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That Watch face looks way too busy. What are you supposed to be glancing at? I wouldn’t even know what to look at there’s just too much noise there. At least make it look nice, I don’t understand anyone saying how it does. Just a cluster of information slapped on the front with no thought put behind it. Then again that’s what I’ve been to myself about all of Apples software descions as of late.
Some people want lots of info in the space. And this is very nicely formatted means to do just that IMO. It’s not like the are eliminating the ability to minimize/simplify your watch face. Even on this one, you can just select no complications. So now you can have simple or very informative. User choice!
 
That ("That watch face is way too cluttered.") is, I'm sorry, a very silly complaint. Apple offers dozens of watch faces, and on each one you can leave complication slots blank if you want to.

They're obviously showing off this one for people (like myself...) who find our watches so useful we wish we could pack even more info on a single face. But nothing forces you to use this style of info-dense face.
I just hope they have something more or less equivalent but with digital time.

As for the actual watch face note two interesting things, the UVI and the temperature. Of course those could be obtained from a weather service, but giving them prominence on the "demo" face (note that "other weather" like rain is not being displayed) may mean that the watch has two things some of us have asked for for a while --- a local temperature sensor and something that's tracking cumulative UV exposure.
Cumulative UV exposure would be really handy but local temperature not as much since when you're inside it wouldn't be very useful and being so close to your skin, the temperature wouldn't be very accurate as there is usually a warm layer around your body. I used to have a watch with a temperature sensor and it was never accurate because of this reason. Perhaps they could improve upon it today but I doubt it.

As for it being a silly complaint, if you read what I wrote I was more getting at the point that a lot of people try to make as to why Apple won't allow third party watch face development: Developers would design cluttered interfaces that would mar Apple's "beautiful design". This is evidence to the contrary and anytime that argument is used we can point to this cluttered face as an example of why that argument doesn't hold much water. I'd love to see third party watch faces, and I did say that it's nice to have an option. I recognize that we don't have to use this face as there are many available, but saying that it kinda flies in the face of Apple's usual clean design aesthetic. I might use this face from time to time, but not likely as a daily driver unless I can tone it down a few notches. However, I am hoping that complications with the little meter thing underneath are going to be available from other faces as well.
 
What’s that hole next to the crown ?!?
An obvious possibility is another mic hole (Siri definitely doesn't seem to hear as well on watch as on phone, and one part of this might be fixed with another mic or two)?

Another possibility is behind that hole is a bolometer or something like that (ie ambient temperature sensor)? Or perhaps there are good reasons to put a UV sensor in that location, slightly behind a hole, to get ambient values and not be blinded by the sun?

Another question for the ages is whether THIS will finally be the year that Apple phone and Apple watch do something useful with their barometers? We've been promised that they would tell us things like what floor you parked on for years now, but they still seem to basically generate no useful user-facing information.
 
They're not getting rid of the crown.

It's simply capacitive just like the newer home button. It will still rotate, however.


I doubt the crown is capacitive. It still has the creases. Hold the crown of your current watch with one finger and then rub against it with another finger. That doesn‘t feel right.
 
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Any significance to Wed the 23rd? Only time the 23rd falls on a Wednesday in 2018 was May. Maybe I'm missing something... hmmmm.

Otherwise looks nice maybe enough to upgrade my Series 2
 
That ("That watch face is way too cluttered.") is, I'm sorry, a very silly complaint. Apple offers dozens of watch faces, and on each one you can leave complication slots blank if you want to.

I'm sure everyone knows there are other watch faces--it's a smartwatch after all.

Also, it's perfectly valid to criticize the pictured watch face, or any other watch face, even though several watch faces are available.
 
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It's pretty clear both the side button and crown will be haptic.

Both are recessed to a significant degree.


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Yeah, I just know it's difficult to tell because the angles are slightly different. Even the focal length of the camera used in the 3D modeling software (or by the real camera if these aren't renders) can change the perspective. The crown is less obvious, but perhaps. I'd welcome it as sometimes when I snap my wrist back, especially when wearing gloves, it triggers Siri. So anything to make it smaller could help.
 
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I have series 2 and very happy with it.
But if 4 is something I may be interested in so altough I don’t have money for it I will make an effort if it’s gonna be nice.
 
So is the "gather round" thing discounted as far as the watch is concerned now?
 
Quick answer: convenience. Many times I don’t want or need to engage in a notification, but being able to see it quickly and efficiently is amazing. Also, I don’t miss a single notification since the haptic feedback taps my wrist. So if it’s super noisy or my iPhone is elsewhere on a desk or in another room, I’ll never miss that notification.

Other things like being able to control my music or podcasts on my wrist without pulling out my iPhone adds to that convenience.
Seems like Apple watch simply isn‘t for you and that‘s okay.

I like wearing a watch, I like the design, I like the fitness tracking, I like having notifications and Siri on my wrist/be able to control my lights, see the weather forecast and control music from my wrist. It‘s no phone replacement of course but I didn‘t expect it to be. I expected it to be a watch with some extra features.
Thanks for the reply guys, I'm actually honestly asking as if it's worth it to me i will buy one. I do work out 5-6 times a week and i definitely can see the benefit of being able to change my music without taking out my phone. However, if its a shuffle feature, rather than a scrolling list of my music i could pick, that wouldn't be that convenient.

I actually wouldn't like being jolted everytime a notification pops up. I am very busy and that would be very distracting. A lot of times i put my phone on silent face down for hours so i don't get distracted by my screen lighting up.

I don't use siri or care for UV/fitness/weather stuff.

Based on what I'm seeing, the convenience for someone like me isn't enough to justify the cost, so I'll probably pass. Thanks for the response it is appreciated
 
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That Watch face looks way too busy. What are you supposed to be glancing at? I wouldn’t even know what to look at there’s just too much noise there. At least make it look nice, I don’t understand anyone saying how it does. Just a cluster of information slapped on the front with no thought put behind it. Then again that’s what I’ve been to myself about all of Apples software descions as of late.

Not trying to insult you, but if you need simple use simple...this is an example of what you can do. I would know what I want to look at before I raise my hand and be looking at that part of the screen. it's not like the complications are in a random spot every time you look at them.
 
Another question for the ages is whether THIS will finally be the year that Apple phone and Apple watch do something useful with their barometers? We've been promised that they would tell us things like what floor you parked on for years now, but they still seem to basically generate no useful user-facing information.

It does track flights climbed rather well. I use this as a timestamp for when I arrived at work (on the second floor) everyday.
 
An obvious possibility is another mic hole (Siri definitely doesn't seem to hear as well on watch as on phone, and one part of this might be fixed with another mic or two)?

Another possibility is behind that hole is a bolometer or something like that (ie ambient temperature sensor)? Or perhaps there are good reasons to put a UV sensor in that location, slightly behind a hole, to get ambient values and not be blinded by the sun?

Another question for the ages is whether THIS will finally be the year that Apple phone and Apple watch do something useful with their barometers? We've been promised that they would tell us things like what floor you parked on for years now, but they still seem to basically generate no useful user-facing information.
Who promised that feature? The barometer is useful in that it tells me how many flights of stairs climbed in the activity app.
 
I doubt the crown is capacitive. It still has the creases. Hold the crown of your current watch with one finger and then rub against it with another finger. That doesn‘t feel right.

The creases are for rotation. The crown will still rotate. But pushing the crown perpendicular will no longer be a mechanical action.
 
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My favorite part is that the red dot has been reduced to a thin red circle! Wish they could get rid of it entirely, but this is much better than leaving it the way that it was.

That watch face is way too cluttered. I mean, it’s kinda nice to have an option for an information dense display, and it makes sense if the new display face is bigger that they could pack more in. But things that look like this are supposedly the reason that Apple hasn’t allowed third party developers to design custom watch faces—it makes the watch look bad. That being said, they did about the best job you could possibly do when it comes to fitting that many complications on the display at once. I didn't even notice the calendar event text until I had looked at it for full minute.

I thought it was interesting that the original story on 9to5Mac didn't say anything about the rose gold stainless steel enclosure.

Considering your earlier posting on the thread earlier this morning ... I'm surprised you didn't take note of the circular UI design ... fitting your want for a circular Apple Watch. I hope this doesn't confirm it but ????
 
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Cumulative UV exposure would be really handy but local temperature not as much since when you're inside it wouldn't be very useful and being so close to your skin, the temperature wouldn't be very accurate as there is usually a warm layer around your body. I used to have a watch with a temperature sensor and it was never accurate because of this reason. Perhaps they could improve upon it today but I doubt it.

As for it being a silly complaint, if you read what I wrote I was more getting at the point that a lot of people try to make as to why Apple won't allow third party watch face development: Developers would design cluttered interfaces that would mar Apple's "beautiful design". This is evidence to the contrary and anytime that argument is used we can point to this cluttered face as an example of why that argument doesn't hold much water. I'd love to see third party watch faces, and I did say that it's nice to have an option. I recognize that we don't have to use this face as there are many available, but saying that it kinda flies in the face of Apple's usual clean design aesthetic. I might use this face from time to time, but not likely as a daily driver unless I can tone it down a few notches. However, I am hoping that complications with the little meter thing underneath are going to be available from other faces as well.

"a lot of people try to make as to why Apple won't allow third party watch face development"
A lot of people may say this, doesn't mean it's true.
Much more likely, I suspect, is Apple concerns over power (and perhaps also memory). Giving an app access to the watch face is giving it a huge opportunity to burn energy constantly, and we KNOW that developers abuse that sort of power, and that Apple then gets blamed. (Consider, eg, how two high profile apps --- Skype, and Facebook --- both burned large amounts of battery, which made many iPhones, and Apple, look bad. And that's from companies that are large enough that they should know what they are doing.)

Every time developers screw up, Apple tightens the screws and tries to ensure that their next round of products aren't as susceptible to that particular abuse.

Temperature, I think, can be handled well through a bolometer. Many "sports" watches (diving, climbing, running) feature temperature sensors, and given what they cost and who uses them, I assume those sensors do their job well.
 
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