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They probably extended the window. Which would be a relief. I was stressing out downloading all my 32 plugins before midnight on the 12th. 💀
Same here. I downloaded all motion projects and plug-ins etc. in my account, just in case. To hard to keep track of what was being discontinued vs still available after the 12th for download, since the discontinue page was separate from where you could download. So I just did it all, minus the large assets which I had saved and burned to Blu-ray when I first purchased them each.

I saved the discontinued page since it listed every MotionVFX product being discontinued. Wow, that was a very long list.
 
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If you are a recent user and only subscribed, you don't know about it. Long term users know.

I was referencing my earlier post in this thread where they dumped all us perpetual license holders and buyers for FCP only. Without warning. They shut down the store, except for DVR and Adobe, without warning and then proceeded to delete a lot of their products including over 1000 Motion Project templates, some of which I wanted to purchase and had plans for future projects etc.

I found out by accident by refreshing their site and then received an email. I had just a few weeks before I wouldn't even be able to download my previous purchases before they were deleted. They are now gone for good and the subscription doesn't have any of them either. Completely gone, except for those who purchased a copy before this all went down and saved it.

It was the most anti-consumer behaviour I have experienced in a long time and it stung hard.
yeah it was about 100 years ago, right?
 
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When AppleVFX premium launches...


YARN | Price of the brick going up. | The Wire (2002) Drama ...
WAY UP
 
Again, Apple has a solid history of buying out companies like this, killing off their products, and minimally using the tech in some of their vaguely associated apps. We were lied to about mO3 I guess. Good buy MotionVFX, hello nothing in return. It's the HISTORY Apple has proven itself on. The products we paid so much for are about to be gone. Mark my worlds. Prove me wrong.
 
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Soon to be available only through subscription.

Some of them are currently only available through subscription.

I stopped using MotionVFX when they put mFlare2 - which previously sold $150 for a perpetual fee behind a subscription that cost $300+ a year. They could have kept selling it individually, but they bundled it and then that was the only way to access it. They tried to justify it by saying that I would get all the other stuff in the bundle, but it was stuff that I didn't want, didn't need and wouldn't use.

I don't mind a subscription model, if there is a single purchase alternative. Generally the subscription should provide access to everything to make the one-off fee look like bad value. Like buying a movie on Blu-Ray vs a Netflix subscription - one clearly offers a lot more value. But Motion VFX bundles only included a handful of plugins. All of the other plugins, templates and effects packs were available for individual purchase.

It was just a really bad move. I hope Apple fixes this. I also hope that this is the start of integration between FCP/Motion/Compressor. They can still offer separate apps, but would be great to have a tabbed workflow like Davinci Resolve.
 
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Awesome!! If they make the motionVFX stuff available through Creator Studio, I could drop my two very expensive mVFX CineStudio and DesignStudio subscriptions. Heck yeah!!! Someone above mentioned Native Instruments... would love Apple to acquire them as well
Really? What about tomorrow? Based on Apple's historical record, nope...
I just worry about today..tomorrow has its own problems.
 
Awesome!! If they make the motionVFX stuff available through Creator Studio, I could drop my two very expensive mVFX CineStudio and DesignStudio subscriptions. Heck yeah!!! Someone above mentioned Native Instruments... would love Apple to acquire them as well.

The MVFX subscriptions were the worst value in the industry. $29/month for design, $29/month for cine, or 'Ultimate' which is both combined for $69/month.

Nothing like paying $11/month more to get a combined bundle that is cheaper individually.

Not to mention that if you just want one pluigin - like mFlare2, you need to pay $300+ a year, instead of the $150 perpetual license they previously sold it for.
 
Loved MotionVFX. Spent over $2k on their great plugins. I say “loved” because they recently moved to subscription only service and no longer sell plugins individually. And I’m guessing this news of Apple acquiring the company was the reason why they gave existing users the date of last Thursday to download everything they bought before it would be removed.

So this is why they treated their loyal long term customers so badly this year and killed the store and our ability to purchase and got rid of all the motion templates I loved and wanted to purchase etc. Retired all the good stuff including over 1000 templates and on and on I could go. A lot of people and businesses are upset at them. People recently spent a lot of money there recently, only to have them discontinue them all.

Now we know why. They were no longer in business for themselves, they were being sold to Apple. Apple should let MotionVFX release, for free, all those templates etc. that MotionVFX trashed, that I guess Apple doesn't want. That would be the right thing to do for all of us that want them.

Edit: They have also privatized their Reddit r/motionVFX that customers were commenting in.

If you are a recent user and only subscribed, you don't know about it. Long term users know.

I was referencing my earlier post in this thread where they dumped all us perpetual license holders and buyers for FCP only. Without warning. They shut down the store, except for DVR and Adobe, without warning and then proceeded to delete a lot of their products including over 1000 Motion Project templates, some of which I wanted to purchase and had plans for future projects etc.

I found out by accident by refreshing their site and then received an email. I had just a few weeks before I wouldn't even be able to download my previous purchases before they were deleted. They are now gone for good and the subscription doesn't have any of them either. Completely gone, except for those who purchased a copy before this all went down and saved it.

It was the most anti-consumer behaviour I have experienced in a long time and it stung hard.
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Jumping on this train too… these people went from “I love them can’t get enough of all the plugins” to feeling downright scammed.
Started using FCP properly since 2019, and while trying to find parallels to some plugins I was used to in After Effects (like video copilot’s Element3D) naturally landed on the motionVFX webpage and their mO2 plugins.

In practice it never really worked properly, the “title” vs “generator” jankiness of FCP as the entry point to load a scene made it even harder, dealing with dropzones is so bad in general UX, it was full of tiny bugs, a generator could suddenly stop working on a project it would need to be reinserted again and started from scratch, etc… but the templates were so amazing from the get go and so professional that I decided to support them with my wallet.

All their plugins, templates and motion projects were of insane quality… their mFreezeFrames blew me away at the time for example. They did do a lot of custom plugin handling above and beyond what Motion could do out of the box, these guys went all in with the FxPlug SDK.
Sadly the nature of the UX of FCP’s inspector is incredibly limited when a somewhat remotely complex series of paremeters are needed… the scrollview becomes crowded, clicking on things can bug out sometimes, you can get beachballed intermittently somewhat often.
But it still worked, they made either workarounds (like for the 3D Tracker copy pasting of tracks) or we as users just dealt with what was offered without trying to customize out of the way too much.

I poured money on this, thousands of dollars, probably $5K plus, don’t even want to backtrack to check. Had almost all the mO2 suite, tons of the plugins and templates, the puppet thingy, the freeze frame ones, the clean or dynamic or “quake” intro/outros, the cinematic titles, the movie titles, mFlares, mFilmLook, LUT packs, typography packs, lower 3rds, glitch plugins, cyberpunk plugins, the tracker 3D plugins and packs. All sorts of effects and transitions too; their zoom transitions are chef’s kiss and so were the timelines starting points…

Then suddenly an eerie mood starts settling in… their promise to make mO2 be upgraded to apple silicon and FxPlug 4 starts to fade away (it only runs on old versions of FCP through Rosetta 2), they start focusing on this design studio subscription thing, and pushing for it annoyingly. Many of the plugins can’t be bought anymore or the updates (promised to be forever before) have been left frozen in time, the enhanced versions only available through the subscription services. Finding a way to buy a plugin is cumbersome now as everyone defaults to the subscription thing or they are just disappearing or they won’t be updated.

Heck at the beginning of this year I bought a few plugins but a duplicate squeezed by mistake (my mistake)… I ask for the possibility of a refund, they nicely agree, but insist on getting “mCredits”. mCredits never expire, can be used on anything, even can stack with sales discounts and all the said.
5 days later, I receive an email that I have to use mCredits because the things are expiring… really…
Then 4 weeks later that I have to download my plugins because many of them are being binned (this means they could stop working at anytime with the next FCP upgrade that brings breaking changes). They also mentioned to download the installer for them which I ever found, just went through mInstaller and hoping for the best.

And now today this, which I think it could be amazing news in general, but this last year has been problematic with this company… it’s as if something suddenly happened, suffered a sudden personality shift and started doing strange and aggressive anti consumer takes.

What’s going to happen with all this investment? Probably it will go to waste during the next couple of years… and probably I’ll be paying for some of them AGAIN in the form of a subscription tier of some sort.

And fine, I can bite the bullet, that investment has paid itself back many many times fold… I just hope that it gets back on track under Apple and, as a long shot, that somehow they manage to recognize the previous customers and their available library of products.
I’ll be keeping a serious close eye on this.
 
Again, Apple has a solid history of buying out companies like this, killing off their products, and minimally using the tech in some of their vaguely associated apps. We were lied to about mO3 I guess. Good buy MotionVFX, hello nothing in return. It's the HISTORY Apple has proven itself on. The products we paid so much for are about to be gone. Mark my worlds. Prove me wrong.

Not always, they bought Camel Audio and offered Alchemy and their other plugins for free within Logic.
 
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Good to know. Maybe Final Cut Pro will have extra features in the future that are available only as a part of subscription.
 
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I don't mind a subscription model, if there is a single purchase alternative.
I agree. Imagine every product you use requires a subscription. You'd have so many people in your pockets you couldn't keep track of it all. I feel ike there should be a law where there MUST be a perpetual (buyout) licence that can't be more than x times the yearly rate.
 
[The plugins] could stop working at anytime with the next FCP upgrade that brings breaking changes.

Holy crap. I didn’t even think of that. That could absolutely happen. And Apple might even intentionally do upgrades to FCP that deliberately make those plugins non-workable anymore. So messed up.

For all the long term users of MotionVFX, including @MacHeritage, I do gotta say I noticed something was off back in November when they did their “Last Ever Black Friday Plugin Promo.” The “Last Ever” had me thinking they were going to remove everything, which they pretty much did. 💀
 
Holy crap. I didn’t even think of that. That could absolutely happen. And Apple might even intentionally do upgrades to FCP that deliberately make those plugins non-workable anymore. So messed up.

For all the long term users of MotionVFX, including @MacHeritage, I do gotta say I noticed something was off back in November when they did their “Last Ever Black Friday Plugin Promo.” The “Last Ever” had me thinking they were going to remove everything, which they pretty much did. 💀
Plug-in's are always volatile ever since the big FCPX change that broke most plug-ins several years ago but I don't think Apple is going to do anything that big for a long while. The ecosystem is still recovering.
I always have older versions of FCP for this reason though. Example: mObject I need for older projects and there is still no modern update for that one anyway. mFlare is another example, that they said they would make available as a perpetual license for older users but I missed the opportunity by a few days before the cut off, by the time I found out.

But templates, lower-thirds etc. seem to always work and can be fixed and customized in Motion if something is not working correctly.

Yes, that sale made me a little uneasy but shrugged it off as marketing at the time. Boy, was I wrong about that. Sometimes, messages from companies are not just marketing at all.
 
Plug-in's are always volatile ever since the big FCPX change that broke most plug-ins several years ago but I don't think Apple is going to do anything that big for a long while. The ecosystem is still recovering.
I always have older versions of FCP for this reason though. Example: mObject I need for older projects and there is still no modern update for that one anyway. mFlare is another example, that they said they would make available as a perpetual license for older users but I missed the opportunity by a few days before the cut off, by the time I found out.

But templates, lower-thirds etc. seem to always work and can be fixed and customized in Motion if something is not working correctly.

Yes, that sale made me a little uneasy but shrugged it off as marketing at the time. Boy, was I wrong about that. Sometimes, messages from companies are not just marketing at all.
Probably work for a few more FCP versions and then end. Better to keep the FCP versions that work (backup). Learned the hard way when “just” updating FXP, Logic etc. without keeping the old version(s). Also, sometimes updating to the new OS will also cause older versions of FCP not to work.

It is what it is..
 
Sorry to hear for DaVinci Resolve users.
Welp, new opportunities for other developers to fill in the gap for missing plugins. 🙄
 
1 - MotionVFX's statement says they "joined" the Apple team. They do not used the terms acquisition or buy-out. Media outlets are using those terms without citing a source for those terms.

2 - Apple itself is not commenting on this at all.

Thus; what does " joining the Apple team" actually mean?
The word "joining" does not have the same definition as the word "acquisition".
 
1 - MotionVFX's statement says they "joined" the Apple team. They do not used the terms acquisition or buy-out. Media outlets are using those terms without citing a source for those terms.

2 - Apple itself is not commenting on this at all.

Thus; what does " joining the Apple team" actually mean?
The word "joining" does not have the same definition as the word "acquisition".
MotionVFX states: MotionVFX is becoming a part of Apple.

That says everything. If this was anything but an acquisition/buy-out, Apple would be saying a lot since MotionVFX would be lying etc. Apple doesn't talk a lot about their acquisitions, so they don't need to say anything, as usual.
 
If you are a recent user and only subscribed, you don't know about it. Long term users know.

I was referencing my earlier post in this thread where they dumped all us perpetual license holders and buyers for FCP only. Without warning. They shut down the store, except for DVR and Adobe, without warning and then proceeded to delete a lot of their products including over 1000 Motion Project templates, some of which I wanted to purchase and had plans for future projects etc.

I found out by accident by refreshing their site and then received an email. I had just a few weeks before I wouldn't even be able to download my previous purchases before they were deleted. They are now gone for good and the subscription doesn't have any of them either. Completely gone, except for those who purchased a copy before this all went down and saved it.

It was the most anti-consumer behaviour I have experienced in a long time and it stung hard.
If I’ve used mO2 (and I have), I’m not that new.
If you were planning to buy (any decade now), you didn’t get dumped because you were not an actual customer of that product. You can’t be dumped if you never even went on a date. They sent out a notice to download your purchases and save them. They clearly do not have to provide offsite backup forever just because I gave the $99.
 
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