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totally don't get Epic's case. I do get their desire to have different rules, who wants to pay for something versus get it for free. They could still sell the games/tokes/passes whatever on their own web site, then their users could play them on the Apple devices. what is not to love?
 
I think Apple really blew it on this one. Epic is beloved by gamers and showing up to a game offering mistreating one of the biggest enablers for great gaming is sad. Malls learned this a long time ago, let in the anchors for free, and charge everyone else. Epic is an anchor. Let them function within Apple's ecosystem for near free. Milk all the small fish circling around.
 
Saying it doesn’t make it happen, you know.
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The laws has been set, I'm sure you've already read the docs?!
DMA and DSA applies mid 2023 and early 2024 it's executed, then it' done for the anti-competitive fruit company, without any way to appeal.

Okay, edit: https://ec.europa.eu/info/strategy/...act-ensuring-fair-and-open-digital-markets_en

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I think Apple really blew it on this one. Epic is beloved by gamers and showing up to a game offering mistreating one of the biggest enablers for great gaming is sad. Malls learned this a long time ago, let in the anchors for free, and charge everyone else. Epic is an anchor. Let them function within Apple's ecosystem for near free. Milk all the small fish circling around.

People don’t care if Epic isn’t on the App Store. They gambled all, and lost all.
 
App Store is fair. Don't like it? Don't build for it. It's very simple.
Absolutely. When Apple allows for side-loading and 3rd-party stores, they can really show the world how much better the App Store is, and that it is worth 30% of developer revenues.
 
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The Epic Games v. Apple saga started way back in 2020 when Epic Games started allowing Fortnite players to make purchases directly in the app, skirting the in-app purchase rules. Apple quickly pulled the Fortnite app from the App Store, and Epic Games was ready with an antitrust lawsuit over Apple's App Store rules.

The implication here -- that Epic's actions are suspect because they were "ready" with a lawsuit -- is absurd. They forced the situation by breaking the rules (like them or not), yes. But what this really comes down to is the fact that, like any self-interested company (including Apple), they want to make as much money as they can. They've played the situation a certain way to see if they can pry loose extra cash.
 
So what I see is a company “Epic Games” who made a lot of money off the iOS games and is upset with the rules that Apple has put out there. Maybe if going back to the way we did software before where you bought a disc and played it like Xbox or PlayStation, hell even Switch; then offer no updates to bugs and crap for years till you make another disc and then hope your audience buys it again.
Today I think I’m still in Apples side because they made the store and Google has their store so Epic can go to Android and do what they want there. Apple buyers have money to spend and we like what we have. If we didn’t like it we would have bought an Android phone. Enough said.
Android catering to them if they have will probably be a bust as I don’t see a lot of android users like you do Apple users. iPhones are a status symbol to a lot of people or we just like that it works together a lot.
 
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The App Store is estimated to be pure profit for Apple: its operating costs are small relative to revenue. This is considered a "Monopoly Rent" since other competitors can't enter the market and drive down costs (the market being iOS App Stores, not all app stores on all platforms). See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_rent#Monopoly_rent Economists consider that sort of thing generally bad for the economy, AFAICT.
 
You know who the real losers are here… all the Goat Simulator fans.
Wait... was there a second Goat Simulator game??
Come on!

It is well known that Epic has a monopoly on Goat simulators.

By "tying" a free Fortnite goat skin to their existing goat platform, Epic's anti-competitive behavior is completely undermining indie Goat devs.
 
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The App Store is estimated to be pure profit for Apple: its operating costs are small relative to revenue. This is considered a "Monopoly Rent" since other competitors can't enter the market and drive down costs (the market being iOS App Stores, not all app stores on all platforms). See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_rent#Monopoly_rent Economists consider that sort of thing generally bad for the economy, AFAICT.

The app store is less of a monopoly than Fortnite.

The app store has loads of competition and many sellers participating on the store. Meanwhile, only Epic can sell on the Fortnite platform.

It's all so absurd. I hope EPIC/Tencent goes down on this too.
 
If you're a music fan and subscribe to :apple: Music like myself then may find it interesting that the foresaken Tim (Sweeney) has his own radio show. I have little regard for the man and move away from Apple Music One when I hear his show however I thought it was interesting that he hosts a show on the company platform that his entity in embroiled with litigation.Tim.PNG
 
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