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I'm sorry to say, the Dell XPS13 is looking better and better at $800 with more ports, nicer screen, better graphic power, faster CPU and comparable battery life.

It's not OSX but Windows 10 is looking pretty good. I'd have to think a lot of people would be willing to give this a try. Only ONE PORT is a total freakin' joke.

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I wanted one of those but apparently the keyboard is a bit squishy.
 
It's not about regularity, it's about compromises. I've been known to compromise and unplug my keyboard when I need to use ethernet to move multi-gb files around. It's a compromise I'm not happy about, but do, because it happens so rarely anymore.

But what happens when you can't even compromise. I can't choose between a keyboard or mouse and ethernet. Now, I have to choose between power and, well, anything else.

For 99% of the people, 99% of the time, it won't be an issue.

But for 1% of users, maybe 1% of the time, it's suddenly no longer an issue: The answer is "No".

I feel like you are agreeing with me, but not entirely sure? Your stating my exact point, Apple just made a computer that compromises and (by your estimation) will serve 99% of people 99% of the time...those seem like favorable odds to me! :D If something thinks they might fall into that small % that this computer will fail their connectivity needs....they just shouldn't buy it.
 
lol. more space for battery, but still under 10 hours. you can't make up this marketing stuff. and force touch? Just a different touch pad mechanism. Idk where they get all this wording from. its gold. :cool:
 
I agree with you and entirely understand the setup you have - my point: this is simply not the computer for you. If you know you need USB ports, don't buy a computer lacking them. I have used a USB port maybe a handful of times in the last year, and *needed* one, literally only a single time.

I'm not saying your needs are irrelevant, just that this computer isn't what you need...and, furthermore, that I believe there a many, many people who could buy a computer with a single port and go on almost indefinitely using that computer without needing to use the USB port at the same time as the charger. The example I gave was simply to show how it could be done.

Yeah, you're right. This is not the computer I need.
But I'm kind of upset because it's $300 more than the current Air (which is what I have and what I need) and is a downgrade.

Furthermore, I would have been more forgiving if they INCREASED battery life rather than decreased it. If you have more battery life and charging isn't going to be necessary except for overnight, then it would make more sense to not include a dedicated charger port.
 
wow they updated the 13 inch mac-book pro to include retina with longer battery life. and with magnetic charging and ports. :cool:
 
iPad notebook? It should be priced better. This, the Air's and pro's are too close in price hence why I went for the Pro. A better long term decision. I have an iPad for portability and light tasks.

Everyone is different. Someone's lightweight usage is IOS and another persons need is OS X.

At least this machine comes with 8GB rather than 4!
 
Not that I necessarily love the single port thing (although unlike a lot of people here, I don't much care about carrying adapters and I have a bunch for Thunderbolt) but Apple is pushing toward mostly wireless peripherals. That basically said as much during the introduction. When it came to connecting, the focus was on WiFi and Bluetooth. They didn't even discuss the USB-C connector until CHARGING was the issue.

Anyway, I don't need people jumping down my throat as some Apple fanatic who loves all their decisions for pointing this out. I don't care whether you like their decision here or whether I do, but Apple is definitely pushing in a very specific direction with all of this.

Yeah I understand what you mean. Thanks for not jumping down MY throat. :)

It's true, they're emphasizing wireless. But, I don't want to have to buy a bluetooth mouse just to use my computer.

But as someone else said,
it's just that this isn't a computer meant for people like me.
 
Well eventually..

I'm confused. If this isn't replacing the MacBook Air and it's THINNER than the Air, then doesn't the Air kind of lose its meaning?

Eventually it all loses it's "meaning". As soon as the iPad (PRO) arrives these thing notebooks will fade away too.
 
I'm amused by people who think cloud storage is a full replacement for local storage.

It's not. Even with the fastest broadband connections, cloud storage cannot match the performance of direct connected local storage.

Not sure where I said the cloud is a full replacement for local storage...in fact using the scenario in question, cloud storage would be a far better option than local storage because I could send a link to the file in the cloud and my "client" to download the "large file" at their leisure, instead of using my own mobile data or the poor airport wifi to actually send the large file....

The example given was in response to a "what if" scenario...I fail to see how I claimed, "cloud storage is a full replacement for local storage." An excellent supplement? Yes. Full replacement? Not in anyway.
 
I forget to note. I was hoping for a touch screen. Ill cry about it later. fingers crossed for a ipad pro.
 
charging a rechargeable battery is bad for it?

"And don't leave it on a charger all the time, that's bad for the battery."

Only have something plugged in for as long as it takes to get to 100%. It's not the worst thing in the world to leave it charging, but it will decrease the batteries ability to perform over time.
 
all this getting rid of wires makes me think:
new Thunderbolt display with usb c AND airplay functionality....
 
I just want to say that i was wrong. I thought the new Macbook would be priced above an iPad but below the Macbook Air. They surprised me with the standard 8gb RAM and 256 GB storage, so that bumped the price somewhat. Basically, I thought it would replace the 11in MBA.....obviously, I was wrong. The new Macbook is a premium priced ultra ultra portable, with limited connectivity.

I am glad to see Apple refreshed the MBA and rMBP. I think the MBA is now firmly established as the everyday consumer laptop (under $1,000). Initially, a lot of folks will be reluctant to give up the ports and MagSafe. Also, they won't want to pay the $300+ premium for ultra ultra portability.

With time, the new Macbook's configuration will probably become the new standard....also, the price will likely drop, as it did with the MBA. In the meantime, however, I think the MBA and rMBP are safe, since there are plenty of buyers for these workhorse laptops.
 
lol. more space for battery, but still under 10 hours. you can't make up this marketing stuff. and force touch? Just a different touch pad mechanism. Idk where they get all this wording from. its gold. :cool:

The retina display needs the battery?
 
Here's what a lot of people are missing, and what a lot of people should be looking forward to with a bit of excitement.

A lot of people here are making the mistake of comparing the Macbook to the MBA, and that is their problem. This is not to replace the MBA at all, so people need to stop comparing it to the MBA. The specs alone indicate that!

Everyone here should recall how the original Macbook was initially slotted to be under the MBP, and how the MBA was slotted between them. Since they discontinued the original Macbook, there was nothing to fill that hole, making the 11" MBA the entry model. Now with this new MacBook, it has become the entry model.

Think about it: you can spend $1600 for a 1.3Ghz Core M, 8GB memory 512GB unit with a 480p Facetime camera, USB-C, fanless, and gain Force Touch, a new keyboard, and retina...

.. or spend $1600 for a 1.6GHz Broadwell (or is it still Haswell?), HD6000, 512GB SSD, 8GB memory 13" MBA, 720p HD Facetime camera... Same memory and HD space, and a faster CPU FOR THE SAME PRICE!

All Apple is doing with this unit is backfilling a hole in their lineup. With that being said, the features they've listed is what everyone should be excited for when it comes to a full on revamp of the MBA, which may happen this year.

Think about it: Add everything they've done into a 13" chassis, and keep near to slightly better than the same specs of what the MBA currently has.. possibly Magsafe and USB-C? on both sides?

If anything, you should be excited for what is coming up next in the MBA and possibly MBP's lineup! So everyone here needs to relax, have some coffee, get excited about their next refresh, and bide your time.

BL.
 
Choice?

Why? How does it effect you personally whether Apple keeps selling older models if they continue to introduce new models, as they are? Choice is a good thing.

These are master illusionists and word-smiths honey... They make you "feel" and "think" that there are more to choose from but in "reality", that's it, pay what you get.

If you want choices and "real choices", you will have to develop your own unique line of tools to "really compete" with them. Otherwise - it is all an illusion of feelings and sensationally new ways of describing existing or old technology, wrapped up in a new package and better video quality to show it off to you the (consumer).
 
This is the new "MacBook", not MacBook Air.... makes you wonder what they have in store for the next Air... a hybrid iPad/laptop? That would be cool.

No, I can just see Ive on stage now.

"Here at Apple, we make thinness our obsession. We've reinvented the concept of what a laptop computer is. Imagine a laptop computer which is impossibly thin. Imagine a laptop computer without connectivity ports, keyboard or screen. I present you the Macbook Paper." :rolleyes:
 
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