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Does any company sell a product that doesn't degrade in some way over time? I'm sure Apple outlines what they can do in the EULA. But we don't read them. That's our fault as consumers for not being educated.

We don't have to read them - EULA have no validity in Europe...
 
Since you mentioned Jobs...you mean like providing cases for “antenna-gate”? Since you also mentioned visionary seems like this is a “visionary” stealth move. Cook has had 6 years to ruin Apple and the world is still waiting.

It's already ruined for many, set aside the cash mountain and what's left, "great pipeline products?"
 
Apple IS sabotaging older iPhones to make you buy new ones. I have my iPhone 5, the battery started to last like an hour. I got a new battery and basically I get 2 hours, replaced the battery a week later and again... 2 hours.

The people at the shop told me: Apple is doing that with older iPhones, you start to get random problems with hardware and the hardware itself is fine, it is created by the iOS. The same issue with the speaker, microphone, signal and touch screen... they start to show problems all of the sudden and then they are fine and 3 month later again...
did they replace it with an apple battery or?
 
maybe the design is faulty and this is how they fixed it. Maybe the newer batteries can't support the newer processors as long as the ones in the past did.
 
If you won't read your and Apple's legal obligation and agreement of such when you install, don't go complaining about the results of Apple exercising its rights under the self-same agreement you are too lazy to read.

Ok, trust is broken and we won’t buy. Microsoft or anyone will not help them this time. Their choice.
 
Just because you don't like what Apple said, that doesn't necessarily mean the paradigm is false. It simply means you don't like the response.

If you are trying to make the "fan boys" look foolish, make sure you aren't mirroring that which you appear to detest.

False paradigm of 2 choices is either let iPhone discharge faster with full speed or prolong battery life with speed cut.

There is a third option.

Allow people to pay to replace battery NO MATTER IF IT PASSES THEIR TEST OR NOT. But they don’t.

There is also a fourth option.

Allow user to choose battery over performance or vice versa. But they don’t.

People are too busy questioning and arguing over the false choices that Apple presents to them without questioning the very false paradigm those choices are created from.




There is also a fifth choice. Redesign the iPhone to include user replaceable batteries.

But ... but ... but ...

Gotcha. Again, a lot of you think this isn’t even a reasonable option because you have accepted the false paradigm that Apple Obviously doesn’t have replaceable batteries.



But they could....
 
Well, I decided to bite the bullet and call Apple about getting a battery replacement. It was a pretty cool procedure actually: I've never had Apple want to share my iPhone screen before (and so weird to see a mouse icon flitting around on the display). They did, and they had me run a diagnostic which the support person then reviewed. I had complained that the phone often shut down completely for no reason, and the amount of charge was all over the place. After looking at the diagnostics she said it was on the verge of just shutting down completely for good - the battery was that bad. So...after a complete backup, I'm heading to the Apple store to get it replaced. It's an iPhone 6+, and as it's off of AppleCare, the replacement will cost me $99 Canadian.
 
So no one noticed anything until someone started running Geekbench?
No, my wife and her friends that wouldn't know Geekbench from a hole in the ground have been complaining about cold weather performance and how slow their iP6+'s have become. At least now, thanks to other's digging, I know I can just get the battery replaced to solve the problem. Which is good, she has some kind of weird attachment to that phone and doesn't like it when I suggest an upgrade -shrug-
 
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Does any company sell a product that doesn't degrade in some way over time? I'm sure Apple outlines what they can do in the EULA. But we don't read them. That's our fault as consumers for not being educated.

How many other iPhone models have had systemic issues of shutting down unexpectedly when running on a degraded-capacity battery?
 
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I experienced this back in earlier iPhones. Things were fine..5-20% battery life remaining. I'd play a song or record a video and the phone would just shut down without any notice. I guess this was their answer to this.
 
Wait... let me get this straight. Everyone thinks this is an Apple ploy to make people upgrade to a newer iPhone. When what the feature does is slightly maybe unoticbly slow the phone down rather than turning itself off.

I don’t know, but I feel the turning off would far more effective at making people with old out of warranty phones upgrade.

Just a thought...
 
How many other iPhone models have had the issue of shutting down unexpectedly when running on a degraded-capacity battery?

I've never had an issue , owned iPhones since 2008. We have 4 iPhone users in the household, never an issue with shutdowns. We do live in a warm climate though.
 
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