoku Earthquake Survivor 2011
----- UPDATE: -----

As of the writing of this, another nuclear plant just had an explosion so I will keep the 2nd half of the story as brief as possible as I may need to evacuate soon (weak smile).

A quick list of kind things Apple did after we closed:

1. Because the trains and phones were down, almost everyone who worked in Tokyo was stranded deep in the city. All the hotels were booked, the roads were jammed, so hundreds of people were instantly homeless. Apple told all of their staff - Retail AND Corporate - that they could go sleep at the Apple stores. The Senior managers at the stores had been notified earlier and unbeknownst to us, had gone out to stock up on food and drinks after the very first quake hit.

This was a godsend because by 11pm (118 aftershocks later) all food and drinks were sold out at every store within walking distance. And when I say walking distance, I mean 3-4 hours of walking distance. (Tokyo is a big city.)

Letting not just Retail but corporate staff sleep at the Apple stores was genius because:

1a. The corporate offices are in skyscrapers with over 50 flights of stairs. With all elevators in Japan shutdown, this was a nightmare.

1b. The Retail stores were the only areas where WE controlled the buildings, from top to bottom, so we could monitor, fix, and maintain the back-up power, networks, and heating ourselves.

1c. Ubiquitous wifi and Facetime devices gave us a lifeline to our families and the rest of the world. Facetime turned out to be MUCH more stable than Skype (And I'm a Skype fanboy!)

1d. With theater rooms and breakrooms designed for 150+ people, the Apple stores were the most comfortable places to be and to sleep. Much more comfortable than sleeping on the street on a cold March night.

2. Once staff let their families know that they were not only safe but how comfortable we were (break room refridgerators stocked with food and drink, etc), family members began asking if they could stay at the Apple stores as well. Of course Apple said yes. One business team member's stranded mother walked 3.5 hours to be with her daughter at the store. When she arrived, the Apple store staff gave her a standing ovation ("Warm Welcome") like they do for customers during a new launch.

3. The head of Apple International HR and of Japan Retail happened to be in Japan that week. Both came and spent the night with us in the stores and told everyone that if anyone wanted to try their luck getting home on their own, Apple would pay for any food, drink, or transportation fees that that person incurred on the way. "Your safety is most important."

If, on their way home the staff member realized they couldn't make it, but they found an open hotel, Apple would pay for it. Since many people lived 2-3 hours away, this ended up meaning 11 hour walks home, $300 taxi fares, and $800 hotel rooms (only the luxury hotels had vacancies). Executives from Cupertino and London Facetimed with us, letting us know not to worry, they supported us, and that they would write off on it all.

4. We continued to open our doors to stranded people on the street fixing iphones, selling battery packs, or simply teaching people how to get streaming news on their smart-phones until 3am in the morning. ;)

And lastly, as I write this now 3 days later, even though the Japanese government says everything is fine, nuclear plants continue to explode. And we still haven't even gotten the 7pt aftershock that is predicted to come this week, nor the nuclear/acid rain that is predicted to fall within the next 3 days. I hate to say this, but things may only get worse before they get better.

I've been calling my girlfriend at work, asking her to come home, but because the Tokyo government hasn't said anything, her company won't let her leave. On the other hand, my manager at Apple called me to let me know that Apple will support any decision I make regarding leaving the country or the area, and that a job will still be waiting for me if I decide to come back.

That is why I am a fanboy. Ack! Sorry, that wasn't brief at all!

Thanks for reading!

XXXXX
 
Google Red Cross Scandals and get your head out of the sand.


You are an idiot. The last thing they need in Japan is dollar bills. They need organizations with the resources to help people. Relief agencies need funds at all times to keep their operations running, but even more so when a crisis strikes. The American Red Cross is directly supporting the Japanese Red Cross financially, per their request, and you'd be a fool to think donations to the American Red Cross are only padding the pockets of the operators.

When a tornado touched down in my neighborhood, within what felt like minutes the American Red Cross was their with food, water, and blankets for the entire neighborhood. That's the kind of support the people in Japan need at this moment.
 
well legally they can not report the money as revenue or profit until the card is used but Apple does know that 30% of the money in that gift card account goes into their pockets in the future. If they allowed donations with it OMG there goes being able to count on it and can not report to investors look what we have lock up in the pipe line.

AKA pure greed. Someone else explained a lot of it. this is not an accounting issue and if it was one it should be one Apple should work out to fix. They can write it all off as a tax write off.

I really don't think that's it... If someone wanted to make an iTunes purchase, they could do it with a gift card, or credit. The point is, they would rather have you use a credit card to encourage you to use the gift card on iTunes purchases, which is understandable. Honestly, who the hell cares? Bottom line: Apple is encouraging donations. Who cares about "With what"? Is a credit card somehow less convenient? If I were Apple, and I had to chose between letting people use a credit card, iTunes gift cards, or both, I would chose the credit card, for the simple reason that it isn't any less convenient.
 
I really don't think that's it... If someone wanted to make an iTunes purchase, they could do it with a gift card, or credit. The point is, they would rather have you use a credit card to encourage you to use the gift card on iTunes purchases, which is understandable. Honestly, who the hell cares? Bottom line: Apple is encouraging donations. Who cares about "With what"? Is a credit card somehow less convenient? If I were Apple, and I had to chose between letting people use a credit card, iTunes gift cards, or both, I would chose the credit card, for the simple reason that it isn't any less convenient.

goes back to the fact that I am going to call it a "feel good" action by Apple. It sickening that they are blocking gift cards which goes to show you how little Apple really cares to do just enough to make it look like they care.

Apple is a company that could easily do a lot of good yet choosing to not do anything that could hurt their bottom line and cut out of those insane profits.
I am going to say we should demand more out of Apple. I refuse to give them praise for these actions. If they would allow gift cards to be used then I would call it a good thing but I am going to call crap action when I see one and this is a crap action. If you want to donate to the red cross. Apple is not the company I would go threw.
 
goes back to the fact that I am going to call it a "feel good" action by Apple. It sickening that they are blocking gift cards which goes to show you how little Apple really cares to do just enough to make it look like they care.

Apple is a company that could easily do a lot of good yet choosing to not do anything that could hurt their bottom line and cut out of those insane profits.
I am going to say we should demand more out of Apple. I refuse to give them praise for these actions. If they would allow gift cards to be used then I would call it a good thing but I am going to call crap action when I see one and this is a crap action. If you want to donate to the red cross. Apple is not the company I would go threw.

So, again, what have YOU done lately, to help people in need? You seem to have a lot of time in your hands trolling this forum, so why not taking responsibility and sticking to the high ethical and moral standards you seek from Apple and do something good? I know, you are a school kid with little pocket money from mom, but nevertheless your living standard is several times higher compared to the average kid on this planet. So instead of pointing fingers, why not taking some time off this forum and do some community work for example?

But I know, it is easier to speculate nonsense on a tech blog, especially if it can be combined with your usual anti-:apple: drivel.
 
So, again, what have YOU done lately, to help people in need? You seem to have a lot of time in your hands trolling this forum, so why not taking responsibility and sticking to the high ethical and moral standards you seek from Apple and do something good? I know, you are a school kid with little pocket money from mom, but nevertheless your living standard is several times higher compared to the average kid on this planet. So instead of pointing fingers, why not taking some time off this forum and do some community work for example?

But I know, it is easier to speculate nonsense on a tech blog, especially if it can be combined with your usual anti-:apple: drivel.
who says I do not do that. I tend to volunteer my time when I got it and have done plenty of community work over the years. I am willing to bet more hours than you. I just do not go off bragging about it for ego.

Also before you start calling me out on it because I have done a lot. Even more so when I had a job and income because then I had some money for it. Now both my time and money are more limited and less predictable.
I find it funny that you take such offence you Apple being called out on the crap they do like this. Apple could really and should do a hell of a lot more and at the very least let people use the iTunes gift cards. Apple needs to be called out on that. I would not of said a word if Apple had allowed iTunes gift cards and credit to be used. Sad that because that somehow insults you that you have to tear me down for calling Apple out on BS. Apple should be shamed for this and change to allow for it.

I have and had volunteered my time. What the hell have you done? So much for you trying to insult me there. Backfires a little doesn't it when I can back my words.
Also I might point out to you 2 wrongs do not make a right.
 
who says I do not do that. I tend to volunteer my time when I got it and have done plenty of community work over the years. I am willing to bet more hours than you. I just do not go off bragging about it for ego.

Also before you start calling me out on it because I have done a lot. Even more so when I had a job and income because then I had some money for it. Now both my time and money are more limited and less predictable.
I find it funny that you take such offence you Apple being called out on the crap they do like this. Apple could really and should do a hell of a lot more and at the very least let people use the iTunes gift cards. Apple needs to be called out on that. I would not of said a word if Apple had allowed iTunes gift cards and credit to be used. Sad that because that somehow insults you that you have to tear me down for calling Apple out on BS. Apple should be shamed for this and change to allow for it.

I have and had volunteered my time. What the hell have you done? So much for you trying to insult me there. Backfires a little doesn't it when I can back my words.
Also I might point out to you 2 wrongs do not make a right.

First, if you start finger pointing to what others should do, then you shouldn't be surprised if you get called out. And second, no, I don't feel insulted about your usual anti-Apple scribble. Why should I? :confused:

We don't know what the reasons are behind the payment and donations methods. Of course, it just has to be greed - it just fits better in your modus operandi :rolleyes: It couldn't be some sort of accounting issues or maybe simply a way, to ensure fast transactions so money could be forwarded as quickly as possible on an international level?

But it is not up to me to speculate here, fact is, that basically within a few hours and over the weekend after the terrible earthquake, Apple, unlike many other companies and organizations, had at least set something up to raise some money.
 
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