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Apple Addresses Alleged Throttling of iPhones With Degraded Batteries
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People have legit been saying this for years. Has nothing to do with the recent story tbh
No because product quality is defined by one anonymous poster on the internet.Right, because higher margins + amount sold = product quality
I didn't want to upgrade - there were no new hardware features that my wife wanted on her phone. We tried doing a fresh install and the performance still sucked. We thought maybe it was thinking the phone used to work a lot better. We didn't think there was anything else we could do after we did a fresh install. We knew the battery was old, but we didn't care about it since we always have access to plug in. So if you think that is us _wanting_ to get a new phone, then I don't even know what to say. They degraded the phone to the point that it wasn't usable.
Consider this though: You are not allowed to downgrade the OS once you’ve gone up. Apple can cite security concerns all they want, but the fact is they could keep older OSs in their final version optimised for several years if they chose to. Their strategy is blatantly part of planned obsolescence.
I don't think Apple designed their phones to exceed power envelopes back then. The CPU didn't draw that much power all at once. The newer chips are able to draw power that exceeds the power supply in bursts that actually shut the system down.
Well you could always post your details, not that we care but feel free..
Not if you had the phone plugged in and needed to run an app that used a lot of CPU. The problem continues even when plugged in. So basically you can't run apps that could run before Apple flipped the switch on your phone to make it run degraded/unusuable mode.That is still 55% more than if it switched off. I know what I would prefer
I had a truck that did exactly that if all coolant was lost. I could care less for reduced performance for safety of the truck keeping going.
One possibility: peak current draw wasn’t large enough in older generation A-series to cause battery voltage to sag to undesirable levels. Just a guess.
I do understand what you are saying.
BUT.. Without this patch, the iPhone would have spontaneously rebooted or shut down. I would argue that a slow phone is better than dead phone.
HOWEVER, I what I would really rather see is a warning message like this when I try to open such apps: "This iPhone's battery has been degraded and you may experience decreased performance."
If that is what you use your phone for; high cpu charger connected applications than yes for that particular use case agreed.
Can’t help but think that anyone making calls, sending text messages, reading emails, browsing a website or posting on Facebook will notice any difference at all.
So this could possibly all be solved if Apple gave the iPhones bigger batteries. Not an engineer so I don't know if that's how it works.
Point is not to reward the users. Shows the company that there is a real price to pay for fraud.
Some ad-Homs are always a great way to liven up an otherwise dull topic. Great job.
I think this has been happening to the plus models too right? So bigger batteries wouldn't solve it?
yes, bigger battery ( not necessarily bigger in size, just larger capacity) = more stored energy
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my air 2 is 3 years old, no issues. runs at same CPU speed as it did the day I bought it. Original battery.
CPUs don't degrade over time the way car powertrains do. But if you lost half your car power in the first year, you'd certainly have a valid complaint.
And at least you'd know why your car lost power.
How is Apple telling people their battery is healthy while also throttling? They make no indication of battery health.
a simple visit to apple store and they test battery, then say it is fine and does not need replaced.
Here's my perspective on this: why did my phone run for 2-3 days on my usual load (games, browser, messages, etc.) on 10.x (and earlier), but now with 11.2.1, I get much less than a day of use with the same app mix? The only thing that changed was the OS! :^(
No matter how much you slice and dice this, the reason Apple did not disclose this, or add a toggle switch with a full explanation (even if its implemented automatically) is to encourage users to buy a new iPhone.
The technical reasons are believable but the method reveals the motive and hence proves Apple is dishonest.
The technical reasons are believable but the method reveals the motive and hence proves Apple is dishonest.
Hence my original comment. I upgrade when I’m ready because a new phone offers something of value. Can’t really say I’ve had a phone slow down to the point it annoys me. I have two 5s from 2013 and they are running like a top in 11.2.5. So I don’t believe there is a grand scheme.
Almost every laptop already does this (vary CPU processor clock speed and nap time) based on room temperature and fan speed, etc.