Apple Announces 5.8-inch 'iPhone X' With Super Retina OLED Edge-to-Edge Display

[MrMoruga]

That status bar/camera notch area. Ugh

That horrific notch is everything but Apple.

The embarrassment in the theatre was so thick you could cut it with a knife especially when Phil Schiller was bragging about "edge to edge" display.

Even Jony was embarrassed in his usual video and I'm absolutely sure he was devastated in having to do a demo of the animoji

 

[rGiskard]

If Face ID works the way it did in the demo then it will bomb. I'm not at all interested in it and prefer touch ID since I don't even have to look at my phone to unlock.

OIS on the tele camera is nice but the aperture on the wide angle remains small compared to Apple's competitors so low light performance will suffer.

I didn't hear him say the iP8+ has OIS on the tele. If not then why the huge price increase?

 

[Kevlar]

Did apple mention anything about Fast CHarge?

 

[Appleguy234]

Why does Apple have a such high markup for iPhone when they literally have billions of dollars in the bank. Do they really except the average person to spend $1000 on a phone, even $799 is still a stretch.

 

[Larry-Bloom]

So Samsung skipped the numbers 6 and 7 for their note line and Apple decided to copy and skip straight to ten. I hope Samsung is nice enough to not sue.

really...

No more unlocking the device while it is resting on my desk. Face Id seems to take more work to unlock the phone as well. Look and phone and then swipe up to get to the home screen. Liked touch id better.

actually it is supposed to work at that angle

 

[citysnaps]

I also call BS on their claim a face is more unique than a finger print, how often do hear I seen someone that looks just like you.
I have always thought finger prints are all different

"Looking just like" someone is a far distance from actually being identical to someone. Even monozygotic identical twins have detectable differences.

 

[JGIGS]

$1319+tax=$1477 if I buy the 64gb version off contract in Canada. I think I'll probably wait awhile.

 

[MadeMyDay]

That status bar/camera notch area. Ugh

That top notch is not embraceed into the display. looks ugly
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This one have looked better.

The notched eyebrows can easily be rectified with an iOS update that offers an option to blacken that entire edge. It may also need to scale the image display to keep elements from being truncated. The point is that as long as a software solution is available, the overall product form factor is not compromised.

Whoops. Looks like Face ID isn't quite as seamless as Touch ID.

Prototypes and beta software are always subject to on-stage hiccups. It is possible that the first device was authenticated for another Apple employee. Having a backup device saved the day.

Apple decides SUNGLASSES don't exist.

"If your eyes are closed or you're looking away it's not gonna unlock." - Phil Schiller

There is a tradeoff between lenient authentication and security. Most biometrics do not support sunglasses. To do so would require authentication to rely on just your nose and mouth. It is nice that eyeglasses are supported. For those that automatically darken outdoors and those who wear sunglasses there are other options to gain access:

• Temporarily remove sunglasses
• Login with passcode
• Enable key functions on locked screen
• Use Apple Watch

 

[Appleguy234]

Did apple mention anything about Fast CHarge?

The iPhone X supports fast charging

 

[6803390]

The funny thing is that I am not a fan of the watch but thought the AppleWatch S3 was the only best thing in the event.

I think the notch should be black to blend in with the bezel and have the option of Touch ID. For those reasons, I am not buying the iPhone x. I have never felt so disappointed. My previous: 3GS, 4, 5, 6, and currently: 6S Plus.

 

[mrmini78]

It looks as if the iPhone was just turned on, so it needed the passcode to use FaceID – same situation with TouchID

That’s true, that does make a lot more sense. Anyone who uses TouchID knows exactly what you mean

 

[psac]

I'm wondering what will be the number of the next year iPhones. iPhone XI? Surely not iPhone XS.
Or they'll release two iPhone 9 models and one updated iPhone X with the same name. That'd be the most elegant solution. This way in 2019 they could move to two iPhone X models and call them iPhone 11 or something like that. Or they could stick with the same X name until they redesign the phone.

Or the iphone 9 never exists, and next year they go to the X and the 11.

 

[dampfnudel]

all leaks made the event a snooze fest - audience seem dead

Yeah, not as exhilarating as years past. As much as I like knowing details weeks and months before, it does take a lot of air out of Apple's balloon at the introduction.

 

[Enabledobject]

The lack of showmanship with this crew is astounding. This was the big one. How do you manage to make this one boring?

Phil Schiller is death at these things consistently, but the rest of them were terrible too.. Tim Cook was the only one with a couple flashes of being interesting to watch.

The whole thing made me miss Steve so much.

The best part of the whole show was the opening with Steve

 

[kruegdude]

$1000 pocket emoji computer. Oh Apple.. What happened?!

"Animoji computer"

 

[AZREOSpecialist]

Apple could have, and should have, done better. As I've been saying since 2012, Apple does not have anyone at the top who is paying any attention to the details. Cook is a great bean counter and logistics person, but he sucks at products. So he leaves product decisions up to his minions. I sorely miss that one last critical eye that was Steve Jobs. I've never missed him more than today.

iPhone 8 has no reason to exist and should not have been in the keynote. The iPhone X should have been the only new product announced today, on iPhone's 10th anniversary, and as a replacement for iPhone 7. It should have had the same pricing structure as iPhone 7. At $1,000 I don't see the iPhone X selling in any impressive quantity.

As to FaceID failing the first time during the demo, give them a break! He switched to a backup and it worked fine. Even Steve Jobs had demos fail and was forced to go to a backup device. This is not a valid point of criticism, it is simply something people are picking on because of their disappointments elsewhere.

I'm normally the first to queue up to buy Apple products, but not this time. No Mac Pro in over 4 years, iMac is being completely ignored, and now we get this idiotic iPhone X with a "notch" where there should be screen. And what is all this talk about the phone being "all screen" and having "no bezels". Was I looking at the wrong phone? There is still a border around the screen, I don't see an "all screen" phone.

Overall very disappointed and am concerned for Apple's future if this is the best they can do.

 

[Borddeleau54]

I can't believe this big crowd gathering around a... phone release! A p-h-o-n-e! What's next? A kitchen coffee maker event? GEEEZ... Humanity is going backward and fast. And this "we make peoples life better". I'm sorry Apple, you DON'T make my life better. And no phone will, ever. Neither an Apple TV or watch will. Pfff, still can't believe this. An iPhone mass with a priest celebrating the coming of an iPhone on earth.

 

[lenard]

I can't believe Apple went with that f'n ugly notch!

That is beyond distracting.

That will be one less person in the q with I order my iPhone X....

 

[cliffster82]

After seeing the X I'm going with the 8. Bonus - looks like the 7 and 8 cases are compatible.

 

[master.reset]

The iPhone X supports fast charging

yea both the 8 and the X support it. 50% charge in 30 mins it says on the technical details pages for both devices

 

[9081094]

I'll be honest, not very impressed so far and I use iPhone 6s still.

Surely the display is gorgeous but the design is still very similar. I also think it's large.

And what bothers me the most is that the new iPhone X ad focuses solely on the display. It's not even an Apple invention and we've to thank Samsung for that. Also the new iPhone 8 and 8 plus already look very dated. At least they good make it cheaper. When the rumors hold true Samsung might introduce a new galaxy S9 next January. In my opinion the S8 is already better looking than the X.

Xiaomi and many other Chinese vendors introduced bezel less phones already with super Amoled displays, dual cameras, very good specs for around $ 400-500. Can't see the iPhone 8, plus sell a lot in china and India.

Although I like the iPhone X, it's too high priced to grab one for me and also too late to market. I think we might see Chinese copies before the iPhone X reaches the market.

Apple = snail emoticon

 

[daveak]

I don't understand what Apple was thinking with the launch of the iPhone 8 and 8S. should've just gone with the X. I wish we could bring Steve Jobs back because innovation has has been despicable since Tim Cook took over.

My thought is, they didn't want to release the X yet (without under screen touchId), but Samsung forced their hand with the S8 and its screen, or it fell too far behind schedule and the 8 was the fallback position.

 

[Mactendo]

iPhone X could be better if it hadn't those dumb plastic stripes across its frame and had a straight frame just like iPhone 4/5, not curved one like iPhone 6. And that flat iOS UI... just doesn't fit such phone.

 

[HEK]

Did you watch the keynote? They said that your phone could mistake 1 fingerprint out of 50,000 fingerprints for yours. Doesn't matter if that 1 fingerprint IS not identical to yours. The technology isn't a fingerprint expert (a person) looking at the lines. It can make that mistake 1 in 50,000 times. BUT with the face, it's 1 in 1,000,000 times. So while a person might mistake your cousin (who looks like you) for you, the technology won't.

So, this technology (in theory) is LESS likely to mistake another's face for yours than the fingerprint software is to mistake another's fingerprint for yours.

Don't confuse the technology/software with a person. It is NOT a person. That fingerprint button does it's best to get all of your print--sides, tops, etc. But it can make mistakes (my first phone with the button kept failing to recognize mine--the one I have now, 6S, does fine). A fingerprint is small. BUT a face is bigger and the software here, from what I'm understanding, can map more than that fingerprint button. If that's the case, then it has more information to work with and is more likely to recognize your face than the fingerprint button is your fingerprint. So. Uniqueness of fingerprints isn't the point. It's what the technology can map. Facial recognition can map more = more accurate.

Don't spoil the griping enthusiasts with factual logical information. Let em gripe. The more people gripe at first, the better chance I have of getting my"X" sooner than later.

 

[th-gates9345]

FaceID had better be flawless. Didn't work too well during the demonstration. Te second time, he tried it, I wasn't that impressed with the speed. The idea I have to raise and authenticate is not as convenient as just touching as I raise to unlock. But I'm sure I'll get used to it. I wish he would have demonstrated how it would work on a flat table. THat's the other situation where I wouldn't want to have to raise the phone in order to access it.

They didn't dispel my one concern that ApplePay won't work without looking at the phone during the transaction. In many cases, the POST is away from my face.

EDIT: never mind -- the second demonstration with Apple Pay showed that it can be authenticated before extended to the POST. It's not as convenient as Apple Pay is with Touch ID now, but it might actually be more reliable. I do wonder how quickly the Face Authentication will time out though. That could get tricky.

I'll stay with my Galaxy s8 with Iris scanner (you have to raise it and look it, same as iPhone X) PLUS touch id.

 

[Kevlar]

yea both the 8 and the X support it. 50% charge in 30 mins it says on the technical details pages for both devices

Thanks guys. Must of missed that browsing the stats page!