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No I'm saying of course any device with a bigger battery will get better battery life.

You see, you were trying to be sarcastic on the internet and utterly failed! It NEVER works if you try to do that..

Plus, a smart watch is supposed to be a device that works with a smart phone, not replace it, hence why Apple will fail like everyone else IMO except maybe Pebble, because they want a watch that does it all.

i said it before, wearing a watch the needs charging every day, twice a day even, is going backwards in tech not forwards.
 
You don't need the watch connected to your iPhone for everything, there are a few things you can do without it:

See the time, world clock, moon, sunrise
Stopwatch
Basic Calendar (not appointments)
Fitness tracking (steps, distance, stairs climbed..)
Play preloaded music
View preloaded photos
Heart monitor
Passbook (not ApplePay)

Not the hundreds of things you can do while connected, but it's not totally useless without a connection either.
 
I really can't fathom the use case for a watch that doesn't last over a month without needing charging. And that would be a significant performance degradation from my current watch.

The idea of a watch that needs charging every day is just very silly.

What if it was more than a watch? What If it was a health monitor? An iPod? A wireless payment system? A remote control? A location based reminder system? Then do you expect a month of charge? I am not happy about daily charging, I thought apple would expect better and wait until they could provide better but I don't expect a month of charge for any computer which this is. If it was just a watch you're right daily charging would be silly. This is not just a timepiece so it isn't silly that it can't last a month.
 
...The idea of a watch that needs charging every day is just very silly.

Unless it is more than a watch, otherwise it would be very silly for a company like Apple to invest so much on it to end up with a silly product that no one buys.
 
With respect their is a reason it is not waterproof and only water resistant. The fact is that the Watch has a Touchscreen with also uses Force Touch. When you are under water it exerts pressure upon the Watch. Even at a depth most Swimming Pools have it is enough to fool the Watch into thinking that the screen is being pressed using Force Touch or as the Water passes over the Watch the Touchscreen.
Maybe this is a hurdle Apple will overcome with the next generation of Watch but for now I think it is an amazing achievement just to get it on market considering what it can do.
if you still don't think it is amazing then perhaps you should create your own smart watch that can do all that the Apple Watch can do that is waterproof with none of the issues I mentioned. Then sit back and feel annoyed when some smart mouthed so and so rips it to shreds just because it can not scratch their butt from space with a Laser.

I like the watch and the tech is amazing but not being waterproof and just water resistance is not enough for me to consider it at this time since I spend too much time on water sports and would like to use the watch at all times.
Again it is my personal opinion and you getting your pants all wet about it just because I made a criticism is pretty funny and childish of your part. :rolleyes:
 
been a loyal apple user for 25+ years now but this one feels like a miss. who on earth wants to take off a watch twice a day and charge it ALONG w. a phone.

Where do you guys come from? This watch wont be a miss. Just like the Macbook Air wasn't a miss. Just like the iPhone wasn't a miss. Just like the iPad wasn't a miss.

No one will be staring at there watch for hours at a time. This watch is going to be a huge seller.
 
So, who's gonna make the watch band that extends battery life? anybody?
I used to predict the battery WOULD be in the band! Apple has a patent for a segmented band with tiny batteries in the segments. I figured that would allow for a thin watch. I also predicted a liquid metal body, so I'm 0 for 2.
 
I'm not saying that the Watch and smart watch industry is a dud.

I think quite the opposite. I think it can become something great. I have been dissapointed in Android wears offerings for the similar reasons I'm dissapointed in the Apple Watch.

Maybe I had unreasonable expectations, but I had hoped that Apple, like they often do, see a geeky niche market, and make something so refined that it doesn't feel like a geeky tech product anymore.

I'm not seeing this with the Apple Watch. I'm seeing more of the same and i'm feeling let down that I believe they missed the mark in a few places that they could have really shined in above everyone else.

Just curious what other than battery life disappoints you about the apple watch? I'm disappointed that it doesn't have wireless charging. I expect fully after seeing the wireless tech demoed at CES that the gen 2 version will have it and then battery life will be a non issue for most people.
 
if you still don't think it is amazing then perhaps you should create your own smart watch that can do all that the Apple Watch can do that is waterproof with none of the issues I mentioned.

I'm gonna make my own Apple Watch! With blackjack! And hookers!

Just had to bust out the Futurama reference.
 
Apple always says they wait on a product until the tech is right. That's usually true, but not always, and in this case it's definitely not true. Less than 24 hours of battery life is a non-starter. There's no breakout feature here that is enough to outweigh having to charge your watch every night, or possibly even more than once per day. I feel like a 2015 release is being driven by other factors than ones that serve the product.

Are there some big breakthroughs in battery technology that Apple's not aware of? I have no idea if I'm going to buy this but I'm going to keep an open mind until it's released and we get reviews of the device. Right now there are still too many questions.
 
The race for worst case scenario's is on!

The Apple Watch is for full-on participants in a connected world - - if I'm going to be marooned on a desert island, I'll stick with a waterproof, self-winding Rolex.

If I'm going to be marooned on a desert island I won't give a damn what time it is. :p
 
4 hours just staring at a watch?! That's ridicilous. I MAYBE use my phone that much on active days. Who has time?

You won't because it just died.

Sleep over someone else's house (wink, wink) and wake up not knowing where you are, who you are with and now what time it is.
 
I'm not an anomaly. And LOL at those hours you just stated.

You said you regually stay up for 19 hours, and implied with 'those of us who work for a living' that the rest of us - doing 9/10 hour shifts somehow are living a life of luxury.

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Since Apple isn't known for spec whoring I can't see them adding a powerful chip and retina display just because. The one thing we rarely get with rumors is reasons behind decisions made.

I don't understand why you replied to me to say this? Sorry, I must have missed something.
 
A remote control?

That would be handy - controlling the Apple TV from the Apple Watch - hoping Sony geton that bandwagon as well. Maybe a customisable interface - one screen for input selection, another for channel and another for volume. Unlikely to lose the "remote" then.
 
You seem to be completely ignoring people who actually.. kinda do. What I mean by that is what about the frequent traveler. Many journeys across the globe can take upwards of 24 hours between catching flights, the flight itself lay overs etc. Point is, you can find yourself many times in situations where it is not realistic or convenient to pause to tie your arm to the closet power plug you can find to charge your watch, all the while staring at said watch in desperation as you see your boarding time drawing near.

That's just one example. Long bus trips is another.. etc etc.

Then the iWatch in its current iteration is not for you.
 
That would be handy - controlling the Apple TV from the Apple Watch - hoping Sony geton that bandwagon as well. Maybe a customisable interface - one screen for input selection, another for channel and another for volume. Unlikely to lose the "remote" then.

I'm almost certain this will have a remote app for controlling the :apple:TV. The product images on apples website have an app that is most certainly a remote app.
 
i seriously don't understand why apple can't figure out how to come up with charging through motion like those watches without batterys... While running it would keep it from dropping and walking would extend battery life.
 
You do know that the :apple:watch uses the same wire as an iPhone? You just plug the lightning cable into this small round thing and that't it. Image

I don't think that's a Lightning Cable. It's USB on one end and the round thing, unremovable from the cable on the other.
 
i seriously don't understand why apple can't figure out how to come up with charging through motion like those watches without batterys... While running it would keep it from dropping and walking would extend battery life.

I'm sure they explored this. My guess is the amount of charge added from the motion charging mechanism wasn't enough to justify the space it takes up. I filly expect the next version to have wireless charging rendering battery life a non issue for most people since it will be able to charge while you sit at your desk or while you're in bed or wherever.
 
My Android Wear device will have anywhere from 20-60% of its battery remaining when I plug it into the charger at the end of the day, after 15 hours of normal usage. The Apple Watch battery life quoted is similar. This should not be surprising since it will have similar display technology and size, similar (not identical, but similar) CPU, RAM and flash capacity, and will be interacting with the host device in a similar way. There is a limit to what can be done with the limitations of the form factor, need for connectivity and a readable display, etc. The daily recharge is not a bad thing, and it will charge to capacity in under an hour. I've never had to charge my Android Wear watch in the middle of the day, and I use it pretty extensively. Once it died on me but that was about a 19 hour day where I was using it heavily. I'm assuming the Apple Watch will perform at least as well.
Do you have always on display?
 
Sounds great for me. 19 hours is plenty. I'm usually up for 16-17 hours, typically working, in transit, etc. so I doubt I'll need much longer, its not like I'll be looking at it all day. I'd prefer charging it every night, especially if it only takes an hour or so to charge. I could do it while I'm showering before i go to bed, and have it waiting for me in the morning.
 
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