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sounds like a massive fail for the user experience

"hey you want our app?"

"yeah but I don't see it on the App Store"

"nah you gotta go to the website and download because we want more money"

"terrible"

"oh and type it correctly or else you might go to a scam site"

this is so stupid

But how else are users going to get their beloved adult entertainment app?
 
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Nobody cares about DMA. I’m not going to accept this joke when every scammer starts putting their Trojan horses on websites to download just because of DMA and “fairness”.

I'm not defending the DMA but just going to point out that it seems like you skipped this part of the article:

"developers will soon be able to distribute apps directly from their websites, providing they meet Apple's specific criteria, such as being a member of the Apple Developer Program for two continuous years or more and having an app with more than one million first installs on iOS in the EU in the prior year, and commit to ongoing requirements, such as publishing transparent data collection policies. Apps distributed in this way must meet Apple's notarization requirements like all other iOS apps and can only be installed from a web domain registered in App Store Connect."

TL;DR - not "every scammer" can set up a website and the process is far from the Wild West you make it up to be.
 
It has worked like that on Mac since forever and it has been just fine.

I've heard this argument and yet I don't understand why it's an argument.

It's Apple's platform and they can design each one as they like. It's not like Apple employed a bate-and-switch tactic here, but rather the platform grew to over a billion users being exactly like this the whole time.

Suggesting platform 2 needs to be like platform 1 is like saying saying you need to let me wear shoes in your new home because you let me wear them in your old home.
 
“I reject your example because it disproves my argument.”

:rolleyes:
It disproves the EU's argument.

2008-2012: iOS users wanting premium Spotify subscription must use Spotify web site.
2013-2014: iOS users wanting premium subscription have choice between IAP or using Spotify web site.
2015-2023: iOS users wanting premium Spotify subscription must use Spotify web site.
 
I'm not defending the DMA but just going to point out that it seems like you skipped this part of the article:

"developers will soon be able to distribute apps directly from their websites, providing they meet Apple's specific criteria, such as being a member of the Apple Developer Program for two continuous years or more and having an app with more than one million first installs on iOS in the EU in the prior year, and commit to ongoing requirements, such as publishing transparent data collection policies. Apps distributed in this way must meet Apple's notarization requirements like all other iOS apps and can only be installed from a web domain registered in App Store Connect."

TL;DR - not "every scammer" can set up a website and the process is far from the Wild West you make it up to be.
I know I wrote that in response to people saying this is not fair and that anyone should just be able to do that.
 
Last time I used an an Android, I was amazed that I could just download an APK from a website. Wish this would come to the US someday but I’m not counting on it.

Naysayers can just keep going to the App Store and stop blathering on about security when it won’t even affect you.
 
developers will soon be able to distribute apps directly from their websites, providing they meet Apple's specific criteria, such as being a member of the Apple Developer Program for two continuous years or more and having an app with more than one million first installs on iOS in the EU in the prior year, and commit to ongoing requirements, such as publishing transparent data collection policies.
I've never gone from excited to unimpressed in such a short time span
 
This is exactly how I expected apps from outside of the AppStore to work.

Why or where does the alternative AppStore concept comes from? Is it from the android world? I’ve never used android
 
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This is how to drive a wedge between the Coalition for App Fairness. I'd bet Epic has invested heavily and was counting on having Spotify and other Apps in its coming store. Now they can distribute via their own website and have a price-lever towards Epic. All while epic is unable to provide downloads via its own website, due to the "two years in good standing"-rule. So epic is forced to use AppStore or its (otherwise empty) own store.
Very interesting turn.

Edit: typo fixed
 
Works fine on the Mac
Searching for app developer web sites works the same on Mac/iOS. Paying for things on the internet works the same on Mac/iOS. But the EU doesn't believe that an EU iOS user would know that without an app downloaded from the App Store specifically telling them (see $2 billion fine per anti steering)...BUT they also want to allow direct payments/downloads from web sites for EU iOS users.

They've really twisted themselves into a pretzel with this stuff. One minute EU users couldn't possibly search/pay on the internet by themselves, then the next minute they are searching/paying on the internet by themselves.
 
This is much too dangerous - people will be scammed left and right! Personally, I am cautious even with the App Store. I will ONLY download apps with at least 50 million downloads that have been on the store for more than a year. And only after receiving a confirmation email from Tim Cook.
 
It disproves the EU's argument.

2008-2012: iOS users wanting premium Spotify subscription must use Spotify web site.
2013-2014: iOS users wanting premium subscription have choice between IAP or using Spotify web site.
2015-2023: iOS users wanting premium Spotify subscription must use Spotify web site.
The EU's argument being??
 
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Apple is a bully.
Oh, well that goes almost without saying.

That EU iOS users wouldn't know about Spotify's web site or its ability to take payments without the app downloaded from the App Store telling them. The reality is that was always Spotify's preferred approach.
Are you being disingenuous or do you genuinely not understand that forcing users to go outside of the app and onto the web to subscribe (or otherwise give a direct competitor a 30% cut) puts up a barrier for potential users that Apple does not put up for itself? It's not about not knowing that Spotify has a website.
 
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