Simple; iPhone users didn't have it available 4 years ago. The issue isn't who had it "first" but rather, who has it "now"...
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Simple; iPhone users didn't have it available 4 years ago. The issue isn't who had it "first" but rather, who has it "now"...
That's quick charging. Hopefully it won't be just as long or or marginal increase in charging time, otherwise 100 watts would only mean more devices only. I wonder how hot these things would get then. I'd imagine they'd burn ya fingers.
Are you new here? NOTHING is a viable solution until Apple rolls out their cut of it. Apple- and particularly Phil ridiculed bigger-screen phones while Apple clung to the "perfect" of 3.5" and then 4" (both sizes were THE "perfect" size while they were the sizes Apple chose to sell). Even Jobs has plenty of 'em: "who wants an iPod to play video?" and "any tablet smaller than 9.7 inches..." to reference just two.
Apple takes pokes at features it doesn't offer for sale (yet). Passionate Apple followers then run with Apple's stance ridiculing such features to no end at every possible opportunity.
At some point, Apple rolls out their version of the feature and all that anti-feature sentiment just evaporates as if we never felt that way... even if we wrote it down and posted it in public forums. Step back only a few months and you can read passionate posts of how "I will not buy a new iPhone without TouchID", "I will NOT buy an iPhone with that ugly notch", "I will not pay $1000 for a phone" and/or "4K is a gimmick that nobody can see. Nobody needs a 4KTV" Apple rolls those out and all such arguments fade quickly and/or cease. Step back further in time and there are a couple of YEARS of published ridicule of competitors offering features like bigger-screen phones (oh the fragmentation, pants with bigger pockets, man purses, etc), and many others. "I will not buy a Mac without Magsafe." "I will not buy a phone without a headphone jack" "I refuse to carry dongles." "I will not buy a Mac without <favored> port(s)." And on and on. Remember when iDevices having only 1GB of RAM made perfect sense because iOS was so "optimized & refined that it didn't need more than 1GB" and "who wants the battery burn that comes with more than 1GB RAM?". Did iOS become unoptimized & refined in the last few years? I've seen no such accusations against Apple now that mobile devices have expanded the RAM.
NFC was relentlessly ridiculed. Then Apple rolls out ApplePay and not only is it suddenly & immediately acceptable, but there are many calls to boycott buying at any store that will not let us pay that way.
We'll even fragment our Apple worship-like support over the SAME feature. For example, there was the day that Apple rolled out a new iPad with a Retina screen and a new iPad Mini without Retina. We made a very passionate case to each other why Retina was THE must-have reason to upgrade the iPad. Simultaneously, we made a very passionate case to each other why Retina was NOT important on the Mini screen... that it was must-upgrade for other reasons... until the next Mini when it rolled out WITH a Retina screen and that became THE main reason to upgrade. Apparently Retina on the Mini only did NOT make sense while Apple chose NOT to include it.
Same with front-facing iSight camera in the first generation iPad. Apple opted to leave it out for whatever reason (breakdowns revealed there was even a space for such a camera). "We" made very passionate cases for why an iPad should NOT have a front-facing camera: stability, "who wants to be looking up my nose?", video chat is not important in a mobile device, etc. The very next year Apple rolls out a new iPad with a front-facing "FaceTime" camera... which immediately became THE rally-cry reason to upgrade iPads: "OMG", "Now we can video chat with our iPads!!!", etc.
In a nutshell: business as usual. There's highly passionate arguments against everything NOT yet available in Apple products for sale now... until it is... which "magically" transforms such features into a "shut up and take my money" (often THE) must-have reason to upgrade. Wireless charging has been relentlessly ridiculed for years now in countless posts. But now that Apple offers the feature, we magically feel very different about it.
In all cases, some proceed if they never made any comment against such features. Some may offer some wishy-washy transitional comments: "...but when I got to see it in person" and/or "it's kind of growing on me" posts. And some go with the old "Apple is not first, but wait so that they get it right" spin (which of course, is only selectively applied when Apple is not rolling out something first).
What is your interest in MacRumors forums? You seem to greatly dislike apple, apple products and apple users.
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Nope, I have almost everything Apple sells. I just notice the extremists- both the lovers & the haters- and will poke a joke at the extremism when it presents itself. I do find it funny how our seemingly great passions about product features will so readily flip when they go from Apple not offering them to offering them... as if we don't really have our own opinions, instead just towing the company line... no matter what.
I like Apple just fine. I think they are fannnnnnnntastic in many ways and the world is better off with Apple Inc in it than if any of the "is doomed" prophecy from the other extremist group came to pass. But I'm certainly not a member of the "Apple is always right" or "Apple is always wrong" clubs... and simply post my own opinions- as an objective, individual consumer- without much concern of whether they are then judged pro or con by others. Hopefully, some others can get something out of them whether that be some help, some new knowledge or maybe a laugh or two.
My personal interest in the forums is the posts by those more objective who write what they really think rather than pretty much always max PRO or max CON on whatever Apple rolls out. Those in the middle- which sometimes seems like a slim minority- often offer the greatest insights/knowledge that are actually helpful to others IMO... certainly to me. The rest seem like just closet PR reps or rabid haters that like to stir up a hornet's nest.
I like Apple just fine. I think they are fannnnnnnntastic in many ways and the world is better off with Apple Inc in it than if any of the "is doomed" prophecy from the other extremist group came to pass. But I'm certainly not a member of the "Apple is always right" or "Apple is always wrong" clubs... and simply post my own opinions- as an objective, individual consumer- without much concern of whether they are then judged pro or con by others. Hopefully, some others can get something out of them whether that be some help, some new knowledge or maybe a laugh or two.
My personal interest in the forums is the posts by those more objective who write what they really think rather than pretty much always max PRO or max CON on whatever Apple rolls out. Those in the middle- which sometimes seems like a slim minority- often offer the greatest insights/knowledge that are actually helpful to others IMO... certainly to me. The rest seem like just closet PR reps or rabid haters that like to stir up a hornet's nest.
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Are you new here? NOTHING is a viable solution until Apple rolls out their cut of it. Apple- and particularly Phil ridiculed bigger-screen phones while Apple clung to the "perfect" of 3.5" and then 4" (both sizes were THE "perfect" size while they were the sizes Apple chose to sell). Even Jobs has plenty of 'em: "who wants an iPod to play video?" and "any tablet smaller than 9.7 inches..." to reference just two.
Apple takes pokes at features it doesn't offer for sale (yet). Passionate Apple followers then run with Apple's stance ridiculing such features to no end at every possible opportunity.
At some point, Apple rolls out their version of the feature and all that anti-feature sentiment just evaporates as if we never felt that way... even if we wrote it down and posted it in public forums. Step back only a few months and you can read passionate posts of how "I will not buy a new iPhone without TouchID", "I will NOT buy an iPhone with that ugly notch", "I will not pay $1000 for a phone" and/or "4K is a gimmick that nobody can see. Nobody needs a 4K
NFC was relentlessly ridiculed. Then Apple rolls out ApplePay and not only is it suddenly & immediately acceptable, but there are many calls to boycott buying at any store that will not let us pay that way.
We'll even fragment our Apple worship-like support over the SAME feature. For example, there was the day that Apple rolled out a new iPad with a Retina screen and a new iPad Mini without Retina. We made a very passionate case to each other why Retina was THE must-have reason to upgrade the iPad. Simultaneously, we made a very passionate case to each other why Retina was NOT important on the Mini screen... that it was must-upgrade for other reasons... until the next Mini when it rolled out WITH a Retina screen and that became THE main reason to upgrade. Apparently Retina on the Mini only did NOT make sense while Apple chose NOT to include it.
Same with front-facing iSight camera in the first generation iPad. Apple opted to leave it out for whatever reason (breakdowns revealed there was even a space for such a camera). "We" made very passionate cases for why an iPad should NOT have a front-facing camera: stability, "who wants to be looking up my nose?", video chat is not important in a mobile device, etc. The very next year Apple rolls out a new iPad with a front-facing "FaceTime" camera... which immediately became THE rally-cry reason to upgrade iPads: "OMG", "Now we can video chat with our iPads!!!", etc.
In a nutshell: business as usual. There's highly passionate arguments against everything NOT yet available in Apple products for sale now... until it is... which "magically" transforms such features into a "shut up and take my money" (often THE) must-have reason to upgrade. Wireless charging has been relentlessly ridiculed for years now in countless posts. But now that Apple offers the feature, we magically feel very different about it.
In all cases, some proceed if they never made any comment against such features. Some may offer some wishy-washy transitional comments: "...but when I got to see it in person" and/or "it's kind of growing on me" posts. And some go with the old "Apple is not first, but wait so that they get it right" spin (which of course, is only selectively applied when Apple is not rolling out something first).
Lol, no I am not new here. I am well aware and farmiliar with the rhetoric of the Apple user
It stems from jealousy, that the competition has it well before Apple users. While we deny the benefit initially, when Apple shows us it’s version it suddenly makes sense and now I cannot live without it. Forgetting any of our comments and feelings of yesteryear. It truly is quite entertaining to watch the drama unfold, hence I am a regular reader here. I am one who buys something if I have a requirement for, I do not reject any technology that a competitor brings to market, even though it may seem half baked, its that’s competitor interpretation of that technology for it’s vision. Somehow we believe Apple is the only one with vision and we hold other companies to that, even though there are many methods to complete the same task. Watch the naysayers saying that the iPad/Pro requires MacOS to be a usable computer, I can inform you that I have been using the iPad Pro since iOS 11, and I have no requirement for my MBP any longer. The last bit that I hope Apple incorporates into iOS 12 is native XCode, the A10X can handle it.
I do not want MacOS on the iPad, I would prefer iOS to support XCode natively. With the Smart Keyboard and Apple Pencil, this iPad Pro with iOS 11 is a pleasure to use. I have yet to hit a roadblock in my usage case. People who say it cannot replace a notebook and mainly type documents and emails for their “work” are hading into a review with bias, one has to learn to adapt a little and it will become second nature soon enough.
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I remember a number of patents by Apple relating to wireless charging solutions, what happened? Apple is the only who co-developed USB with Intel, developed FireWire, MagSafe, 30 pin connector, Lightening port, Thunderbolt port, the list goes on. They vision is a wireless and portable future, yet they can match or exceed the present Qi standard. I am all for adopting others standards, then why is Apple being stubborn and not adopting USB-C on its iOS hardware. I understand initially that USB-C was and may still be a mess with the variety of limitations and options that are available, similar to the MFi certification, Apple should approach the USB consortium and propose a MFusb certification that provides a set standard. Cost is a limitation with supporting all the USB-C supported options, and companies should be provided a no-fee licensing for up to three years to lower the cost for adoption. Until that happens USB-C will simply linger for the foreseeable future. What a shame and mess really?
Agree, I argued the same in another discussion:
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ou-need-to-know.2067509/page-17#post-25267261