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This article makes it seem like Apple will market the rumored "4S" as simply the "4," and release the new iPhone 5 alongside it.
 
Apple will release the following.

iPhone 4S (8GB only, A5, camera bump, non-glass back, other cheaper materials): $99 on contract. Will be single design 3G+ multi-carrier handset using new CDMA/GSM Qualcomm chipset allowing single device for all carriers.

iPhone 5 (16, 32 and 64GB, A5, 8MP cam, larger screen, tapered design with similar shape back as has been reported, larger home button supporting gestures.) Battery life will be somewhat similar but possibly improved due to use of A5 processor. Will be single design 3G+ multi-carrier handset using new CDMA/GSM Qualcomm chipset allowing single device for all carriers.
 
The title of the event is "Let's talk iPhone". They are obviously going to be discussing a new phone a LOT more than just an operating system for the phone. As such, this will be more than just a minor update. The 1 likely means there will be just 1 phone introduced - the iPhone 5. The rumored 4S if there is one will be will likely be just tweaks to the current iPhone 4.
 
I think Apple will indeed have a completely new iphone to wow the world with, (as well as the mid priced 4s).
With all the great new phones just coming out, and the GalaxySll finally in the states, there is no way Apple is going to spend 16 months to unvail a cheaper version of the 4, (makes zero sense).

That said, I have been an att/iphone customer for 3yrs, but will be racing off to the att store on Sunday morning to pick up a new GalaxySll. I will spend 28 of my 30 days checking it out, and then will bring it back/cancel the new 2yr contract, and reactivate my old 3g. I will then return to the store the following week, grab the new iphone, sign new contract, and see how it is. I have 30 days to like it more than the Galaxy, or IT will go back, and I grab another new galaxySll, and stick with it.
Make use of your 30 days people, BEFORE u sign a new two year committment!
 
It will still need an "Nxx" number for the 4s replacement. My guess is there is only going to be one phone, the 5. The 4 will go to 8gb, and be sold at 99$. While the 5 will come with 32/64, and have A5/4" screen. Same ram, new os.

I'd like to think so, but I can't see them going from 8 to 32.

It's amazing how people ignore the N94.

Who's ignoring it? What about the N97?
 
I have two theories...

#1 - The "N94" is really the teardrop shape design that we have seen all of the cases for, but Apple simply put the iPhone 5 electronics in an iPhone 4 shell (minus the larger screen of course) for testing purposes. Any testing of the new case design was handled with armed guards and satellite jamming radar! :eek:

#2 - The new iPhone 5 will feature the same design as the iPhone 4, but the longer time between updates was to make sure iCloud and iOS 5 were working perfectly to avoid another MobileMe disaster.
 
Apple will release the following.

iPhone 4S (8GB only, A5, camera bump, non-glass back, other cheaper materials): $99 on contract. Will be single design 3G+ multi-carrier handset using new CDMA/GSM Qualcomm chipset allowing single device for all carriers.

iPhone 5 (16, 32 and 64GB, A5, 8MP cam, larger screen, tapered design with similar shape back as has been reported, larger home button supporting gestures.) Battery life will be somewhat similar but possibly improved due to use of A5 processor. Will be single design 3G+ multi-carrier handset using new CDMA/GSM Qualcomm chipset allowing single device for all carriers.
If the iPhone 4S and iPhone 5 are both released with the iPhone 4S being the low-end model, why would Apple put the Apple A5 in it? The Apple A5 is noted as being a massive chip making it expensive to produce. The Apple A4 is not a speed demon by today's standards, but I don't see it being a huge impediment for the low-end model. The production supply situation with the Apple A5 would also be tighter than the Apple A4.
 
This article makes it seem like Apple will market the rumored "4S" as simply the "4," and release the new iPhone 5 alongside it.

A few writers including legit sources at WSJ, have mentioned that the 4+/4S will be primarily sold/produced for asian markets.

The major NA/European carriers will all drop the 3GS, and simply have the 4 and 5 in both colors from launch. It makes a ton of sense and makes no sense to have more than 2 models on the market, particularly if they are going to do two colors and at least two levels of storage for each.
 
Did anyone else think that the 2x2 app design of the invite looked like it was meant for a square nano watch?? I think it would be a great additional device for the iPhone, with a bluetooth to the iPhone, so you could read texts - email - maybe even FaceTime with a camera on the nano. I'd buy that device in a second, and the market for the current nano is basically nonexistent, it would give the nano some meaning and marketshare among the upcoming next ten android watches.
 
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commander.data said:
Apple will release the following.

iPhone 4S (8GB only, A5, camera bump, non-glass back, other cheaper materials): $99 on contract. Will be single design 3G+ multi-carrier handset using new CDMA/GSM Qualcomm chipset allowing single device for all carriers.

iPhone 5 (16, 32 and 64GB, A5, 8MP cam, larger screen, tapered design with similar shape back as has been reported, larger home button supporting gestures.) Battery life will be somewhat similar but possibly improved due to use of A5 processor. Will be single design 3G+ multi-carrier handset using new CDMA/GSM Qualcomm chipset allowing single device for all carriers.
If the iPhone 4S and iPhone 5 are both released with the iPhone 4S being the low-end model, why would Apple put the Apple A5 in it? The Apple A5 is noted as being a massive chip making it expensive to produce. The Apple A4 is not a speed demon by today's standards, but I don't see it being a huge impediment for the low-end model. The production supply situation with the Apple A5 would also be tighter than the Apple A4.

Very good observation and the A5 processor bump in the 4s is the only thing in question. The thing that would drive the need for A5 is the new Nuance based voice-assist however that may be limited to top model and makes more sense.
 
You may be streaming 1080p files but what's arriving at your HDTV is 720p. Again, the current :apple:TV appears to have the "heavy lifting" part built inside, but a gate at the end down-converts 1080p to 720p before it sends it to your HDTV. You may have an HDTV that is then up-converting it back to 1080p but up-converting 720p to 1080p is not the same as watching native 1080p.

Eye candy or not is eye of the beholder stuff. When connecting the native video from the 1080 HD Camcorder to the HDTV and then comparing it to the :apple:TV render of the exact same video, EVERYONE in my household can see the difference. Rather than having to go to that trouble, I'd just love to buy some new hardware from Apple that removes that down-conversion gate.

1. This is off topic, don't hijack the thread.
2. This is a software restriction. You can stream native 1080p with the Apple TV 2 if you jailbreak it.

If you want to refute or discuss this claim, please start a new thread to do so.

Back to the iPhone - My take is that there will be a world mode iPhone 4 (That will be the only major change from the current model) and the real eye catching upgrade, the iPhone 5. Just my gut feeling - did we ever get FCC ID's for the iPad or iPad 2 in advance? What about the original iPhone? 3G? 3GS? 4? Did we see iPad 2 parts in the supply chain before its release? iPhones? Not if memory serves me right...but I could be wrong.

It just seems that Apple doesn't care about the N94 leaking some details, it fuels hype and it doesn't reveal anything at all about what the actual flagship upgrade is going to be - may even stop people from looking that much harder.

Case designs were spot on for the iPad 2 - that's why I'm hoping that it will be the same for the iPhone 5.
 
I take all this with a pinch of salt and nothing more. Remember those model numbers Mr X released a while back that where for new mac pros, which were then macbook airs, then apple thunderbolt displays! And in the end some of them where for the new mac minis. Its all just more guess work.
 
I have two theories...

#1 - The "N94" is really the teardrop shape design that we have seen all of the cases for, but Apple simply put the iPhone 5 electronics in an iPhone 4 shell (minus the larger screen of course) for testing purposes. Any testing of the new case design was handled with armed guards and satellite jamming radar! :eek:.
The major part of testing is the antennae system. With the tapered iPhone 5 having a completely different antennae design than the iPhone 4, putting the electronics inside an iPhone 4 chassis and using the iPhone 4's antennae isn't an effective test. Just using the iPhone 4 as a shell also doesn't work well, because even if not in use, I'd think the iPhone 4's metal band housing would change signal characteristics. Testing the iPhone 4 in an iPhone 3GS shell wasn't as big an issue since the iPhone 3GS was plastic.

Very good observation and the A5 processor bump in the 4s is the only thing in question. The thing that would drive the need for A5 is the new Nuance based voice-assist however that may be limited to top model and makes more sense.
Yes, Apple has never found it a problem to limit new iOS features to the top-end model when it was the iPhone 4/iPhone 3GS or iPhone 3GS/iPhone 3G. Although I suppose that could change if Apple considers voice-assist a killer feature. Personally I think its a cool feature, but not that practical. The last thing I need is to be in a bus full of people who not only have their music blaring too loud out of their earphones but are also yelling at their phones to give it commands.
 
I don't understand. Does everyone hate the iPhone 4 design or are you just craving something new? I find the iPhone 4 design pretty nifty myself, I probably wouldn't give it a re-design one year later, if it were me of course.
 
I don't understand. Does everyone hate the iPhone 4 design or are you just craving something new? I find the iPhone 4 design pretty nifty myself, I probably wouldn't give it a re-design one year later, if it were me of course.

I love the iPhone 4 design too, but I guess because of all the mockups I've seen I want something new. Computers are a different story, but I believe the look of a phone should change.

As long as it has a bigger screen, faster, more megapixels and 64GB I won't be disappointed. Although 64GB might be a stretch.
 
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