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Apple Again Tops Holiday Sales With 44% of All New Mobile Device Activations
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Hahahaha. That's like saying Toyota failed because they sold more Corollas than Lexus LSs.
For the discussion regarding whether it’s appropriate to look at market share based on manufacturer or platform, well here’s an appropriate (yep... you guessed it... car) but completely hypothetical analogy:
In a hypothetical scenario where Tesla was the only all-electric manufacturer (iOS) and every other brand still sold mainly gas-driven vehicules (Android).
And again hypothetically, let’s suppose Tesla sold 25 million cars a year. Its closest competitor, let’s say Toyota, sold 15 million, and every other brand (Ford, GM, Honda, Hyundai and every other brand on the planet) sold less than 10 million a year each.
Would you call Tesla a failure because the metric “market share of all car sales” shows gas-driven vehicules absolutely crushes it with 90% of the market and electric has a messily 10% hold?
Or would you call Tesla a success for outselling every other car brand individually?
Basically, it’s impossible to completely be objective looking at these two data points since one metric (platform) reaches the complete opposite conclusion of the other (brand).
And if you hate Tesla, you only care about the first metric and dismiss the other. If you are a fan of Tesla, basically the second metric matters more.
This thread in a nutshell.
And yes, for all its failings, I fall in the pro-Apple camp, not ashamed to say. I find the second conclusion to be the more accurate metric of success. The anti-Apple haters here can cry all they want and fail at predicting Apple’s impending doom for the next 10 years.
In a hypothetical scenario where Tesla was the only all-electric manufacturer (iOS) and every other brand still sold mainly gas-driven vehicules (Android).
And again hypothetically, let’s suppose Tesla sold 25 million cars a year. Its closest competitor, let’s say Toyota, sold 15 million, and every other brand (Ford, GM, Honda, Hyundai and every other brand on the planet) sold less than 10 million a year each.
Would you call Tesla a failure because the metric “market share of all car sales” shows gas-driven vehicules absolutely crushes it with 90% of the market and electric has a messily 10% hold?
Or would you call Tesla a success for outselling every other car brand individually?
Basically, it’s impossible to completely be objective looking at these two data points since one metric (platform) reaches the complete opposite conclusion of the other (brand).
And if you hate Tesla, you only care about the first metric and dismiss the other. If you are a fan of Tesla, basically the second metric matters more.
This thread in a nutshell.
And yes, for all its failings, I fall in the pro-Apple camp, not ashamed to say. I find the second conclusion to be the more accurate metric of success. The anti-Apple haters here can cry all they want and fail at predicting Apple’s impending doom for the next 10 years.
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I personally suspected and predicted it, when I saw the announcement of the iPhone 8 series but it is still a bit surprising that its sales are totally getting crushed by the 7 and the 6 series by this huge margin. Remarkable that the 6(s) are selling so well. Price is ok (at least compared to the insane 2017 offerings) and lots of people like the convenience and choice the headphone jack provides.
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We already know. There’s only a couple days left in Q1, and Apple hasn’t issue a modified guidance (warning). This tells us all we need to know about whether they’ll hit their numbers.
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You’re living in the past. Apple switched to providing a range for guidance (instead of a single number) several years ago. How can they lowball a range when they’re usually in the middle?
Can you point to any time in recent history where Apple beat their guidance by a significant margin (necessary for you to claim they “lowball”)? Last quarter they gave guidance of $49-52 and came in at $52.6 billion (considered a monster quarter). You think $0.6 billion over guidance (less than 1%) counts as lowballing?
Apple gave guidance of $84-87 billion this quarter. Where do think they’ll come in at? Even at $84 billion it’s a record quarter for Apple (highest in company history). Based on your claims, should we be seeing $88+ billion?
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No, because they gather their data from representative samples. The sum plays no role.
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OK dude
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Thanks guys... especially falainber
I forgot that this is a Flurry report... and they gather their own data from apps installed on a couple billion devices around the world.
If their dataset is large enough (and it sounds like it is) they can probably make a very good estimate of trends and behaviors across the entire market.
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Correct me if my conclusion is wrong----But-
I scanned thru this thread and came to this conclusion---
I have owned cell phones from the early 90's starting with a Motorola bag phone to my X. I have been a member of many Forums to include this one, XDA, Howard Forums, Android Forums etc. I can not remember one where so many "supposed" owners of a product had so much "dislike" for the company that produced it.
I scanned thru this thread and came to this conclusion---
I have owned cell phones from the early 90's starting with a Motorola bag phone to my X. I have been a member of many Forums to include this one, XDA, Howard Forums, Android Forums etc. I can not remember one where so many "supposed" owners of a product had so much "dislike" for the company that produced it.
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Correct. 4 days to be precise.
Shall we save your 35 million iPhone prediction? You forgot the /S tag when you posted that. I refuse to believe anyone could seriously think Apple will sell so few iPhones this quarter.
Meanwhile on another website an article suggested, that sales of the iPhone X have fallen into the "disappointing" category.
http://www.techradar.com/news/analysts-reckon-the-iphone-8-and-8-plus-are-outselling-the-iphone-x
http://www.techradar.com/news/analysts-reckon-the-iphone-8-and-8-plus-are-outselling-the-iphone-x
Not everywhere. Some countries, more importantly Greece, have adopted the Gregorian calendar long ago and they celebrate on 25th. Christmas tree typically stays for the period of the holidays, presents come on New Years day (or eve) through Saint Basil (Santa Claus is a western thing; came from Saint Nicholas; is now a commercialised/international version that has sadly become a symbol of consumerism).
If the 8 and 8+ were NFL Draft picks, they would clearly be labeled a "Bust" !
Beaten-out by the 7, 6, X, 6s, and 7+, in that order.
And the (1 GB) 6 isn't even offered here anymore in the States, NO less !
Clearly, Tim Cook & his team overplayed Apple's hand in 2017 !
He is a lucky man that Cronyism is alive & well in Apple's Board !
Otherwise, the payout to him that was announced today would be his Exit Package !
Beaten-out by the 7, 6, X, 6s, and 7+, in that order.
And the (1 GB) 6 isn't even offered here anymore in the States, NO less !
Clearly, Tim Cook & his team overplayed Apple's hand in 2017 !
He is a lucky man that Cronyism is alive & well in Apple's Board !
Otherwise, the payout to him that was announced today would be his Exit Package !
The most interesting part of this, for me, is how the iphone 8 is doing; seemingly not incredibly. I say this because it was beat out by almost every model of phone since the iPhone 6s. That's quiote astounding. People seem to be seeing greater value from the devices that came before it.
Are you aware that Android is not manufacturer but just an operating system? While Apple is manufacturer. It should be easy from the tittle to notice this is not Android vs iOS but Apple and other manufactures.
And here's today one:
As you can see it throttles back to about 1500 MHz, battery level is 40%.
No games played.
Oh, common.
Your writing style is so Trump-like, it’s scary.
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Gotta keep bringing in the clicks.
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2 a day, a new phone. 2 a day on average is a good amount to me. At the end of the week that’s like almost 20 iPhone Xs in the wild.
It's in the name: PHANdroid
Just kidding.
This article shows global numbers, I think the ones you pointed out to are U.S. numbers.
It is outstanding how good Samsung is going - selling huge amount of devices when competing not only against other android manufacturers but they also need to compete against apple. That was the thing i noticed from the graph! Good work Sammy! Way to go!