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If I want to use apple intelligence, yes I have to use chatGPT. Thats the whole point of my post and the whole point of the lawsuit. Don’t be obtuse

No you don't. You'll mainly be using the on-device small LLM and then occasionally the private cloud LLM. There's very little ChatGPT integration into Apple Intelligence, it basically only ever gets invoked when you ask Siri to use it - but you can very easily integrate ANY of the LLM models with Siri.
 
Elon Musk is so horrendously awful that he makes the awful Tim Cook look less awful in comparison.
 
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What many companies fail to understand is that they can no longer chose a partner based on how much they pay because in doing so it could breach anticompetitive laws. Companies are to put out to tender their business and pick the company that is the best one for the job, not the one who can pay the most. This is why Apple got investigate for their partnership with Google over it's web browser because Apple did not pick the company that provided the best web browser, they picked the one that could pay Apple the most money. This is anticompetitive behavior and courts will put a stop to it.
 
AI should be like search engines in Safari. You can leave it default (Google) or choose a different service.
Yup. Similar to Perplexity. About the lawsuit: I don’t get why companies wouldn’t be allowed to choose a business partner to their liking. Why would they even need to consider another company, especially one with a hostile CEO?

Weird.
 
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No you don't. You'll mainly be using the on-device small LLM and then occasionally the private cloud LLM. There's very little ChatGPT integration into Apple Intelligence, it basically only ever gets invoked when you ask Siri to use it - but you can very easily integrate ANY of the LLM models with Siri.
I think a part of the argument here is that Apple literally specifies only ChatGPT:

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AI should be like search engines in Safari. You can leave it default (Google) or choose a different service.

A search engine is a feature inside an app. AI is something that should work across the device as an integral part of the OS.
 
Yeah. I imagine Musk would have also sued Apple had he „developed“ red accessories and dyes and the like but Apple refused to collaborate with him instead of Product Red…
Users are ripped of other shades of red.
 
What many companies fail to understand is that they can no longer chose a partner based on how much they pay because in doing so it could breach anticompetitive laws. Companies are to put out to tender their business and pick the company that is the best one for the job, not the one who can pay the most. This is why Apple got investigate for their partnership with Google over it's web browser because Apple did not pick the company that provided the best web browser, they picked the one that could pay Apple the most money. This is anticompetitive behavior and courts will put a stop to it.
Sounds like socialism and overregulation to me. Your Google example is not really on point, as it was not about Apple having to choose the best browser. It was about Google paying Apple to shut out other search engines. Apple was not the one being sued, it was Google. If Apple had chosen Google without being paid for it, it would have been a different case altogether.

Apple has been very open about wanting to have options for AI engines for their customers. They are looking at good deals with other companies, that also support their preferred privacy driven solution. This is normal business practice. Mr. Musk is whining about the Grok app, and that is total nonsense. If I want to install Grok I can, period. Nothing nefarious going on there.

Also, why would Apple want to deal with a fickle and hostile CEO?
 
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No you don't. You'll mainly be using the on-device small LLM and then occasionally the private cloud LLM. There's very little ChatGPT integration into Apple Intelligence, it basically only ever gets invoked when you ask Siri to use it - but you can very easily integrate ANY of the LLM models with Siri.
I never ask Siri to use ChatGPT, it just does, basically always.
Expect for when I ask about Apple or an Apple product. Then it shows me it’s usual „Here’s what I found on the web“ response.
 
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Its coding AI is above and beyond chatGPT
ChatGPT isn’t for coding, it’s for chat. It’s right there in the name. Code specific models exist and are superior to both. Try the GitHub one, it’s excellent.
 
If Grok was superior in nearly every regard, then Musk wouldn't need to go to court to try to force people to use it!
So you only think it's function when big tech chooses partners and never about money? I can kind of get his point - if they have been forced to make search engines swap'able why not this? AI is pretty much a search engine for many people now
 
I'm pointing out the contradiction of those who would change their stance based on how they feel about certain people rather than basing it out of principle
What’s wrong with that? What if my principal is “I don’t support people like musk and you damn well know why!?”
 
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I never ask Siri to use ChatGPT, it just does, basically always.
Expect for when I ask about Apple or an Apple product. Then it shows me it’s usual „Here’s what I found on the web“ response.

Half the time I have to tell it to ask ChatGPT specifically, so it doesn't do the shoddy "I found this on the internet"

But lets assume you turn Apple Intelligence off for Siri, you can then just tell Siri to ask Claude, Gemini, Grok, etc
 
I think a part of the argument here is that Apple literally specifies only ChatGPT:

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Yeah but the only time it calls ChatGPT is via Siri - and you can plug Claude, Gemini, Grok, Perplexity, whatever you want into Siri if you prefer - either via their apps or shortcuts.

Apple always said they'd add more native options to Apple Intelligence but I don't think you can sue a company for not partnering with everyone straight away.

Why am I "forced" to use Grok on X, I want to use Claude to analyse tweets...
 
To be honest X is probably right, but then they also gain an advantage by taking the competition down. All fun and games and war.
 
Sounds like socialism and overregulation to me. Your Google example is not really on point, as it was not about Apple having to choose the best browser. It was about Google paying Apple to shut out other search engines. Apple was not the one being sued, it was Google. If Apple had chosen Google without being paid for it, it would have been a different case altogether.

Apple has been very open about wanting to have options for AI engines for their customers. They are looking at good deals with other companies, that also support their preferred privacy driven solution. This is normal business practice. Mr. Musk is whining about the Grok app, and that is total nonsense. If I want to install Grok I can, period. Nothing nefarious going on there.

Also, why would Apple want to deal with a fickle and hostile CEO?
Musk is not talking about the app, he is talking about how chatgp is integrated into Siri whereas other AI's are not meaning the user should be given a choice as to which AI the want to be integrated into Siri, not have Apple decide it for them. Just like how Explorer web browser used to be integrated into Windows and every other browser had to be a individual install that worked independently of windows until the courts forced Microsoft to change how it did things.
 
The richest man in the world, ladies and gentleman. But nothing is ever enough. 😔

This toddler needs to take a long walk off a short pier, so we never have to hear from him again.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
 
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