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Is the pricing a joke? Is Apple really getting this smug?

I configured a Mini ITX tiny case (Thermaltake Core V1) with Core i7 6700K + MSI Mini ITX mobo + GTX 970 + Samsung 960 Pro + 32 GB DDR4 4000Mhz RAM + Modular PSU + Dell 24" 4K monitor for under $1500. Installed Sierra on it using few usb3 and nvidia tweaks in clover.
Done.
This hackintosh literally screams and tears apart any crap Apple has dished out in the last few years.

What is wrong Apple?

Email that to Phil "Shill"er and Tim Cook plz! ;)
 
sometimes i wish i was living in the USA, just so i could enjoy the low dollar value on apple products, avoid import tax of 300 to 700 price difference, and actually have products showing up on the refurb pages.

all we get are like 4 ipads, ... mini ... from 3 years ago.

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They really just don't see the mac as a growth sector anymore, they are just banking on the loyal fan base to pay outrageous margins for inferior hardware.

I love my MBA, but I refuse to buy another mac until I see a value for my dollar. Having iMessage on my desktop isn't worth 2k.
True. But how do they expect developers to develop next gen games and apps on these crap MBPs or iMacs with Intel Iris graphics?

iPad and iPhone apps are not going to develop themselves on mobiles or tablets.
 
True. But how do they expect developers to develop next gen games and apps on these crap MBPs or iMacs with Intel Iris graphics?

iPad and iPhone apps are not going to develop themselves on mobiles or tablets.

iPad pros . As silly as it sounds , that is what they expect , not cause it's easy to do and the right tool, but cause they are more profitable . Profit first and foremost, second comes use ability. Used to be the other way around, build a great device and add a price . Now it's remove as much as possible and create revenue streams out of it.
 
For those not interested in snark, the refurbs aren't a bad deal. They are nearly as good as new and come with a full warranty. I bought a refurb MacBook Air a few years ago and had no issues with it whatsoever.

The issue isn't whether the refurb store sells quality products; they do. The issue is the price of an underpowered, old tech computer for a really high premium price.
 
The issue isn't whether the refurb store sells quality products; they do. The issue is the price of an underpowered, old tech computer for a really high premium price.

That doesn't stop the MacBook from being A great machine that is capable of handling a lot of productive tasks for personal or work. I know the argument is made about less ports and dated technology, but its still depends on what you're using the MacBook for and how you're using it to make a judgment call based on "Underpowered. "

And the benefits for a refurbished model, is that Apple has a very stringent process where they go through and test the MacBook on all levels to ensure it sufficiently running. And a lot of retrospect, it's far less likely have any more issues than what a new model would have out of the box From the factory.
 
One advantage of the non-touchbar model is the changable SSD, if I was looking for a new machine and needed something better than the MB then I'd probably go for this one. It should probably be a higher end MAcBook air though rather than called pro.
 
13 inch, no touch bar, dual core, no dedicated graphics, refurbished.

2k$.

Seems a bit steep.
100% agree. Honestly when will Apple realise they're selling commodity computers not silicone dreams sprinkled with pixie-dust. Now people will say "masOS is the best and I couldn't possibly lower myself to the general masses level and slum it with Windows" but come on, it's a tool and these days I feel Apple is selling jewel-encrusted hammers.
 
True. But how do they expect developers to develop next gen games and apps on these crap MBPs or iMacs with Intel Iris graphics?

iPad and iPhone apps are not going to develop themselves on mobiles or tablets.

To be fair, the current Macs are more than fine to develop apps on.

It is very sad to see Apple abuse the mac line like it has. Mac Pro being the saddest one, almost 3 years now. Crickets.

Hoping there is an event this year with refreshes across the board. If Apple doesn't want to compete with high end PC's on price the least than can do is keep up to current specs for those people loyal to the platform.
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iPad pros . As silly as it sounds , that is what they expect , not cause it's easy to do and the right tool, but cause they are more profitable . Profit first and foremost, second comes use ability. Used to be the other way around, build a great device and add a price . Now it's remove as much as possible and create revenue streams out of it.
iPad Pro doesn't even have Xcode
 
100% agree. Honestly when will Apple realise they're selling commodity computers not silicone dreams sprinkled with pixie-dust. Now people will say "masOS is the best and I couldn't possibly lower myself to the general masses level and slum it with Windows" but come on, it's a tool and these days I feel Apple is selling jewel-encrusted hammers.

Apples problem is that macOS is neglected as well. If you talk stable software....it's a draw between my macOS and windows 10 install tons . And that means I get so many more spiny beach balls these days. Maybe this year my macs will wake from sleep without issues ...
 
Is the pricing a joke? Is Apple really getting this smug?

I configured a Mini ITX tiny case (Thermaltake Core V1) with Core i7 6700K + MSI Mini ITX mobo + GTX 970 + Samsung 960 Pro + 32 GB DDR4 4000Mhz RAM + Modular PSU + Dell 24" 4K monitor for under $1500. Installed Sierra on it using few usb3 and nvidia tweaks in clover.
Done.
This hackintosh literally screams and tears apart any crap Apple has dished out in the last few years.

What is wrong Apple?

Alright, now just charge up your desktop, unplug it and work somewhere else for 20 minutes.

These are different types of machines and while they are expensive, this isn't a fair comparison of price and performance.
 
Spectacularly expensive. Spectacularly crap.
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Apples problem is that macOS is neglected as well. If you talk stable software....it's a draw between my macOS and windows 10 install tons . And that means I get so many more spiny beach balls these days. Maybe this year my macs will wake from sleep without issues ...

Yes, macOS was the one trump card the Mac had left but it's been eroded in quality and stability the past few years as it's become an afterthought, a poor cousin to iOS. I long for the days when it was the best desktop, the best GUI, the best UNIX, the best everything.
 
Horrible discount for 2016 model.....Best Buy and other stores sell it brand new for significantly cheaper all the time. The 2016 non-TB model goes on sell for $1,250 all the time. Crap...its still $100 off right now at Best Buy brand new and can buy a Best Buy open box for even cheaper.

Really was looking at buying this new MBP but just waiting longer. Not worth it, even at the big discounted prices.
 
Kaby Lake MacBooks and MacBook Pros need a significant price-cut if they will again skip on the dedicated GPU. As good as iGPUs are getting, they're not quite where they need to be to replace even a lower-end dGPU.
 
No touch bar is a benefit.
why?

used it in an apple store and its incredibly useful. If i could justify replacing my 2012 retina i'd buy in in a heartbeat. Lack of max-ram, max-cpu is what is holding me back, since I'd basically be upgrading nothing (already have max 2012 CPU and max ram - 16GB). but touchbar is wonderful, and with pro-apps it works incredibly well...

I thought it was a stupid gimmick until I took 30minutes to actually fidge around with it.

If this was the replacement MBA at the MBA price it would still be pricey, but doable. Not under any circumstances at this price.
no, replacement MBA is the 12" MacBook.
 
Does anyone else feel that the USB-C looks like an ugly little plastic thing that does not belong into the sleek aluminium body, or is it just me?
 
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