Apple Among 60 Companies to File Statement with U.S. Supreme Court Backing Gay Marriage

[Rocketman]

Recognition of gay coupling (interstate) can and does happen whether or not it is called marriage. Blacks are recognized whether or not they are called *******. Let's stop the hype and focus on the goal. Recognition.

Based on the neutering of this post, this site does not conform, whether or not it agrees in principal. MacRumors is PC.

 

[iGrip]

So since we are breaking this barrier, I can marry my dog now right?

Not unless your dog can consent.

 

[Fatalbert]

I'm just a straight woman with a lot of gay friends and acquaintances. Most of them in committed relationships that have lasted a lot longer than most straight people, btw. People who aren't bigots aren't inclined to pine away about the loss of a racial slur (or any kind of slur). So it follows that someone who does is probably a bigot. Do you wish you could freely use fa**ot, too?

I wouldn't ever use either of those terms because I do not wish to offend either group. If the terms were not meant to be offensive, that would be fine. I have nothing wrong with people who are gay.

The only reasons I don't like the fact that the "n" word is offensive are that it's a word in Latin that comes up while reading, and it's kinda sad that people can turn an innocent word into a racist slur. Kinda like using "gay" to mean stupid. It's a personal annoyance when people screw up the meanings of words.

 

[yg17]

For example, the Chick Fil-A owner was asked for his stance on gay marriage. He gave it, and now the gay rights organizations are trying to hurt his business. Death to them for doing something like that.

Free market. Are you saying gay people should be forced to eat Chick-Fil-A?

Just like the pro gay rights people boycotted Chick-Fil-A, the homophobic bigots still stuck in the 18th century are free to boycott Apple for voicing their stance on gay marriage. That's what capitalism's all about.

 

[chrono1081]

Even as an Apple fan, I disapprove.

Why? Because you're not grown up enough to realize no one has the right to tell another who they can marry in the one life that they are given?

Seriously grow up.

 

[Fatalbert]

Free market. Are you saying gay people should be forced to eat Chick-Fil-A?

Just like the pro gay rights people boycotted Chick-Fil-A, the homophobic bigots still stuck in the 18th century are free to boycott Apple for voicing their stance on gay marriage. That's what capitalism's all about.

They don't just boycott it. They hold rallies and deliberately try to keep people away just because the owner dared state his opinion. Boycotting is fine by me even though I wouldn't do it if I was in their position.

 

[Gasu E.]

No.

They (opponents) simply do not equate it to marriage between a woman and a man.

They (the majority of the opponents) want it to be differentiated not banned.

The ballot title of Proposition 8 was: Eliminates Rights of Same-Sex Couples to Marry.

The Proposal read:

PROPOSAL

This measure amends the California Constitution to specify that only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California. As a result, notwithstanding the California Supreme Court ruling of May 2008, marriage would be limited to individuals of the opposite sex, and individuals of the same sex would not have the right to marry in California.

 

[Fatalbert]

Why? Because you're not grown up enough to realize no one has the right to tell another who they can marry in the one life that they are given?

Recognizing gay marriage would not solve this. The government really should just not recognize marriage. Maybe recognize families. It's a religious thing that the church is in charge of. Not everyone believes in marriage anyway.

 

[CalWizrd]

They don't just boycott it. They hold rallies and deliberately try to keep people away just because the owner dared state his opinion. Boycotting is fine by me even though I wouldn't do it if I was in their position.

Wow! Could you imagine if some group tried to do that in front of a woman's medical facility that performed abortions?

Edit: I replied before you changed the text of your post!

 

[Fatalbert]

The ballot title of Proposition 8 was: Eliminates Rights of Same-Sex Couples to Marry.

The Proposal read:

PROPOSAL

This measure amends the California Constitution to specify that only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California. As a result, notwithstanding the California Supreme Court ruling of May 2008, marriage would be limited to individuals of the opposite sex, and individuals of the same sex would not have the right to marry in California.

"only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California"

That is not banishment of gay marriage, only in the legal sense. It's separate and not quite equal, and I do not agree with the bill, but I also do not see what the big fuss is all about.

 

[chrono1081]

They don't just boycott it. They hold rallies and deliberately try to keep people away just because the owner dared state his opinion. Boycotting is fine by me even though I wouldn't do it if I was in their position.

These are people fighting for equal rights that should naturally be given to them. You'd do the same I'm sure if giant companies were using their money to lobby against your rights.

 

[Rocketman]

The ballot title of Proposition 8 was: Eliminates Rights of Same-Sex Couples to Marry.

The Proposal read:

PROPOSAL

This measure amends the California Constitution to specify that only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California. As a result, notwithstanding the California Supreme Court ruling of May 2008, marriage would be limited to individuals of the opposite sex, and individuals of the same sex would not have the right to marry in California.

I am a California resident and an "expert" on legislation and regulation. It is my expert opinion simply changing the term used solves this issue.

It might be worth a try to save a couple decades of pain and suffering for my gay friends. They are genetically gay, and do deserve to couple, after all.

Argue as you will, we do live in a predominantly christian culture, and in a country formed by puritans for god's sake! Deal.

Just Rocketman

 

[Solomani]

Will it make safari snappier ?

No, but it might make Safari more metrosexual. And have a better fashion sense.

 

[Fatalbert]

These are people fighting for equal rights that should naturally be given to them. You'd do the same I'm sure if giant companies were using their money to lobby against your rights.

No, I wouldn't. I'd just boycott. I wouldn't pay them if I didn't like what they were using the money for. As a heterosexual, I also do not think the government should recognize heterosexual marriage or any marriage.

To use the logic presented by proponents of legalized gay marriage, why does the government decide what is marriage? And how is it a human right for the government to recognize his marriage? So "banning" gay marriage is a step forward. "Ban" all marriage, see if I care.

 

[SwiftLives]

They don't just boycott it. They hold rallies and deliberately try to keep people away just because the owner dared state his opinion. Boycotting is fine by me even though I wouldn't do it if I was in their position.

You're missing the point of the Chick-Fil-A boycott. Most folks agree the owner (Actually, it was the CFO) can have and share whatever opinion he wants. The issue was that Chick-Fil-A donated money to groups that actively work to keep same-sex marriage illegal.

The CFO's comments were more or less the catalyst to bring attention to their donations.

I have heard that Chick-Fil-A has since ceased donating to these groups, but I haven't been able to confirm that first hand.

 

[laurim]

They don't just boycott it. They hold rallies and deliberately try to keep people away just because the owner dared state his opinion. Boycotting is fine by me even though I wouldn't do it if I was in their position.

Isn't it fitting retribution for the company using their profits to lobby against the gay people's rights? Seems like tit for tat. It's not picketing their opinion, it's picketing their actual destructive actions.

 

[Fatalbert]

Wow! Could you imagine if some group tried to do that in front of a woman's medical facility that performed abortions?

Edit: I replied before you changed the text of your post!

Yes, I could. That would be bad.

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Isn't it fitting retribution for the company using their profits to lobby against the gay people's rights? Seems like tit for tat. It's not picketing their opinion, it's picketing their actual destructive actions.

Lobbyist groups really only express their opinions, too.

 

[CodeJingle]

I asked the pope to contact god directly. The pope told me that god said to get your head out of your butt, and that he is not the only god, that all other gods and religions are just as good as him and his religion, and that the bible and gospel are just books and should't be interpreted so literally and in such a strict fashion. And if you are still upset about it to go outside and take a walk around the block to cool off.

 

[Digital Skunk]

These are people fighting for equal rights that should naturally be given to them. You'd do the same I'm sure if giant companies were using their money to lobby against your rights.

Yes indeed. Unfortunately there are some things you can't boycott. Like state run institutions that unjustly pick out one racial group or another and just state funds to hurt their communities.

We've got a lot to fight for folks.

I asked the pope to contact god directly. The pope told me that god said to get your head out of your butt, and that he is not the only god, that all other gods and religions are just as good as him and his religion, and that the bible and gospel are just books and should't be interpreted so literally and in such a strict fashion. And if you are still upset about it to go outside and take a walk around the block to cool off.

So YOUR religion is the only correct one then! Got it!

 

[iRun26.2]

Accepting gay marriage is progress IMO. It's not hurting anyone, and the less prejudice in the world, the better.

Nice to see Apple taking the position. Open mindness.

Exactly! I value "open mind-ness'. It is what you want in a company that is to envision new things.

 

[Rocketman]

I find interesting this thread is discussed almost entirely from a "christian" perspective. If you had a Buddist perspective, this debate would seem small and insignificant as compared to the unified force that we should be in touch with, rather than trying, however unsuccessfully, to be conformant with whatever philosophy.

 

[Gasu E.]

"only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California"

That is not banishment of gay marriage, only in the legal sense. It's separate and not quite equal, and I do not agree with the bill, but I also do not see what the big fuss is all about.

I see. You claim a law that STATES "individuals of the same sex would not have the right to marry" does not mean "banishment of gay marriage." Yet you also claim some word is "banned" when there is no law preventing its public utterance. Interesting.

By the way, the word for black in Latin is "niger", which is also the name of a country and a river; and it is NOT the same word as the racial slur. Niger, Niger River, Nigeria== not "banned"

 

[AdonisSMU]

I never said that gay marriage affects me. What affects me is people trying to force others to publicly announce that they support gay marriage. I don't care what the government does about gay marriage, but I personally do not condone it. Legalize it if it seems proper, see if I care. But if I said that without anonymity as a famous person, I'd get sued. That's the problem.

Secondly, churches are coaxed into supporting it. If they do not want to, they should not have to. The church is separate from the government and should be able to call whatever they want "marriage".

For someone who doesn't care, you sure do have a lot to say on the subject. No one is forcing you to believe anything. If people think that you're the scum of the earth because of your beliefs thats their right and you shouldn't be forcing them to think differently.

 

[Fatalbert]

I see. You claim a law that STATES "individuals of the same sex would not have the right to marry" does not mean "banishment of gay marriage." Yet you also claim some word is "banned" when there is no law preventing its public utterance. Interesting.

By the way, the word for black in Latin is "niger", which is also the name of a country and a river; and it is NOT the same word as the racial slur. Niger, Niger River, Nigeria== not "banned"

Saying the "n" word would most likely be considered slander, rightfully so considering its meaning. That is illegal.

Now please do not comment on Latin if you do not know about it. If the Latin word were to be put into the English alphabet with its pronunciation rules, it would have two "g"s because of the hard sound, not one "g", which forms a soft sound in English but not in Latin. Because of a similar reason, the Latin word "ianitor" is "janitor" in English.

The states do not recognize gay marriage. Does that mean that gays cannot marry? It won't be recognized, but wouldn't you consider it marriage? You know, the USA also doesn't recognize that a historical event, the Armenian Genocide, even occurred. Does that mean that it didn't?

EDIT: Wait, replying to a troll. Disregard.

 

[AdonisSMU]

Gay right organizations are boycotting Chick-Fil-A. This means they are refusing to buy Chick-Fil-A products. Do you feel they should be forced to buy Chick-Fil-A products? Obviously, no one is stopping you or anyone else from buying them if you so choose. Buy you seem to feel people should be forced to do business with them, and should face death for not doing so.

I don't know what kind of world you would like this to be, in which people are executed for not buying chicken sandwiches.

When people start threatening death I think it is time to quit playing. Who do they think is part of a gay rights group? Gay people and supporters.