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I have Netflix for the winter months, MLB AB for the spring and summer months and an antenna for OTA. Other than that, there really is nothing else worth watching. What I want to watch costs me less than $200 a year. Apple has nothing to offer me.
 
What TV sets and DVD players offer free Netflix?
Most of them? By "free", I obviously meant free for Netflix not the customer. What's the point for Netflix to offer their content via Apple subscription for a fee when they have their app on most of the devices already? Some content providers might be interested in this service because they may have a chance to expand their customer base but with most important players (Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney, Hulu etc.) widely available on all platforms it's hard to see how Apple can create a service that content providers would be interested in (unless Apple offers low fee). Apple just does not have a critical mass here to be able to bully others into accepting their terms (like they do with App Store).
 
Exactly my thoughts.
As a customer: how would I benefit in getting everything from Apple instead of directly through the apps itself and route it to the TV app?

I think the benefit is you'll be able to watch all of the subscribed to content from within the TV app, rather than clicking a tv show or movie in the TV app and having it push you into the subscription app to watch it. One UI for searching, viewing and managing your favorites lists, instead of having it all scattered across multiple apps.

They could even get good at making content recommendations based on the services you're currently subscribed to vs. throwing you a bunch of recommendations for content you aren't subscribed to. Makes for a better user experience in my opinion.
 
Most of them? By "free", I obviously meant free for Netflix not the customer. What's the point for Netflix to offer their content via Apple subscription for a fee when they have their app on most of the devices already? Some content providers might be interested in this service because they may have a chance to expand their customer base but with most important players (Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney, Hulu etc.) widely available on all platforms it's hard to see how Apple can create a service that content providers would be interested in (unless Apple offers low fee). Apple just does not have a critical mass here to be able to bully others into accepting their terms (like they do with App Store).

It’s your contention that when a tv manufacturer offers Netflix, Netflix doesn’t kick back $$ to the tv manufacturer? What is your source for that?
 
I am guessing is Apple is expecting people to do everything from inside the TV app i.e., become Input 1 on your TV
I never used the TV app on my apple TV so I don't see any need this crap
The TV app is great. Very convenient and intuitive. I strongly prefer the TV app interface over those from Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Hulu.
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Yeah, but what will it be called? Apple+? iStream? Ping2? Moof?
Moof. Please, Moof.
 
Exactly my thoughts.
As a customer: how would I benefit in getting everything from Apple instead of directly through the apps itself and route it to the TV app?

Well, the benefit would be the same as adding, say, Showtime to your Prime Video subscription and being able to browse and watch that content in the same app as your Amazon content. Or adding it to your Hulu subscription so that it's integrated there. It's really about having more of your content served up in one particular UI that you already use a lot as opposed to having to switch between lots of different UIs in different apps when you're browsing for something to watch.

But yes, given that select high-profile content from Showtime, Starz, HBO, CBS All Access, etc. already gets featured among Apple's curated picks in the TV app, and given that all those apps have two-way integration with the universal Up Next queue, it isn't going to be some kind of revolutionary upgrade to switch your Showtime subscription from the Showtime app to an "Apple Channels" subscription in their TV app.

I can foresee that the HD picture quality of those sources may look better when streamed from Apple's servers than when streamed inside the direct-to-consumer apps from Showtime, HBO, etc. That's the case if you subscribe as Amazon Channels in the Prime Video app, because Amazon tends to do a very good job of encoding. They don't bitstarve their streams, so you don't see a ton of compression artifacts in dark or otherwise difficult/complex scenes. Given how good 1080p streams from iTunes look, subscribing to these services via Apple could become the option for maximum picture quality.

Another potential perk is that Apple might include live streams for the various linear channels. The Showtime app includes the east and west coast live feeds of the main Showtime channel only. The HBO Now app doesn't include any live HBO channels. Perhaps Apple will offer all of the associated live channels with a given subscription, as Amazon does (although they do that only on Fire TV and certain web browsers, not in the Prime Video app for Apple TV, Roku, etc.).
 
People hate subscriptions.
**** i dont only despise subscriptions i wont even purchase music or movies through itunes at all because i Far prefer being able to have direct access to my files with no drm in the way such as burning cds to itunes
 
I just want them to fix my current generation Apple TV's from locking up. We can't get an hour out of almost any app before it hangs. Older model works fine.
 
People hate subscriptions.
People hate unreasonable subscriptions. A calculator app with a monthly subscription? Non-starter. Netflix / Hulu / Apple Music? Yes, I'm happy to pay for those.

(Not as interested in having every single company that owns a few shows and a couple dozen movies deciding they deserve a separate $10/mo subscription. There's gonna be a lot of failures down that road. If Apple can put together a compelling bundle, I'd take a look.)
 
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YOU get a streaming service, YOU get a streaming service, YOU get a streaming service, YOU get a streaming service, YOU ALL get a streaming service in an over-the-top Oprah voice.
 
Just a reminder for Apple; You need richer content for Apple Music outside the US. Likewise, Apple Map sucks if you don't live in the US.
 
Apple are so late to this. They were trying for ages of course, but couldn’t swing he deals, and with their typical 30% cut it’s not hard to see why.

So they were forced to make their own content in an attempt to have something to sell a streaming service on.

I can’t see or think of anything Apple can do in television that would interest me in the slightest other than unlocking their entire movie catalogue for a modest monthly fee.
 
It's an Apple service, compared to third party service is why the why it's higher... Apple doesn't control Netflix. You don't have to go via the Apple with Netflix... but having a lower percentage would encourage these services more.
 
Whenever that article image is reused, I wonder what those characters are talking about…

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Which movie or TV show is this?
 
I really don't get Apple.
Amazon Prime gives you 2-day shipping, Prime Video, Prime Music (limited), WholeFoods discounts and other perks for $10 a month.
Apple tries to sucker me with $10 Apple music. That is why I dumped Apple music.
 
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It’s your contention that when a tv manufacturer offers Netflix, Netflix doesn’t kick back $$ to the tv manufacturer? What is your source for that?
It's just might assumption based on two things:
  • I have never heard of any kick backs of the sorts
  • TV manufacturers are actually interested in offering this feature for free because they want to sell their products.
Do you believe that Apple is offering Samsung kickbacks for adding support for AirPlay 2, iTunes and TV apps to their TVs?

I would not know this for sure but it seems unlikely. Regardless if the kickbacks are involved or not the fact is Netflix app is everywhere now. And I do know that I can run Netflix in any web browser - no kickbacks involved :)
 
Unless it's cross platform and works in a standard desktop browser they'll be limiting their customer base and growth.
 
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