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No, I'm more then sure it is pure utter coincidence, Apple would never have blindingly obvious security holes would they.
So you claim they have remained quiet due to the American holiday, yesterday, yet they felt the need to patch this security hole, over the American holiday..

I'm not sure what you're talking about. I never claimed anything.
 
A lot of misinformation, but here is the truth

A number of iCloud accounts were brute-forced through "Find My iPhone" using the iBrute script. Once the iCloud account password was found, the hackers downloaded the device backups from the accounts.

The backups gave the hackers access to all photos (whether on photostream or not). It also gave them access to all text messages, contacts, and notes. With this information they were able to target other celebrities.

Some of the photos were not taken on iPhones, because those pictures were sent by the celebrity to others through text messages/email and ended up on iPhones that were backed up to iCloud.

Some of the photos were from the boyfriend/husband's iCloud account and not the celebrity's. The boyfriend/husband either took the photos or were sent the photos by the celebrity.

(this info came from emails of the hacker that was posted on 4chan)
 
Good post and sums it up nicely.

A number of iCloud accounts were brute-forced through "Find My iPhone" using the iBrute script. Once the iCloud account password was found, the hackers downloaded the device backups from the accounts.

The backups gave the hackers access to all photos (whether on photostream or not). It also gave them access to all text messages, contacts, and notes. With this information they were able to target other celebrities.

Some of the photos were not taken on iPhones, because those pictures were sent by the celebrity to others through text messages/email and ended up on iPhones that were backed up to iCloud.

Some of the photos were from the boyfriend/husband's iCloud account and not the celebrity's. The boyfriend/husband either took the photos or were sent the photos by the celebrity.

(this info came from emails of the hacker that was posted on 4chan)
 
No you said "These celebrities used to 500 most common passwords, they are the one to be blamed."

The celebrities are not to be blamed. They are victims of a crime. Are you going to suggest otherwise?

Don't use a terribly weak password and then get pissed when your data gets compromised. Internet security & common sense 101.
 
A number of iCloud accounts were brute-forced through "Find My iPhone" using the iBrute script. Once the iCloud account password was found, the hackers downloaded the device backups from the accounts.

The backups gave the hackers access to all photos (whether on photostream or not). It also gave them access to all text messages, contacts, and notes. With this information they were able to target other celebrities.

Some of the photos were not taken on iPhones, because those pictures were sent by the celebrity to others through text messages/email and ended up on iPhones that were backed up to iCloud.

Some of the photos were from the boyfriend/husband's iCloud account and not the celebrity's. The boyfriend/husband either took the photos or were sent the photos by the celebrity.

(this info came from emails of the hacker that was posted on 4chan)

So this came from the hacker. How do we know they're telling the truth?
 
Huh? Exactly how does she know that? How does she know they weren't grabbed from use of wifi?
Because the assumption of any clear thinking person is....A person knows where they store sensitive stuff like that..
 
A number of iCloud accounts were brute-forced through "Find My iPhone" using the iBrute script. Once the iCloud account password was found, the hackers downloaded the device backups from the accounts.

The backups gave the hackers access to all photos (whether on photostream or not). It also gave them access to all text messages, contacts, and notes. With this information they were able to target other celebrities.

Some of the photos were not taken on iPhones, because those pictures were sent by the celebrity to others through text messages/email and ended up on iPhones that were backed up to iCloud.

Some of the photos were from the boyfriend/husband's iCloud account and not the celebrity's. The boyfriend/husband either took the photos or were sent the photos by the celebrity.

(this info came from emails of the hacker that was posted on 4chan)


That may be the truth but simply because that's a hacker's claim doesn't mean squat. The developer of the exploit says he's seen no evidence that his exploit was actually used. Of course, if we had to wait for facts, macrumors would cease to exist.
 
That may be the truth but simply because that's a hacker's claim doesn't mean squat. The developer of the exploit says he's seen no evidence that his exploit was actually used. Of course, if we had to wait for facts, macrumors would cease to exist.

Different people can find the same security hole at the different times. Is the developer stating that he has seen no evidence that his script have been used or that he has seen no evidence that someone has gaining access through the exploit (which is something he's unable to state)?

The collecting predates the publication of iBrute by at least weeks.
 
Because the assumption of any clear think person is....A person knows where they store sensitive stuff like that..


Clear thinking people don't make such stupid assumptions. The pics 1) were taken on a device, 2) by someone else, 3) others had access to the device, 4) they were on her computer, 5) and transmitted to the cloud by wifi, which was not necessarily secure. There are other means as well for someone to grab those pics.

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Different people can find the same security hole at the different times. Is the developer stating that he has seen no evidence that his script have been used or that he has seen no evidence that someone has gaining access through the exploit (which is something he's unable to state)?

The collecting predates the publication of iBrute by at least weeks.


He's just saying no proof yet, which is what others should be waiting for.
 
So this came from the hacker. How do we know they're telling the truth?

It was posted as email screenshots by other hackers who had email conversations with the hacker (before and after the photos were released).

The accounts were allegedly hacked weeks ago, and the photos had been circulating within hacker community for some time before they found their way onto 4chan

It may be completely fabricated, but it is the most plausible explanation I have heard so far. The iBrute and "Find My iPhone" vulnerability are well documented as being real.
 
That may be the truth but simply because that's a hacker's claim doesn't mean squat. The developer of the exploit says he's seen no evidence that his exploit was actually used. Of course, if we had to wait for facts, macrumors would cease to exist.

How would the developer know? He just wrote a script.

Apple may know when they see an iCloud account has had thousands of failed login attempts.
 
Clear thinking people don't make such stupid assumptions. The pics 1) were taken on a device, 2) by someone else, 3) others had access to the device, 4) they were on her computer, 5) and transmitted to the cloud by wifi, which was not necessarily secure. There are other means as well for someone to grab those pics.

I'm going with she knows where she put it...I wouldn't presume she is an idiot.
 
Don't use a terribly weak password and then get pissed when your data gets compromised. Internet security & common sense 101.


Seriously, crap like this needs to stop. These people trusted the security of their services because these companies *want* us to trust the security of their services. They are victims and should not be blamed.

I am as big an Apple fan as anyone but if the hackers used brute force to get into these accounts then they should be shamed and they need to make changes, fast. For their sake I hope that it wasn't just iCloud because that's a very dark cloud going into next week's keynote.
 
So you want to blame the victim.

There's plenty of blame to go around but to pretend like these people are blameless is foolish. Fact is this wouldn't have happened if they used a secure password.

Using a weak password to secure your data in this day and age is like playing with matches and gasoline. Don't be surprised when you get burned.
 
There's plenty of blame to go around but to pretend like these people are blameless is foolish. Fact is this wouldn't have happened if they used a secure password.

Using a weak password to secure your data in this day and age is like playing with matches and gasoline. Don't be surprised when you get burned.

Ok - so you do want to blame the victim.

Poor analogy. Playing with fire and gasoline is causing harm to yourself. Perhaps you should look at this as someone pouring gasoline on you and lighting a match just because you happened to walk by without wearing flame retardant suit.
 
You leave your wallet with money in it, on your kitchen table in your own home...lock the door and then leave...someone breaks in and takes your wallet..who is at fault? Can't blame the victims,
 
Ok - so you do want to blame the victim.

Poor analogy. Playing with fire and gasoline is causing harm to yourself. Perhaps you should look at this as someone pouring gasoline on you and lighting a match just because you happened to walk by without wearing flame retardant suit.

Whatever. You want to pretend like the people have no blame whatsoever and that's just not true. Playing with fire and gasoline is causing harm to yourself, yes. So is using a weak password to secure personal data. Data breaches are all over the news almost daily. If people still can't learn to use a secure password then, yes, they are partly to blame. Or is personal responsibility just a thing of the past?


Hopefully the best thing to come out of this breach is that it will wake the masses up and they'll realize they should start using real secure passwords if they care about the integrity and security of their data.

You leave your wallet with money in it, on your kitchen table in your own home...lock the door and then leave...someone breaks in and takes your wallet..who is at fault? Can't blame the victims,

Except in this case they pretty much left the door unlocked.
 
A number of iCloud accounts were brute-forced through "Find My iPhone" using the iBrute script. Once the iCloud account password was found, the hackers downloaded the device backups from the accounts.

The backups gave the hackers access to all photos (whether on photostream or not). It also gave them access to all text messages, contacts, and notes. With this information they were able to target other celebrities.

Some of the photos were not taken on iPhones, because those pictures were sent by the celebrity to others through text messages/email and ended up on iPhones that were backed up to iCloud.

Some of the photos were from the boyfriend/husband's iCloud account and not the celebrity's. The boyfriend/husband either took the photos or were sent the photos by the celebrity.

(this info came from emails of the hacker that was posted on 4chan)


And yet, the photos did not originate on 4chan rather a celebrity photo trading site (AnonIB) where the photos were collected over long periods of time from several sources.

But lets not let facts get in our way.
 
I'm not sure what you're talking about. I never claimed anything.

Don't try to back track now just because their is evidence pointing at Apple being at fault.

Let's see Kirsten Dunst has clearly blamed iCloud, Apple is known to have released a security patch over the American holiday weekend, which fixes the hole these hackers claim they breached, yet people on here STILL refuse to see this as anything Apple has done, or that the photos came from iCloud accounts.

Right..
 
Clear thinking people don't make such stupid assumptions. The pics 1) were taken on a device, 2) by someone else, 3) others had access to the device, 4) they were on her computer, 5) and transmitted to the cloud by wifi, which was not necessarily secure. There are other means as well for someone to grab those pics.

I'm going with she knows where she put it...I wouldn't presume she is an idiot.




She knows where she put [them], but she (and obviously you) are completely ignoring where else the photos have been stored and how she got them to iCloud. And, I never said she was an idiot, just that people who ignore all the other possibilities really aren't very clear thinking.

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Don't try to back track now just because their is evidence pointing at Apple being at fault.

Let's see Kirsten Dunst has clearly blamed iCloud, Apple is known to have released a security patch over the American holiday weekend, which fixes the hole these hackers claim they breached, yet people on here STILL refuse to see this as anything Apple has done, or that the photos came from iCloud accounts.

Right..

No, but many people wait until the actual facts come in before assigning blame and jumping to conclusions.
 
Whatever. You want to pretend like the people have no blame whatsoever and that's just not true. Playing with fire and gasoline is causing harm to yourself, yes. So is using a weak password to secure personal data. Data breaches are all over the news almost daily. If people still can't learn to use a secure password then, yes, they are partly to blame. Or is personal responsibility just a thing of the past?


Hopefully the best thing to come out of this breach is that it will wake the masses up and they'll realize they should start using real secure passwords if they care about the integrity and security of their data.



Except in this case they pretty much left the door unlocked.

Trespassing is still a crime.

And nothing is completely secure. So no matter what happens in the future - even with passwords being uber creative and 'secure" - there will always be victims.

I don't believe blaming victims is the right 'angle" here. Especially since they were completely exploited. And in hopes of making money off of their private documents.

This is not just a security issue. Go read this blog entry to better understand why you shouldn't be blaming the victim.

http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-an...otos-of-jennifer-lawrence-20140901-3eo6s.html
 
So one of the victims of the attack blaming Apples service is not 'factual' enough for you now? What is, Tim Cook stating it? :rolleyes:


Did you run into a door or something? No, the victim of a photo grab, who has no idea how the photos actually were obtained, blaming the deepest pocket in the room, is not factually enough for me. YMMV.
 
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