Apple Accuses Former Employee of Stealing Vision Pro Secrets

[iluvcrap2000]

how does apple know what he did on his macbook unless they're spying on him?

 

[turbineseaplane]

how does apple know what he did on his macbook unless they're spying on him?

Total aside, but I love your username - LOL

Gave me a hearty laugh 😂

 

[nathansz]

At least Apple isn't waiting like 5 years to file lawsuits anymore. God on them. I hope the dude get's smashed in half. Anti-Poaching laws need to be written specifically for the tech sector. I think the FCC or the FTC killed this back in like 2012 or something and it's been nothing but an infringement jungle ever since.

What exactly is your personal interest in having laws that skew in favour of the rights of corporations rather than the rights of employees

 

[thiscatisfat]

thats different, thats a state entity, apple is not a state agency nor its enforcement agency.

Of course it's different, I know that, but they do have their investigations into their employees. You would be surprised what they think they can and can't do. Remember the stories with Retail employees having their stuff searched daily? It only gets worse from there.

 

[nikon1]

“Ethics … Ethics … what are these Ethics that you speak of?”

 

[nathansz]

crazy that they aren’t seeking jail time. you have to assume Snap has already analyzed the stolen data. returning it doesn’t solve the problem. he stole IP

You don’t know that snap has seen anything

As far as jail time goes, they obviously realize that’s just not going to happen, unlike the coliseum mob here looking for meat for the lions

 

[nathansz]

regardless of sector. If you take information and materials from one employer to the next, even if you were the person responsible for the code/design/whatever, it's theft.

Nope

 

[turbineseaplane]

You don’t know that snap has seen anything

As far as jail time goes, they obviously realize that’s just not going to happen, unlike the coliseum mob here looking for meat for the lions

Made me think of this image from Gladiator...

A "thirsty" mob

 

[nathansz]

Are you serious? Do you expect him to get a slap on the wrist for what he did? Dude didn't take a few Apple tshirts with him when he left the company, he stole company secrets about one of their projects.

Perhaps he was simply keeping a personal archive of his own work

 

[nathansz]

Employees hired in key positions can be required to sign non-compete agreements to prevent them from jumping to a competitor right away without the employers consent. Those grandfathered in could also be incentivized with a bonus if they agree to sign an agreement. The noncompete could require a separation of 6 months to 2 years before they’re allowed to sign with a competitor, or they could take any other job not directly related to their specialty right away.

However, in some jurisdictions, anything in an employment contract that contravenes local employment standards laws is unenforceable

 

[nfl46]

Perhaps he was simply keeping a personal archive of his own work

Lol. Ahh yep, that was it! This was all a misunderstanding.

 

[Dr Nobody Important]

which, if apple proves anything, will be the "unspecified financial damages"

It is a crime to steal property, therefore there are consequences of his theft that must be paid. And pay them he shall.

 

[forza1976]

He's going to enjoy jail!

His Linkedin profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/diliumec/

 

[nathansz]

Don't be so dramatic, no one thinks Apple should be able to lock him up.

You haven’t read this thread I guess

 

[pettit03]

What did he steal? The next Apple product that won’t launch?

 

[nathansz]

It is a crime to steal property, therefore there are consequences of his theft that must be paid. And pay them he shall.

Possibly

If a court finds that he has stolen any property

That hasn’t happened yet

 

[darngooddesign]

how does apple know what he did on his macbook unless they're spying on him?

Apple knows that a large amount of data was downloaded from their servers.

Apple knows that their data was downloaded to a computer that Apple owns and this guy uses.

Apple has Device Management software running on every computer they own.

This DM software allowed them to verify that data was downloaded and erased, with additional steps taken by him to disguise the unauthorized taking of Apple's data.

 

[tennisproha]

You don’t know that snap has seen anything

You don't know that they haven't

 

[nathansz]

He's going to enjoy jail!

His Linkedin profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/diliumec/

He’s not going to jail

Regardless, what point are you trying to make

I’m not seeing what in his profile there tells about his affinity for incarceration

 

[nathansz]

You don't know that they haven't

Yes, and

Why does that mean “I have to assume they have” as to you stated?

Doesn’t even make sense

 

[tennisproha]

Yes, and

Why does that mean “I have to assume they have” as to you stated?

Doesn’t even make sense

it means what it says...

 

[darngooddesign]

You haven’t read this thread I guess

People think he should be punished and probably locked up, but by the legal system not Apple.

I think you are misinterpreting statements.

 

[nathansz]

it means what it says...

your statements are non-sensical

 

[canadianreader]

According to the lawsuit, Liu informed Apple that he was leaving his position to focus on his health and spend more time with his family. However, Apple alleges that Liu had already accepted a job offer from Snap Inc., the parent company of Snapchat and maker of the "Spectacles" smart glasses.

If he's convicted he'll have plenty of time contemplating his stupid choices in life

 

[ilikewhey]

It is a crime to steal property, therefore there are consequences of his theft that must be paid. And pay them he shall.

sure, california penal code 487 capped max value for grand theft at 950 usd, first time offender is considered a misdemeanor. that is if the state prosecutor even bother prosecuting this as its almost the same level as stealing an iphone.