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Corrected now

They have probably corrected it now. It now lists € 2159, which is about US$ 2600. Sales tax is high in europe, and in Italy is about 20%. So the price with no sales tax (if you are a non EU resident visitor or a EU business outside Italy) you will get it for about €1730, or US$ 2080 (approximate figures). So the US are still more convenient with their systems starting at about $2000. Apple maintains a fair exchange rate between USA and EU on their hardware, but price differences usually reflect crazy high EU sales taxes. Unlike in the US, EU stores usually list prices inclusive of sales tax.

I still prefer buying my Apple stuff when I travel to the US.
 
Why are people hoping that it comes with a remote? Who sits on the other side of the room from their laptop?
 
ordin12 said:
They have probably corrected it now. It now lists € 2159, which is about US$ 2600. Sales tax is high in europe, and in Italy is about 20%. So the price with no sales tax (if you are a non EU resident visitor or a EU business outside Italy) you will get it for about €1730, or US$ 2080 (approximate figures). So the US are still more convenient with their systems starting at about $2000. Apple maintains a fair exchange rate between USA and EU on their hardware, but price differences usually reflect crazy high EU sales taxes. Unlike in the US, EU stores usually list prices inclusive of sales tax.

I still prefer buying my Apple stuff when I travel to the US.
You're right. Here in Italy taxes are at 20%.
But a part from that Apple's rate policy is something... how can i say... strange?
In my bank I can buy 1,2 $ with 1 €. But Apple? No way...
I guess to market a product in Europe can be expensive, but why do I have to pay Eur 1.379,00 for a 17 iMac while in US you pay $1,299.00? WTF?!
 
p0intblank said:
Even though it was already changed, we all know the iBook is going to be called the MacBook. It's obvious to us Mac heads. :)

Then why isn't the iMac now simply called a "Mac"?
 
adamcz said:
Why are people hoping that it comes with a remote? Who sits on the other side of the room from their laptop?

Anyone that plugs their laptop into their TV with a media cord, the cords are generally expensive and not very long.
 
justflie said:
I know a lot of college friends that (while currently PC users) are anxiously waiting for the Macbook. A lot of new Mac users are on they're way...

That about sums me up. I'm going to university, and there's a 99% chance I will pick one up when it comes out.. especially at that price!!
 
mcdermd said:
Then why isn't the iMac now simply called a "Mac"?

The Powerbook name did not have an "i", the new name does NOT affect iMacs. My guess is the "i" will remain and be used for anything that resembles an all in one product.
 
yac_moda said:
The Powerbook name did not have an "i", the new name does NOT affect iMacs. My guess is the "i" will remain and be used for anything that resembles an all in one product.

anywho, I think the old system was much clearer
iBook - Power Book
iMac - Power Mac

Now they want to have "Mac" in their names, but who would doubt the apple-factor of "iBook"?

I don't know where Mac Mini should be placed, but hey, nobody's perfect
 
That comes out to about 849 in U.S. $$$$$$, cheaper is good!!!! By the way, 14'' screen cost abt $250, so $250 + Mac Mini ($599) = $849!
 
Keynote?

tom_s said:
I'd take the iSight. A remote for Front Row on a 13" or 12" screen seems a bit odd to me.

I love watching the keynotes, too.

Ditto on Steve's keynote...

Perhaps someone with a MacBook Pro could answer this for me...Does the Front Row remote work to change slides in Keynote (the program)?
 
tom_s said:
I'd take the iSight. A remote for Front Row on a 13" or 12" screen seems a bit odd to me.
Why not? I'd love to control my iTunes from across the room with a remote. I don't know if you've played around with Front Row much but it's a pretty slick, useful interface for accessing your media.

As for all the bitching about integrated graphics, keep in mind that the graphics on iBooks have never been that great. The current graphics chip is a Radeon Mobility 9550 with 32MB of RAM. The Intel GMA950 is definitely an improvement.

I'd jump on a dual core 1.66 ghz Mac Book with a 13" widescreen for $1199 in a heartbeat, integrated graphics or not.
 
jared_kipe said:
Sweet, good find. Its amazing what people will find in random places.
Very true..

Whats the currency exchange on this thing.. hopefully thats not to much more expensive then before... or too cheap that it will have no power.
 
Kingsly said:
The mini's are performing surprisingly well on integrated cards.
I was pleasantly surprised when I tested one @ the Apple store.


no doubt. very speedy, i was surprised.
 
adamcz said:
Why are people hoping that it comes with a remote? Who sits on the other side of the room from their laptop?

People who plug their laptop into their TV to watch movies and videos
 
mcdermd said:
Then why isn't the iMac now simply called a "Mac"?
(a) iMac is a well known brand(so is the iBook, but iMac is a bit more known), it would mess a lot of people up.
(b) Some people(like a lot of people I know) would confuse it with the original.
 
baddaddy said:
That comes out to about 849 in U.S. $$$$$$, cheaper is good!!!! By the way, 14'' screen cost abt $250, so $250 + Mac Mini ($599) = $849!

I would definitely buy a MacBook at this price. Hell I'd pay my $200 upgrade to get dual core. MMMMmmm Aprilly goodness.
 
ordin12 said:
They have probably corrected it now. It now lists € 2159, which is about US$ 2600. Sales tax is high in europe, and in Italy is about 20%. So the price with no sales tax (if you are a non EU resident visitor or a EU business outside Italy) you will get it for about €1730, or US$ 2080 (approximate figures). So the US are still more convenient with their systems starting at about $2000. Apple maintains a fair exchange rate between USA and EU on their hardware, but price differences usually reflect crazy high EU sales taxes. Unlike in the US, EU stores usually list prices inclusive of sales tax.

I still prefer buying my Apple stuff when I travel to the US.

Mmm now i'm sure there's a way round this, so feel free to inform me...but I'm a UK citizen on temporary assignment to the US, and the San Francisco Apple Store still charges me the California 8.5% sales tax. Sure it's less than the UK VAT, but can I avoid it all together?

Someone told me that if you buy from a website based in a different state you don't have to pay tax...but if I'm in California (where Apple is based) that doesn't help me...
 
Dark Horse said:
Mmm now i'm sure there's a way round this, so feel free to inform me...but I'm a UK citizen on temporary assignment to the US, and the San Francisco Apple Store still charges me the California 8.5% sales tax. Sure it's less than the UK VAT, but can I avoid it all together?

Someone told me that if you buy from a website based in a different state you don't have to pay tax...but if I'm in California (where Apple is based) that doesn't help me...

Only if you're either physically in another state with no sales tax (such as Oregon), or are buying it online and having it shipped to a state like that. If a state has a physical presence in that state then they have to charge sales tax. I'm in california too, and it's hard to find a place that has no presence here. I know i can order from like Tiger Direct and they dont charge sales tax.
 
My guess is there is a one (1) missing in fron of the $999 which would make sense... a MacBook Pro for $1999 .... maybe a 12'' one ?

just my 2 cents ..
 
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