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Apple and Meta Reportedly Discussed AI Partnership for iOS 18
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This all sucks. Why was Apple so behind on all of this AI stuff? Was it the electric car fiasco? Why are they having to desperately try and "partner" with all these other (frankly, crappy) companies in order to play catch up?
Siri was semi-revolutionary at first. And then Apple just… slept.
After using ChatGPT voice chat, it's easy to see how amazing an AI Siri could be, especially if allowed to safely interact in the ecosystem. Everything from the basics like playing content (which Siri currently can't even handle well), to stuff like setting up automations or troubleshooting OS or even account issues. It's easy to imagine a lot of daily, high order benefit to consumers.
But Elon is right: anything non-Apple at the core OS level is completely unacceptable.
Siri was semi-revolutionary at first. And then Apple just… slept.
After using ChatGPT voice chat, it's easy to see how amazing an AI Siri could be, especially if allowed to safely interact in the ecosystem. Everything from the basics like playing content (which Siri currently can't even handle well), to stuff like setting up automations or troubleshooting OS or even account issues. It's easy to imagine a lot of daily, high order benefit to consumers.
But Elon is right: anything non-Apple at the core OS level is completely unacceptable.
This would have been an absolutely DREADFUL move if Apple really wanted to keep their image of "Privacy First". Facebook might be the worst possible partner they could work with.
Meta has released their models as open source. I rather run those on device than sending the data to openAI, google or Microsoft. I don’t use any Meta Apps but their AI has been rather more open and transparent than others. I am all for device inference for my personal data. I hope Apple moves most if not all of the AI on device. It should be an exception to send data to servers.
Eww.. gross.. First OpenAI... now Meta?? Apple getting in bed with the biggest crooks in tech today.
This news deeply saddens me.
This news deeply saddens me.
I think it’s because they see that the large AI models are fundamentally different than their own.
That is to say, Apple’s approach is AI features to their existing software that is *personal* to you (and therefore useful to *regular* people).
Apple made AI personal to your life, not the next era of internet search. I can’t see that as “behind” anyone else, it’s a fundamentally different approach. If anything you’re going to see the Microsoft’s and Meta’s of the world struggle to head more in Apple’s direction than vice versa.
In my reading of the tea leaves, Apples long term approach is to whittle external AI usage to highly specialized cases only over time. The use case for normal people (Apple’s entire business model) is already almost complete covered, and will only expand over time.
I agree, it is my expectation too. Just waiting for Apple intelligence to go live, so I can test it out on what runs on device and what goes to the servers. In any case, I hope Apple supports open source on device models.
You have to wonder about the motivation to push AI so heavily. On the one hand, it certainly can, in some circumstances, solve problems that are traditionally very difficult to solve with a heuristic approach. But part of me is mindful of the fact that with most AI implementations, data is going to a server. And that raises all kinds of questions about privacy. And I wonder... is that a motivation? Access to huge amounts of data from users that were previously not available.
Colour me paranoid?
Colour me paranoid?
As shall I.... and hope it will go the way of Ping and be removed from the OS several versions later.
This isn’t going away. Apple models are integrated in to OS. Ping was gimmick on iTunes. Are you seriously comparing an OS to ping. lol.
Depends on the use case. Apple says, any device data will be inferred locally. I don’t care if Siri replaces you want to search web with a response from OpenAI or others. Apple has spent lot of time building these on device 3.5 bit quantized models/adapters that have access to local data. I would love to have on device AI that can summarize, emails, write some email drafts and take care of usual stuff.
I think after the bubble bursts, several versions of AI integration will absolutely go away as smaller companies will disappear or be acquired.
We’re in early days of external AI integration in iOS, expect there to be numerous options in the coming year. Then expect many of those to eventually go dormant and removed as companies go bankrupt or get acquired and folded into the offerings from Meta or Google.
OpenAI, as now clearly an intelligence agency cutout, will not be going away but Apple is going to protect users from them as best as they can (the whole point of PCC).
Because they've largely been on cruise control and have stopped really pushing on innovation
The iPhone drives the whole ship (revenue wise) and every year it's "tweak the camera and slightly change the shape or add a button", etc.
IMO OpenAI is yahoo and AOL of early internet dotcom era. The Google of AI will have a newer approach and take others to the cleaners. Transformers more or less have hit limitations with token predictions and the over all approach. However, just like dotcom era bubble will burst, and AI isn’t going away. Too late to put it back in the bottle.