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Doesn’t seem to be any real conspiracy as implied in other threads/blogs. My 6s did qualify for the battery replacement program and for that kudos to Apple.

Mine did too shortly after I got it.

The new battery isn’t great so now I have the battery case. 9hrs usage ftw!
 
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By the way, why didn’t Apple disclose this when people were blaming the slowdowns on updates?

They didn’t say ... oh - those aren’t us manipulating you to buy newer phones through our updates... it’s how we manage battery vs performance on degrades batteries.

Nope

Not a word. They gave people the technically correct but slightly evasive response that they do not purposefully slow down phones through their updates ..... because the slowdown mechanism was already there so they were technically telling the truth.
 
I wouldn't be surprised. Plenty of greedy consumers and lawyers looking for money they think they are entitled to just because.

In the UK we have 6 years:

Under UK consumer law, consumers may choose to have defective goods or goods which do not conform with the contract sale either repaired or replaced free of charge. If a repair or replacement is not possible, would impose a disproportionate burden on the seller, or could not be performed in a reasonable time and without significant inconvenience to the consumer, the consumer may choose either to have the price reduced or to withdraw from the contract by returning the product in exchange for a full refund.

If you pay £1000 for an average iPhone X then the following year it’s slow, I know I have the right to question Apple, so please don’t be silly by calling the consumers greedy. This will ensure companies are honest and transparent.
 
They’re working around the issue of the design of using undersized batteries. Everything works great when new but when in not ideal conditions (cold, age, etc) the battery cannot handle the demands of the system. Apple should increase the battery capacity in future designs so that there are extra margin of safety built in. This reminds me of the issue Microsoft has with the Surface Book where its charger cannot charge the laptop under full load. The only workaround is to throttle the system to not draw max power.
 
Wait... let me get this straight. Everyone thinks this is an Apple ploy to make people upgrade to a newer iPhone. When what the feature does is slightly maybe unoticbly slow the phone down rather than turning itself off.

I don’t know, but I feel the turning off would far more effective at making people with old out of warranty phones upgrade.
Well from the numbers being reported and anecdotal observation, the slowing is well beyond "slightly maybe unoticbly." Trying to slide that one by is a whole lot more preferable than being known as the company who's products simply stop functioning after a relatively short period of time, IMHO. As such, I can see their deference to the former rather than latter approach. No real skin off my nose, but as others have said, they should have been a lot more transparent about it.
 
This would be fine if there was a switch to toggle the power management (something I would like on macOS too). However, without a way to control this, I don't like it.
 
the worst part is that you cant just go to apple and pay $79 to replace the battery. they wont let you unless they think it's defective.

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. “I want to give you money to perform a service that’ll make me happy as a customer”

“NO”

Ok then
 
That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. “I want to give you money to perform a service that’ll make me happy as a customer”

“NO, BUY A NEW ONE.. AND APPLE CARE.. AND STOCKS”

Ok then

There..
 
Well from the numbers being reported and anecdotal observation, the slowing is well beyond "slightly maybe unoticbly." Trying to slide that one by is a whole lot more preferable than being known as the company who's products simply stop functioning after a relatively short period of time, IMHO. As such, I can see their deference to the former rather than latter approach. No real skin off my nose, but as others have said, they should have been a lot more transparent about it.

I like how this is stated.

I find it funny that anyone who isn't immediately bashing Apple gets called an Apple-apologist and gets bashed. Imo, they probably calculated it out - yeah, it would have been cool for them to just offer free battery replacements but profits are king. That and the shutdown issue was real REAL annoying (wife had it on her 6s+).

I just would REALLY hate to have my 8+, a year from now or less, have half the CPU cuz of a defective battery, and be told I couldn't get a new battery even if I was willing to pay for it. I hope Apple gets people's unhappiness over this and doesn't repeat it.
 
I would prefer that over a crippled phone
To be fair, if the phone would just randomly shut down just whenever basically (as that is basically what would be happening when it comes to this) in the middle of you doing something (perhaps important) or you just taking it out of your pocket to do something only to find it dead, is that really somehow preferable?

If the "crippling" is truly crippling then neither is really preferable. If it's more of throttling where it's not to a crippling level, then that would probably be at least a little better for many.

(That doesn't say anything about users knowing about this, or whether or not there might be some sort of defective batteries in play, or anything like that.)
 
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I like how this is stated.

I find it funny that anyone who isn't immediately bashing Apple gets called an Apple-apologist and gets bashed. Imo, they probably calculated it out - yeah, it would have been cool for them to just offer free battery replacements but profits are king. That and the shutdown issue was real REAL annoying (wife had it on her 6s+).

I just would REALLY hate to have my 8+, a year from now or less, have half the CPU cuz of a defective battery, and be told I couldn't get a new battery even if I was willing to pay for it. I hope Apple gets people's unhappiness over this and doesn't repeat it.
A year or less you would get a warranty repair. Over two years is where the crap-shoot is. I buy AC+ so I have two years of protection.
 
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This is bad business, and looks like that could be Apple’s VW-emissions moment. I sincerely hope it rids us of Cook, Schiller, Cue, and the whole incompetent lot who’s managing the company’s pipeline as if they’re coasting towards retirement.

Or, as the Verge said: "Come on, just make a slightly thicker iPhone with a bigger battery. We’ve all been asking for it anyway."
 
Wait... let me get this straight. Everyone thinks this is an Apple ploy to make people upgrade to a newer iPhone. When what the feature does is slightly maybe unoticbly slow the phone down rather than turning itself off.

I don’t know, but I feel the turning off would far more effective at making people with old out of warranty phones upgrade.

Just a thought...
There's certainly all of that as well.
 
Walks like a duck, quacks like a ....

Why not be fully transparent about the practice in the first place? How did Apple come to the conclusion that this information was unnecessary to share to consumers?


What’s more likely for the average user?

1)associating slowdown to battery degradation

OR

2)associating slowdown to an older model phone

Hmm..I wonder which choice makes Apple more money?

I guess what we don’t know won’t hurt us, right Apple?
 
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One of the solutions is to allow users to downgrade to the original iOS that the device came with. They let me do that with my MBP when I had to do a network install. It installed Mt Lion without issue. Yes it was lacking the security patches but that's my choice.
 
But not ruined for a great many more as evidenced by recent earnings calls, sales and revenues.
Replaced my battery on my 6plus yesterday. CPU running at 1400 Mhz most of the time... got the phone down to 32 degrees or so today (playing frisbee in the snow with friends) and the speed notched down to ~1200 Mhz. I think the throttling is only noticable with the battery that is perenially providing lower than ideal voltage... The older the phone and battery and the colder the battery, the more noticeable and persistent the throttling will be. I think it should have been shared with the consumer. In general, people are getting a little over the top with their inflammatory statements... the point is the logic has been implemented for phones over a year old.... not that it is doing that... I have a friend who bought his 6 at the same time as me and isn't as heavy a user.... his phone was running at a much higher Mhz than mine (~1150)... where mine was 600-900 consistently... it's all about charge cycles... and we are both into our third year with these phones. I think conservatively mine has seen almost a thousand charge cycles.
 
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I see what they’re doing, but I’d rather get maximum performance and run the phone into the ground, then upgrade.

Anyway, at least this proves that it’s not planned obsolescence, they’re actually trying to extend your phone’s life so it’s the opposite.
 
This is bad business, and looks like that could be Apple’s VW-emissions moment. I sincerely hope it rids us of Cook, Schiller, Cue, and the whole incompetent lot who’s managing the company’s pipeline as if they’re coasting towards retirement.

Or, as the Verge said: "Come on, just make a slightly thicker iPhone with a bigger battery. We’ve all been asking for it anyway."
It’s not VW as there is no regulations about varying the cpu speed based on battery conditions. Cook and the remainder of the mgmt. team aren’t going anywhere.
 
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Not going to spend a grand and have this happen again in exactly two years. This is bulldicky! People with affected 6’s and 6S’s should be rebated! I’ve already sprung for a battery when it was 1.5 years old and I always utilize battery saving strategies. Bulldicky, I tell ya!
 
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