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Apple Allegedly Prototyped a Redesigned 27-Inch iMac With M1 Max Chip and Black Finish Last Year
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Maybe you spend too much time with your 32 inch if you really don’t know that most people don’t want a computer screen that large.
True - but you'll probably justify that in the long-term as soon as you upgrade the computer and keep the screen, or vice versa.
Again, true, but you get a system that is more comparable with the highest-end i9 iMac or the iMac Pro, which would have cost around the same by the time you'd upgraded the iMac to 32GB RAM.
Of course, that assumes you like the Studio Display - personally I'd recommend a much cheaper 4k display while you wait and see what new display tech comes along in the next year or two.
Suits me. I kept my old "wired keyboard w/number pad" and Logitech mouse which I much prefer to the Apple tragic mouse and keyboard, and got a pair of 4k displays for half the price of a Studio display.
New iMac 27" for what? You forgot that Studio Display is the new big iMac solution. Why? Its obvious! You have chip there, camera and audio system there, hub with some features there, software powered there, OS like upgrade there. So you have good monitor (not the best, not at all, but good) and a lot of Macs to work with this big iMac like screen and more. Mobile, desktop... what you want, you get. Its better solution then 27 or bigger iMac (or very odd iMac Pro), cos you have monitor for decade +/- and two or three generation computer hardware to exchange. Apple - for me - do this correct, after iMac Pro fiasco, after EoL iMac 27 series. If they produce new one I think only for big $$$ (yea, 3000 minimum for M1Pro/Extrem and so on). If not, Its ok, cos today "affordable" big iMac is oxymoron. You have pro Mac Studio, you have great M1 Mini, new one M2 will be also great and "affordable". So what AiO in 2022/2023? Only 24" and only for typical home, light, colorful system for her, for him (office, social and entertainment) and them (kids of course and school/edu of course). And its fine, its ok. iMac 27"? No!
PS. I have old 27" Intel machine (2013 max version). In 2013 that's great unit, workstation, all-kind-activity solution. Good for everything. But today we have super powerful, much greener silicone, we have clouds, lot of activities powered by external machines (data centers), a lot different factors (smaller, micro, nano ...no big APUs, no 50 slots for nothing) So, D-i-s-p-l-a-y (with logic board, cpus, some typical compute duties) is future, not AiO. We can pay more for that (super duper monitor), but like I said - for 9-10 years usage, not less. If someone want desktop solution of course, many don't, many are nomads, only mobile tech guys.
PS. I have old 27" Intel machine (2013 max version). In 2013 that's great unit, workstation, all-kind-activity solution. Good for everything. But today we have super powerful, much greener silicone, we have clouds, lot of activities powered by external machines (data centers), a lot different factors (smaller, micro, nano ...no big APUs, no 50 slots for nothing) So, D-i-s-p-l-a-y (with logic board, cpus, some typical compute duties) is future, not AiO. We can pay more for that (super duper monitor), but like I said - for 9-10 years usage, not less. If someone want desktop solution of course, many don't, many are nomads, only mobile tech guys.
Seems to me, Apple’s Mac strategy is slowing playing out. If rumors pan out, we’ll eventually have three lines of computers:
1) Headless desktop
a) Mac mini w/ M1 (or whatever number) and M2 Pro (to replace still-existing Intel version)
b) Mac Studio w/ M1 Max and M1 Ultra
c) Mac Pro w/ M2 Ultra and M2 Extreme (or whatever they call 2 ultras stuck together) - Since the Studio looks like two minis stacked, maybe the Mac Pro looks like two Studios stacked. LOL. jk, or am I?
2) AIO desktop
a) 24” iMac w/ M1
b) 27” iMac w/ M2 Max (possibly also with M2 Pro)
3) Laptops
a) MacBook Air 13.6 w/ M2
b) MacBook 15” w/ M2 (to replace the MacBook Pro 13”)
c) MacBook Pro 14” w/ M1 Pro and M1 Max
d) MacBook Pro 16” w/ M1 Pro and M1 Max
If anyone else thinks these details are wrong, chime in. I have no inside information, so all of this is based on what’s out and what’s rumored.
1) Headless desktop
a) Mac mini w/ M1 (or whatever number) and M2 Pro (to replace still-existing Intel version)
b) Mac Studio w/ M1 Max and M1 Ultra
c) Mac Pro w/ M2 Ultra and M2 Extreme (or whatever they call 2 ultras stuck together) - Since the Studio looks like two minis stacked, maybe the Mac Pro looks like two Studios stacked. LOL. jk, or am I?
2) AIO desktop
a) 24” iMac w/ M1
b) 27” iMac w/ M2 Max (possibly also with M2 Pro)
3) Laptops
a) MacBook Air 13.6 w/ M2
b) MacBook 15” w/ M2 (to replace the MacBook Pro 13”)
c) MacBook Pro 14” w/ M1 Pro and M1 Max
d) MacBook Pro 16” w/ M1 Pro and M1 Max
If anyone else thinks these details are wrong, chime in. I have no inside information, so all of this is based on what’s out and what’s rumored.
My 2015 iMac did the same thing! And the SSD in the fusion drive went bad last year. HDD is still going fine
or maybe u activate some neurons and get an external thunderbolt nvme 4x ssd, a lot faster and a lot cheaper than vip/diamond/premium priced apple "options"...
Display technologies is changing now. We are venturing into better backlighting such as mini-LED for close to the same cost as a plain 5K display. Take the example of the studio display. It's only a 600 nit LCD panels display, not really designed for HDR. The early displays were 400 nit or 500 nit LCD panels, backlit LED. We also might see self illuminating OLED computer displays become more mainstream as other vendors recognize opportunities to see better displays than the old LCD/LED backlit that has dominated for years.
If you look at Samsung TVs they want to drop those and switch to OLED.
Samsung Display is getting out of the LCD business
Samsung is investing in quantum dot technology.
www.theverge.com
So yeah I think traditional displays are not forever any more.
Display technologies is changing now. We are venturing into better backlighting such as mini-LED for close to the same cost as a plain 5K display. Take the example of the studio display. It's only a 600 nit LCD panels display, not really designed for HDR. The early displays were 400 nit or 500 nit LCD panels, backlit LED. We also might see self illuminating OLED computer displays become more mainstream as other vendors recognize opportunities to see better displays than the old LCD/LED backlit that has dominated for years.
If you look at Samsung TVs they want to drop those and switch to OLED.
Samsung Display is getting out of the LCD business
Samsung is investing in quantum dot technology.
So yeah I think traditional displays are not forever any more.
I agree that technology is evolving, that is obvious. My point is from a useful resolution standpoint if you bought a 5k standalone monitor in 2014 (I know there weren't any besides the iMac but pretend) to go with a mac mini and you were looking to upgrade your mini today there would be no reason for the average consumer to get a new monitor, the 8 year old 5k would be very useful.
Perhaps this is an agree to disagree situation.
That black finish looks really nice.
I'm very excited to see what Apple brings to the table with the Apple Silicon Mac Pro.
I'm very excited to see what Apple brings to the table with the Apple Silicon Mac Pro.
One thing to note is that Apple displays all somewhat support HDR, though Apple calls it EDR for Enhanced Dynamic Range. They’ll register as HDR, but Apple doesn’t consider it real HDR unless their display can hit 1000 nits. They don’t think standards like HDR400, HDR500, HDR600, etc are real HDR. While many dim monitors claim they support HDR, they don’t do it as well as Apple displays, which don’t even claim to handle HDR.Display technologies is changing now. We are venturing into better backlighting such as mini-LED for close to the same cost as a plain 5K display. Take the example of the studio display. It's only a 600 nit LCD panels display, not really designed for HDR. The early displays were 400 nit or 500 nit LCD panels, backlit LED. We also might see self illuminating OLED computer displays become more mainstream as other vendors recognize opportunities to see better displays than the old LCD/LED backlit that has dominated for years.
If you look at Samsung TVs they want to drop those and switch to OLED.
Samsung Display is getting out of the LCD business
Samsung is investing in quantum dot technology.
So yeah I think traditional displays are not forever any more.
Only Apple’s displays that are spec’ed at 1000 nits sustained with 1600 nits max in HDR are the displays Apple claims do support it, e.g. iPhone, iPad Pro 12.9“ 2021, 14” and 16” MBP’s, Pro Display XDR.
Totally agree, let’s go Apple, get the darn thing done, I miss my iMac Pro. Didn’t like the studio separate components. So traded it in for MacBook Pro m1…… and I hate laptops….. I’m getting impatient as all get out. Okay I’ve had my say, my patients has expanded to last just a bit longer🤦♂️
What you have described is literally the Mac studio
So did I, but I am really happy that Mac Studio and ASD came first.
Apple is still great of knowing better what we need, than ourselves at times.
Sure, but in this case and in some others, they sometimes know what the customers wants.
I actually agree with Apple on this one, but I can be angry in other places, and certainly allow you to have your feelings 😉
Agree, totally, FINALLY I said when they released the Studio and the ASD. 🥰
I have hoped Apple will come with larger ASD as well, but I doubt that iMac IF it will come will be larger.
Not so sure I actually want a larger monitor today, a 2nd one makes more sense on my desktop.
But of course, Apple have figured out they make more money that way also, so….
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O M G are you telling me the studio display has worse sound than the late 2013 27“ iMac? I listened to the speakers of an 16“ m1 MacBook Pro and I actually liked the sound a lot. Shouldn’t the studio display sound better?
I grant you this is subjective - nothing scientific. But my old iMac felt like it had slightly more…I’m gonna call it ‘oomph’ to the sound. I don’t consider it a dealbreaker though; the Studio Display still has extremely good speakers, and I’m satisfied with them. Just think Apple might have sprinkled their usual hyperbole around their performance.
Apple prototyped at least three larger iMac models with Apple silicon chips last year, according to information shared by MacRumors forum member Amethyst back in March. The forum member said they obtained the details from an acquaintance.
We've elected to share this iMac information given that Amethyst accurately revealed details about the Mac Studio before anyone else, including the name of the computer and that it would be available with a doubled-up version of the M1 Max chip with a 20-core GPU and 48-core GPU. Amethyst also shared accurate details about the Studio Display.
The three iMacs that Apple prototyped were as follows, according to Amethyst:
As of March, Amethyst's source said they were not aware of any other larger iMac models having been prototyped by Apple since the aforementioned three.
- The first one prior to August 2021 used the same design as the discontinued Intel-based 27-inch iMac from 2020 with an M1 chip
- The second one around August 2021 used the same design as the 24-inch iMac, but with a 27-inch display and an M1 chip
- The third one around November 2021 used the same design as the 24-inch iMac, but with a 27-inch XDR display, black finish, and M1 Max chip
The most interesting prototype described was a 27-inch iMac with the same design as the colorful 24-inch iMac, but in a sleeker black finish and with an XDR display, which likely would have meant a 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio and high brightness.
While the forum member has a proven track record given the accurate Mac Studio information, there is no guarantee that this iMac-related information is accurate or that Apple plans to release any of the larger iMac models that it allegedly prototyped, especially given that the prototyping is said to have occurred last year.
Apple discontinued its Intel-based iMac Pro and 27-inch iMac models over the last year and a bit, leaving the 24-inch iMac with the M1 chip as Apple's sole all-in-one desktop computer right now. Bloomberg's Mark Gurman and Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo have both claimed that a larger iMac powered by Apple silicon could make a comeback as early as 2023, but details about the computer's design and chip options are not entirely clear.
Mac Pro
Earlier this month, citing the same source, Amethyst also shared details about an alleged pre-production Mac Pro logic board that includes an Apple silicon chip with a 40-core CPU (32 performance cores, eight efficiency cores) and a 128-core GPU. This prototype Mac Pro board is also said to include at least one PCIe x16 slot.
Bloomberg's Mark Gurman reported on the exact same core counts for a future Apple silicon version of the Mac Pro back in May 2021, so it possible that the logic board is for an older Mac Pro prototype based on the M1 series of chips, and it may never be released. In his newsletter last month, Gurman said the new Mac Pro will be available with M2 Ultra and "M2 Extreme" chips, but he did not reveal the core counts for those chips.
Amethyst's forum post about the Mac Pro was recently surfaced by YouTube channel Max Tech.
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I've been an Apple user for 38 years, but my latest 2015 27" iMac died. Ugly death. I'm stuck and struggling using an older 2010 27" iMac. Waiting for a new one to be released.
Started with a 128K 9" Mac and worked through 12 Macs since then. I figure I've invested over $25K in Apple computers. I retired in 2011 and my Mac purchases slowed down.
Waiting for an M1, M2 or M3 27" iMac. Ideally it would have a 1 gig drive and 16GB memory for less than $2,500. Apple can't be stupid enough only to release a $5,000 iMac pro. If the 2010 iMac dies, and Apple doesn't release an affordable 27" iMac soon I'm not sure what I'll do - probably go cheap and move on.
Started with a 128K 9" Mac and worked through 12 Macs since then. I figure I've invested over $25K in Apple computers. I retired in 2011 and my Mac purchases slowed down.
Waiting for an M1, M2 or M3 27" iMac. Ideally it would have a 1 gig drive and 16GB memory for less than $2,500. Apple can't be stupid enough only to release a $5,000 iMac pro. If the 2010 iMac dies, and Apple doesn't release an affordable 27" iMac soon I'm not sure what I'll do - probably go cheap and move on.