Correct me if I am wrong, xUKHCx, but doesn't the UK have like a 20% sales tax?
Here in the US it's about 8% average. Isn't that why Brits pay more for goods?
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Apple Announces 16GB iPhone and 32GB iPod Touch
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Here in the US it's about 8% average. Isn't that why Brits pay more for goods?The reason why there is no disk mode on the iphone is because if a call comes in, you have to be able to unplug it from the computer without first ejecting the disk.
The iTouch makes less sense, but it probably has something to do with it running the same firmware as the iphone.
As I have mentioned before, that intention is ridiculous. It's not an excuse to say to the customer "Yes, sorry, you can't use this or that feature that any other ompetitors have, because we want you to only being able to use what we choose to support through our proprietary player" that is just bogus, but still people are thinking this is all fine and dandy, because that is "the intent".
If I liked that sort of thinking, and thought it fine, I wouldn't have any problems with:
Atrac and the way sony has been using it far from it's potential to have people stay with them through crippled design.
Memorysticks another propretiary design from Sony also to have people become dependent on their aftermarket crap.
IE: Propretary (albeit a de facto "standard") and reluctance to move forward - completely ignoring peoples wishes and wants for years.
Windows Vista: Completely putting the consumer in a straight jacket.
WMA: yet another proprietary format and the DRM'ed version is worse.
iTunes music store: I buy my CD's and rip my own, thank you.
"rental music": No thanks I don't want to be tied in.
And so on, and so forth.
There are numerous other examples, but seriously. You could use the same argument to defend a decision from apple to exclude support for any other music format other than the DRM'd iTunes-crap. But that would be fine, wouldn't it? I mean, it would propably just be because they want you to only buy stuff from iTunes, excluding yu from any other source. Excellent argumentation, methinks.
Good point on the iPhone. But again, other phones can be used in disk mode you may not receive a call while in (true) disk mode, but they can be used like that. I just haven't seen any technical reason for this feature _not_ to be included.
It still hurts me how much the iPhone standalone costs... those tariffs need to come down, down down! Currently I duct tape my N95 to my 16GB iPod touch, and make do
Sweet! 3.5 inch touchscreen with Wifi browser one side, 3G phone and camera on the other 
Wow!!!
500 bucks for an iPod touch?
OUCH! Guess I'll have to do without for a while. With the economy taking such a pronounced hit, how many of these will Apple be able to sell?
Still though, I'd almost give my right kidney for one...
No macbook pro updates today.
500 bucks for an iPod touch?
OUCH! Guess I'll have to do without for a while. With the economy taking such a pronounced hit, how many of these will Apple be able to sell?
Still though, I'd almost give my right kidney for one...
No macbook pro updates today.
Respectfully, I think you're missing the overall point here.
SSD drives are comprised of the following items: a case, a bus, several connectors, a soldiered board and NAND flash memory chips. The reasoning someone gave earlier in this thread is that as capacity increases, so does density and thus more difficult to manufacture high-capacity drives with reliable results. This is false. As you can see from any picture of an SSD drive, multiple NAND or SDRAM chips will make up the storage space. Typically, you will find 8gb NAND modules in typical multipliers - 4, 8, 16.
As you can see here:
http://www.ifixit.com/iPhone-Parts/iPhone-8-GB-Logic-Board/IF105-015
the iPhone 8gb logic board is made up of one NAND 8gb chip.
The 64gb SSD present in the Macbook Air is comprised of 8 such chips.
To roughly calculate the difference in price, let's assume $100 of the $400 cost of an iPhone goes to storage. That's fair as the larger, 16gb iPhone is $100 more for twice the storage. (Thanks, algebra.) The upgrade cost for an SSD drive over a traditional HDD drive in the Air is around $1000.
If we use the cost per gigabyte ratios from the iPhone, 64gb of memory would be $400.
Now, here is the issue most casual observers have, including myself, which you have failed to ponder:
Do the additional parts required necessary to transform NAND flash chips from single-use products to an interchangeable drive (again, these parts are a small logic board, a bus, some I/O and a piece of molded steel) logically justify a cost increase of 2.5 times?
Think on that.
I don't think this will be. I've seen at least 30 or 40 iPod Classic's around here, they're selling like hotcakes.
Cause of the same reason as before.....price man. It would be too much for the 32GB plus the cell phone hardware. I suppose they could give consumers the choice but I don't think a $800.00 or $850.00 iphone would sell very well. And that would still be before the AT&T contract.
On a side note...lol I'm typing this from work right now and I've got a window right on broadway near battery park. The Giants parade is going to start at 11am and its already getting noisy.
Nope, the reason there's no 32gig iPhone is the same reason there wasn't a 16gig iPhone until now.
Both devices have two slots in their motherboard.
iPhone = 1 slot for memory + 1 for phone hardware
iPod Touch = 2 slots for memory
So the 8 gig iPhone and 16 gig iPod Touch both had 8gb memory chips. These two newer models both have 16 gig memory chips, the iPhone has one, whereas the Touch has two.
Unless a major redesign of hardware occurs you can expect them to always debut in this fashion, and by that I mean the next release will be a 32gb iPhone and a 64gb Touch.
A meeting of SSD manufacturers after reading this post:
"ZOMG that kid on the apple rumor site figured out how to make 64GB SSDs for only $400! Why are we still selling them for 1000-1500???
64GB SSD at Newegg
We should read these forums more often! With all the nuggets of wisdom that get thrown around."
Why would I lose service in My house? At&t coverage is all around my house. Yes it is a little pricy, but if you got the money to pay the bill and buy the phone, its up to you to do it...and I'm not bragging.
One exception to that ..... iTouch 32Gig is 100 more from 16Gig, yet iPhone 16Gig is 100 more from the 8Gig model, yet the only difference is the memory. Does not sound right to pay 100 for 16 more gigs on one device and pay 100 more for only 8 Gig on the other. Besides it is likely the same memory. 50 more on the iPhone would have been fair for the 8Gig increase.
I hate the fact that apple has so many different models of one thing with a typical function. There should only be 1 iphone, 1 ipod, 1 laptop...etc. and they should concentrate on developing each one to its fullest instead of making and making models for the heck of it. I know technology advances, but why make 3 different versions of a computer. Just have one model that can do all, not just one that has something the other lacks. Ex. Why does Macbook come in glossy only? so you can rethink and buy the macbook pro? that's stupid, its always about the money. If Apple would make a laptop or iphone with all the functionalities like 3G, gps, ichat...all in one, more people would probably by it.
Whatever its hard to explain...
Whatever its hard to explain...
iPhone is one model, different sizes. Different models can't do different things, beyond hold more data... yet
Again someone fails to use critical thinking to understand my point so let me spell it out:
DRIVE MANUFACTURERS ARE UNNECESSARILY MARKING UP SSD DRIVES FOR PROFIT.
Edit to add: Your Newegg link further proves my point. The components in that device are completely standard and its price is absurd.
If all iPod users had exactly the same needs and the same take home pay, or if all laptop users had exactly the same needs and exactly the same take home pay your argument could have value.
People have different needs and run different applications, some people do video some just do email and browse, as such we all need different levels of power, disk space, memory and ports.
The guy that does only emails is not going to want to pay for the same power and features as the guy that does video. It would only sell to the guy that does Video and he is the minority of the users, therefore Apple would sell a lot less machines. Not everyone needs or is willing to pay for a MacPro with 32 Gig of memory and 4 - 1T drives.
Apple tries to cater to a number of differnt type of users with a number of incomes. If all you have is 80 dollars that you can afford, you can not buy an iTouch with 32 gigs, all you can buy is a shuffle.
The one ring to rule them all does not apply to computer hardware, sorry.
Completely agreed. I'm sure if there were only one option of computer or iPod or whatever it may be, you'd be posting the exact opposite complaint. There'd be tons of complaints that the single option is overpriced, overpowered, underpowered, etc.
Think if we still only had the model T in black as our only option.
No thanks.
Oh that's right because you are so well versed in production and manufacturing costs of 64GB SSDs.
Forgive me if I value the consensus of people who actually work in the industry and didn't just do a little algebra based on Apple Store prices.
One option is not as bad as long as there are no competitors willing to create all the options that you do not create and steal all your customers.
When you are the only game in town one option is some what feasible but you still not getting as many customers since they cant afford you or use your product.
Easy there .... Responsibility to get something understood falls on the writer not the reader. Most readers don't have the time to make 100 considerations while reading your post and yours is not the only one they are reading. Write clear and consider who your audience is to make sure MOST get your point. This is a very diverse audience so it is difficult to get everyone to understand your point. Writing 101.
I know this was not directed at me, but getting hot over this is not the answer.
Besides I am sure those SSD manufacturers would disagree that what they are doing is not necessary. As a corporation they do what they think is best for its shareholders. Is it a rip off, yes. They probably think that getting the most profit in the least amount of time is good for them for the time being. Early adopter tax. Works if people are willing to pay it. Just like the first iPhone that sold for 600.
Vote with your wallet and do not buy at those prices.
Two questions...
1. Anyone have any idea when the 32GB ipod should be available at Best Buy?
2. An opinion really. If you had $125 of Best Buy gift cards would the 32GB seem "worth it"?
I am really fighting the urge to pick one up with the "free" cash. The difference would be that of the current 16GB. Decisions!!!!
1. Anyone have any idea when the 32GB ipod should be available at Best Buy?
2. An opinion really. If you had $125 of Best Buy gift cards would the 32GB seem "worth it"?
I am really fighting the urge to pick one up with the "free" cash. The difference would be that of the current 16GB. Decisions!!!!
thats only $30 less then here and its been out for a few months now. i do not think that by September it is going to cost 300 considering the price of flash memory.
Just for the record, I'd never use all caps...
As a start? The 64GB SSD has 64 flash chips in it. Rework your algebra and you'll find that the SSD is quite a deal.
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/newsView.do?news_id=828