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A bit of an unusual pattern that Apple doesn't give you more storage/power for the same price. That has usually been what they have done.

On a few other occasions they straight out drop the price. Does anyone remember a product upgrade where all they did was add a more powerful item at a higher price.

Yes. When they introduced the Octo Mac Pro last year. It was introduced at a premium price and nothing else in the line was touched in either specs or price.
 
What, you think just because you'll buy one it will be a instant hit? Dream on.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there hasn't been a 500 dollar iPod ever, or at least in a long while. It's a bit much to pay for an mp3 player and a browser that works at Starbucs and while your sitting on the toilet in your own house.

Hahaha this one really made me laugh. :D

But all joking aside, the iPod touch is great for people like me. I use wireless internet at school all the time, so being able to check mail, myspace, and the like is great. I do have a laptop, but currently the iPod touch works better because I don't have to carry around my ibook. When I finally get a macbook air, then I will probably use the touch more for music and movies on the go. ;)
 
Bite the bullet Apple

Apple needs to eventually bite the bullet and provide the capability to plug in SD/HD (no Sony memory sticks!) like in cameras and other MP3 players then that silliness of having to buy a new iPod every time there is a memory increase will stop. In a year it will be up to 64 or even 128gigs which will make your iPod you buy today obsolete. Yes its because of marketing not engineering but you make money but not using tricks but by innovation. Keeping with memory that you cannot upgrade is not innovation. Doubling memory on ipods ever so often is bogus innovation.
 
I think "28% marketshare" is a WILDLY misleading statistic. They're basing that off units sold in the last quarter. It has nothing to do with the percentage of iPhones vs. other smartphones out in the world. That number is probably insanely low.

According to this AppleInsider article, the worldwide share for Q4 2007 is 6.5%

That is for the "Worldwide converged smart mobile device market"
 
Apple needs to eventually bite the bullet and provide the capability to plug in SD/HD (no Sony memory sticks!) like in cameras and other MP3 players then that silliness of having to buy a new iPod every time there is a memory increase will stop. In a year it will be up to 64 or even 128gigs which will make your iPod you buy today obsolete. Yes its because of marketing not engineering but you make money but not using tricks but by innovation. Keeping with memory that you cannot upgrade is not innovation. Doubling memory on ipods ever so often is bogus innovation.

Hasn't seemed to hurt them since the iPod debuted 7 years ago. Why would it matter now?
 
Why do people buy a MBA when they could get an iPhone or iPod Touch? It's not like the MBA does that much more. Heh heh.
The iPhone and iPT are much more portable too.
 
Apple needs to eventually bite the bullet and provide the capability to plug in SD/HD (no Sony memory sticks!) like in cameras and other MP3 players then that silliness of having to buy a new iPod every time there is a memory increase will stop. In a year it will be up to 64 or even 128gigs which will make your iPod you buy today obsolete. Yes its because of marketing not engineering but you make money but not using tricks but by innovation. Keeping with memory that you cannot upgrade is not innovation. Doubling memory on ipods ever so often is bogus innovation.

Apple needs to stop this silliness and release a worse looking product that removes the need for you to buy more of their product every couple years.

Oh, sorry, I didn't notice you already said that.
 
According to this AppleInsider article, the worldwide share for Q4 2007 is 6.5%

That is for the "Worldwide converged smart mobile device market"


Right, but that's still only based on units shipped for the quarter. It's misleading. When I hear about marketshare, I think total usage. 6.5% of the smartphones being used throughout the world today are NOT iPhones. Just those shipped/sold this past quarter.

I'm curious what the 'actual' marketshare is...how many of all the smartphones being used today are iPhones. I suspect it's well below 1%.
 
I had a new iPhone 8GB 1.1.1 that I bought a while back. I was waiting for my t-mobile contract to expire next week, but I couldn't wait so I decided to software unlock. Instead of using the phone, which is brand new, I posted on ebay right now, so I can buy the 16GB with 1.1.3 and just get a contract with AT&T and not worry about hacking and jailbreaking. If anyone is interested in the item to bid or buy send me a message through here.

I still can't believe people choose a carrier based on a phone. Ya the iphone is great, and I personally would like to have one, but it's not worth going to at&t and losing service in my house.

My 2 cents.
 
What? No disk mode where you can store any type of file on it like the iPod classic? The iPod Touch doesn't have this? That is lame.

Very.

Kind of the whole point of the iTouch.

Hmm, perhaps that is true from Apple's point of view. But I'm not willing to be that tied into a company. If I were, I'd be using IE on a Windows-pc, having my music in the WMA-format.


you are able to install 3rd party software that lets you do this

Yes, in theory. The thing is that the "new" iTouches ship with firmware 1.1.3 – which (to my knowledge) haven't been hacked yet. It seems harder than the former ones. Further, that isn't "true" disk mode, but merely a somewhat cumbersome work-around.

I think there is already third party software that does that, I forget the name, but it was like $20.

No, it's free. But 1.1.3 haven't been hacked yet. The 20 dollar was for getting mail and a few other apps directly from apple.


Since it is software, I would think that SDK apps, or future software updates could offer this capability.
I am not willing to pay for something from Apple with the expectation to get anything from in the form of as-of-yet non-existing SDKs, firmware updates or anything else. Not after they did the "pay 20 bucks to get Mail on the Touch". Besides, crippling the iTouch so it cannot go disk mode is something they actively had to do. A feature left out, so it has become _less_ useful than all the rest of the iPods since, well, since the iPod 5GB.

It would be cool, though, with an iPT 32GB flash-based drive, to run Mac OS 10.5.2, or whatever as an external mac boot disk via it's dock cable. I certainly would like it. I've tried it on older HDD based iPods, but it is pretty slow. I have used it to boot a "thin" installation of Mac OS, with diagnostic utilities, for IT support. Kinda handy.

It wouldn't just be "neat" or "handy", imo. It's revolting there is no disk mode. None at all.

Flash would not have so much trouble with speed, if the USB2 connection is full speed between the hardware devices.
Kind of depend what speed the flash are at.
 
I would be interested in hearing Apple's reasoning for leaving disk mode out of the iPod Touch, and the iPhone for that matter. I can't imagine it's even remotely a justifiable reason.
 
I would be interested in hearing Apple's reasoning for leaving disk mode out of the iPod Touch, and the iPhone for that matter. I can't imagine it's even remotely a justifiable reason.

Something about how the iPhone and iPod Touch interact with or presents itself to the host OS. I also imagine they don't want people figuring out how to break the devices that much faster (if it is presented as a disk then there will alway be parts of it exposed to prying eyes).

Plus it is Apples equipment, since when do they need a good reason to do anything?
 
Something about how the iPhone and iPod Touch interact with or presents itself to the host OS. I also imagine they don't want people figuring out how to break the devices that much faster (if it is presented as a disk then there will alway be parts of it exposed to prying eyes).

Plus it is Apples equipment, since when do they need a good reason to do anything?

Hmmm..that does make sense. Still frustrating though! I've always found it helpful to use my current iPod for storing files to bring to and from work.
 
Hmmm..that does make sense. Still frustrating though! I've always found it helpful to use my current iPod for storing files to bring to and from work.

Seems like that would be a fairly easy application for a 3rd party to write. Maybe we'll see something like that.
 
Something about how the iPhone and iPod Touch interact with or presents itself to the host OS. I also imagine they don't want people figuring out how to break the devices that much faster (if it is presented as a disk then there will alway be parts of it exposed to prying eyes).

Plus it is Apples equipment, since when do they need a good reason to do anything?

Hmmm..that does make sense. Still frustrating though! I've always found it helpful to use my current iPod for storing files to bring to and from work.

LOL, that's not a good excuse by a mile!! That same thing is true for any other iPod, any other computer (excluding the MBA, which haven't any Target Disk Mode). To say, that it makes sense to remove disk mode on the basis "well, they propably want to hide something" is utter nonsense. If they cannot make a device without crippling it in order to "hide something", maybe they ought to get some better programmers.

I can't believe some people just eat whatever apple serves. And are even willing to take a hit on usability because "that is propably by design".
 
I think "28% marketshare" is a WILDLY misleading statistic. They're basing that off units sold in the last quarter. It has nothing to do with the percentage of iPhones vs. other smartphones out in the world. That number is probably insanely low.

It's not misleading, the article explains exactly what the statistic is. Maybe marketshare isn't the right term, but the point stands.

You think 28% of all phones sold in a quarter is something to take seriously?

Apple has made one phone. A very, very nice phone, granted, but one. If they want to be seen as a real player, they need to follow it up and prove they can keep pace with the market.

I guess you can create your own definition of what it takes to be taken seriously. I don't buy that it's "they absolutely MUST release a new model in X months".
 
THIS IS AMAZING!!!

For those who have been waiting for this since the iPod Touch's release release, gimme a HOORAH!!!

Seriously, though, what was apple thinking??
Now there will be many Touch owners who are going to be very upset at this news. I'm sure many ppl who bought the 16 GB Touch because they just couldn't resist the sexyness and just decided to compromise.
I know apple has amazing marketing stategy and all, but i think that they just lacked consideration for their loyal customers....

So they should never update anything so as not to offend people who already have bought one??
Give me a break. I bought myself an i-Pod Touch for Christmas, 16 GB, love it to death. How do i feel about the 32 GB model AWESOME BABY!. Am I mad, No way, I love my i-pod touch, oh and check out SEEQ-POD
 
It's not misleading, the article explains exactly what the statistic is. Maybe marketshare isn't the right term, but the point stands.

You think 28% of all phones sold in a quarter is something to take seriously?



I guess you can create your own definition of what it takes to be taken seriously. I don't buy that it's "they absolutely MUST release a new model in X months".

They'll have to, technology moves on and waits for no-one.
 
LOL, that's not a good excuse by a mile!! That same thing is true for any other iPod, any other computer (excluding the MBA, which haven't any Target Disk Mode). To say, that it makes sense to remove disk mode on the basis "well, they propably want to hide something" is utter nonsense. If they cannot make a device without crippling it in order to "hide something", maybe they ought to get some better programmers.

I can't believe some people just eat whatever apple serves. And are even willing to take a hit on usability because "that is propably by design".
Well you have to ask yourself one question. Does the inability to store random files on the iPhone and iPod Touch affect the devices main purpose in a negative way?
Complaining about the inability to used device as a disk is as futile as complaining about Apples lack of SLI/Crossfire support. It just isn't going to get anyone anywhere.
 
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