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According to Samsung's sales numbers, the best-selling smartphone they list is the Galaxy Prevail, a cheap prepaid Android 2.2 phone.

The Galaxy Prevail only sold 2.2 million out of the 21 million total = ~ 10 % of the total. Even when compared just during the quarters it was available, its sales were around 16%.

Not proof by itself that cheap phones sell best.

Likewise, the almost free 3GS also sells very little.

Outside the US, this proportion can be quite different, depending on a country's economy.

I feel like Samsung's huge gain in market share lately is in part due to the fact that even prepaid phones are now considered smartphones since they run Android. "Dumbphones" are getting rare, it's cheaper for manufacturers to just put Android for free than maintain their own dumbphone OS.

Of course they're considered smartphones... because they are. The simple fact is, more people are moving to smartphones over dumbphones.

As for capability, even inexpensive Android smartphones are well equipped for their price. Look up the Prevail as an example. 320x480 3.2" screen, 800Mhz, GPS, expandable to 32GB. For $128 (Amazon) with no contract, that's pretty good.
 
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I know, that's why I said "the best-selling smartphone they list". It still looks like Android is gaining market share faster with cheap phones than with the high-end phones competing directly with the iPhone (Galaxy S line, Nexus line, Galaxy Note) though.

If this is from the current trial proceedings, it does not include the S2, S3, the Nexus line-up or the Galaxy Note though as those are not included in that trial as far as I know, they are in a seperate complaint being handled by the same judge but as a different case.

EDIT : S2 is indeed included :

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Apple is sacrificing their secrets in this trial to try and beat Samsung. I wonder if they'll also sue for that?
 
"Samsung's numbers include only those devices that are included in the lawsuit and thus omit a number of recent popular smartphones"
It is still an interesting snapshot, as Samsung has stopped releasing official unit sales and revenue numbers for smartphones. Its average sales price per phone is roughly half of Apple's and Apple probably gets additional revenue from accessory, app and media sales.

EDIT: Well, not quite half, about 61%.
 
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As for capability, even inexpensive Android smartphones are well equipped for their price. Look up the Prevail as an example. 320x480, 800Mhz, GPS, expandable to 32GB.

If someone doesn't consider the Prevail an smartphone they can't consider the iPhone 3G/3GS smartphones
 
Steve jobs would have never allowed confidential sales numbers to leak out to the public.

Yes. I'm sure you were a dear friend to him.

Seriously, where do these people who think they know what a dead person would do come from? From what I've seen, they tend to be old, smell bad, and have strange tents on the outskirts of a circus, and usually own at least 10 stray cats.
 
It doesn't...

The numbers seem way below previous statements.

What happened to 250 million iPhone?
70 million iPad?

I think the iPhone count you are referring to is the number of total iOS devices.

The figured don't include the latest quarter sales figured which are trending exponential growth. In other words, these figures don't account for iPad 3.
 
I feel like Samsung's huge gain in market share lately is in part due to the fact that even prepaid phones are now considered smartphones since they run Android. "Dumbphones" are getting rare, it's cheaper for manufacturers to just put Android for free than maintain their own dumbphone OS.

Why would how you pay for your phone service factor into whether something is a smartphone or not? That makes as much sense as claiming iphones bought with cash are not smartphones.

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If someone doesn't consider the Prevail an smartphone they can't consider the iPhone 3G/3GS smartphones

Speaking of which, I was kinda disappointed not to see the iOS devices broken down by generation. I am really interested to know how many people are still buying the 3GS.
 
Yes. I'm sure you were a dear friend to him.

Seriously, where do these people who think they know what a dead person would do come from? From what I've seen, they tend to be old, smell bad, and have strange tents on the outskirts of a circus, and usually own at least 10 stray cats.

I think that guy was just trolling or using sarcasm. He got a very annoying comment first on the list. Considering what Steve Jobs said about iPhone copies, it would make sense that he would sue Samsung, which would entail giving out secrets to the court.
 
so sad that a lot of the misinformation spammed continuously could be cleared up by simply reading, what a magical concept that is
 
Perhaps most interesting are Samsung's tablet sales numbers, which include a total of just 1.4 million units sold through the second quarter of 2012 for the three devices included in the lawsuit: the original Galaxy Tab, the Galaxy Tab 10.1, and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 LTE. This is compared to a total of 34 million iPads sold in the United States since its original launch back in 2010.

Most interesting indeed.

Sales of Samsung's pads have evidently been "quite smooth."

https://www.macrumors.com/2011/01/3...-market-in-4q-2010-as-android-gains-momentum/

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Steve wasn't above a court order.

Especially when a court order makes an Apple opponent look really bad.
 
Steve jobs would have never allowed confidential sales numbers to leak out to the public.

When Tim Cook steps down from CEO in the future, will people say "Tim Cook would have never allowed" too? :p

The "<insert name> would never allowed" trending power :p

But given the circumstances I hope you were using sarcasm :p


Agreed, sarcasm or not, people using this need to stop. Pretty sure at this point and time I'd rather read a thread completely arguing over the new iPhone name than to see comments like that ^^^...:rolleyes:
 
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I just find it funny that people are so personal about the issue and feel they have got one over on other people dependent on whichever mobile phone they have. Or feel that Samsung or Apple any other company copying something is a personal insult.

I've had iPhone and Android - Ever heard of best of both worlds?

I have...that's why I have an iPad 2 and a HTC Rezound.

Some people are way too personal about this topic.

I've seen a few too many "Crush em Apple" and "Take that Samsuck" comments here.

You would think some of you were on the design teams at these companies.
 
If the new models were flying off the shelves they would start giving sales figures again.

You're right, they must be lying about their revenues to shareholders, which is what analysts derive unit shipments from.

Samsung stopped giving out unit sales number years ago. Just like Apple doesn't break down unit sales to different models. Why that must be because they don't want you to know the truth right ? That the lowest end model is the biggest seller and hardly anyone buys the 4S ? Of course not, that's just pure conjecture from people trying to find conspiracies where there are none, on BOTH sides of the debate (if you pick a side, you're wrong to start with, but let's not go there).
 
Apple is sacrificing their secrets in this trial to try and beat Samsung. I wonder if they'll also sue for that?

Both Apple and Samsung made multiple motions to the court to keep all their information under seal.

The judge would have nothing of it. She said it was a trial with great public interest, and therefore all the information should be available.

(This later backfired on her when she got mad at Samsung for sending already public info about disallowed evidence to the press, and the Samsung lawyer pointed out he was just following her orders.)

Speaking of which, I was kinda disappointed not to see the iOS devices broken down by generation. I am really interested to know how many people are still buying the 3GS.

I need to dig it up, but recently there was one of those exit survey reports for the USA. It had a very low number for the 3GS. It was 10% or less, IIRC.

So, just as with the Prevail, no one can use the argument that cheap phones account for much of Apple's sales either. (I've been guilty of that.)

Again, this all flips the other way in economically challenged countries like Greece and Portugal, where inexpensive smartphones currently sell best.
 
Again, this all flips the other way in economically challenged countries like Greece and Portugal, where inexpensive smartphones currently sell best.

If you only want use Facebook, whatsapp and programs like that you don't need an iPhone 4/4S or a Galaxy II/3
 
According to Samsung's sales numbers, the best-selling smartphone they list is the Galaxy Prevail, a cheap prepaid Android 2.2 phone.

I feel like Samsung's huge gain in market share lately is in part due to the fact that even prepaid phones are now considered smartphones since they run Android. "Dumbphones" are getting rare, it's cheaper for manufacturers to just put Android for free than maintain their own dumbphone OS.


There are many people out there that love cheap stuff simply because it's cheap, no matter the quality.
 
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