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And Apple's tech relies on Samsung.

Don't forget Samsung's price fixing that Apple benefitted from as well as Samsung's hand in allowing them to create a monopoly of NAND memory where competitors we're squeezed out of buying NAND.

Don't be one sided.

Take your own advice. Apple is a CUSTOMER of Samsung. Therefore Apple is putting money into Sammy's pockets so don't pretend that Samsung is doing Apple any favors. If anything Sammy's acts of vengeance towards Apple is very stupid. They sell chips and screens to Apple but at the same time they are trying to screw Apple's iPhone business.
 
Yeah, nice phone. But if you were a heavy user you were looking at 6 hours battery life once your battery lost a bit of its umph.

Reviews are that even the S6 still can't make it through a heavy use day. Pathetic for a phone that size with a battery that big.

its not the hardware,

it's a really pathetically written piece of bloated crap that they call touchwiz.
 
Rather than saying that Apple trounced, I mean absolutely trounced Samsung in the profit department, and saying that Apple beat Samsung handily in revenue, they spin it by counting the number of phones, no matter what the price.

Exactly. Given that Apple makes about as much money as Google before the iPhone is even taken into account, I wonder what would happen to the marketshare if they sold iPhone 6 at cost.
 
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we need more players in this game to step up and even out the field.

we all 'win' when we have more competition pushing eachother, not just 2 companies

There are more players, they just suck. There are Windows Phones and there were/are Blackberry phones. If these companies can't produce a selling product to compete with Android and iOS that's their own fault.
 
What strikes me is less Apple's dominance of the market, and more its room to grow sales and marketshare at the expense of its competitors.

Pundits are like, the cell phone market is saturated! Well if you're Apple you can always keep eating up slices of Samsung pie.
 
Your horrible experience with them was the Galaxy S III? One of their better devices?
Reviews promised me amazing battery life, which turned out to be 12 hours max unless I switch off 3G and hardly ever use the screen. What's the point in having a device with great features if you can't use it because battery dies? I had to charge it twice a day. (And I'm not a power user.) The first one just died on me, I put it by the bed when I went to sleep and it failed to ring the alarm in the morning, making me oversleep for an important appointment, and then I found out that "backup" only backs up SOME contacts and that's about it. Both my Galaxy S IIIs scratched from just being in a pocket. Not with keys or coins. Just in a pocket. I never managed to make the music play without randomly stopping or skipping, I ended up buying Poweramp and setting all buffers to max and priority to highest, and it STILL would occasionally take breaks in the middle of the song. Micro SD would unmount randomly until I stuck a piece of paper in the slot. Etc. I could go on. It was worse than a Sony Ericsson phone I had that required special headphones to work, and that's an achievement.

So because you didn't like one of their handsets you want the only firm who can challenge Apple to keep on their toes with innovation to go under. Mmm.. Interesting mind set..
I would love Sony Xperia to succeed. I have a Z3 Compact and it's everything that Samsung wasn't. Perfect size, incredible battery, great camera, music actually plays, fab screen, etc. The only reason I didn't go back to iPhone was the calendar widget constantly present on the screen, I used an iPhone for a few weeks and found I keep on missing appointments because I forget to click on Calendar. If one day Apple get proper on-screen widgets rather than just Notification Centre I might go back to an iPhone. I don't know why Xperia isn't more successful, it really should be.
 
It's really a 2 horse race. Why not talk about the 2 horses involved? The article itself clearly says Apple trails Samsung in sales, and also that Apple had a HUGE gain from last year (35-47 million), while Samsung is pretty flat. It's biased to say that one or the other should be the headline.

The article mostly talks about this quarter, which is always a low one for Apple, as people are awaiting the new iPhone, plus Samsung have just brought out the new Galaxy S6's. So of course Apple will be down this quarter, whilst Samsung is up.
 
I used to be a big Samsung fan mobile wise and got many to switch to various models including the original note, however 2 years ago they made a change to their security policy and for my use that was a no no. Im not the average consumer and i suffer from Obsessive flashing disorder (of the rom variety) the moment samsung introduced the efuse i and many others switched. Originally Samsung wooed the XDA crowd but by introducing the efuse and slowness to releases any sources for their exynos processors we left in droves.

Now i would not switch to an iphone as it does not suit my needs in any way (however i think they are stuuning pieces of kit with the best camera out there), but switched to a Nexus. However those i brought on board the samsung train have now also departed as Samsung thought they could compete with Apple in the higher end. Only problem was there mid range offerings were poor. This year alone 3 people took my advice and switched to One Plus Ones as they offered high end specs for a third of the cost. I dont recommend Samsungs any more but either the OPO or Nexus range.

By no means Samsung is doomed they just need to remember the middle crowd with a decent price tag as thats being eaten by OPO, Huawei or Xiaomi.

But Either way Samsung is in a good position as it has its cake and eats it, If its mobile sales go down and Apples sales go up, thats more components sold with none of the grief of supporting it lol, maybe not as much profit but compared to all the other contenders thats a great position to be in
 
2 things...

1) That is an astronomical proportion of Other, and would have expected the Apple+Samsung combo to be much larger.

2) Does anyone know the current breakout for US only? (And/or, is the Other category dominated by particular countries, I would presume China and India.)
 
This doesn't look like a 2 horse race to me. Huawei sold nearly as many phones this quarter as Apple sold in the year ago quarter - if Apple doesn't grow next year and Huawei has a similar growth, they could overtake Apple. It wouldn't be a 2 horse race if it wasn't conceivable that a third horse could overtake one of the other two. Dismissing Huawei in mobile phones would be like dismissing Apple in laptops.
 
This doesn't look like a 2 horse race to me. Huawei sold nearly as many phones this quarter as Apple sold in the year ago quarter - if Apple doesn't grow next year and Huawei has a similar growth, they could overtake Apple. It wouldn't be a 2 horse race if it wasn't conceivable that a third horse could overtake one of the other two. Dismissing Huawei in mobile phones would be like dismissing Apple in laptops.

I agree Huawei have started to up there game, i nearly brought the ascend mate 7 due to screen size but could not get past the emotionui which makes TW look great, However they are rumoured to be producing the next Nexus instead of Motorola so they will also be in a good position
 
Question -- are the samsung numbers only for smartphones over $500? Or what is the definition of premium phones? I ask because I though Apple actually led is sales volume in the top end and that samsung led in all other segments since Apple did not compete in those.
 
What companies are in the "other" category? That's a huge percentage for other. I know LG is probably in there, and Blackberry (lol), but that's a lot of also-rans to make up almost half the market.
Sony, Microsoft, HTC,....
 
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