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context is native apps.

but glad you think app developers should just write web apps if it was all the same which means this whole controversy was pointless. if not, why did you bring that up?
Even if developers wrote Web Applications (which most companies do, see Adobe) they would work on the iPhone if Apple didn't limit them with WebKit. Those Applications work in Chrome for example.
 
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Regardless of your feelings on it (mine are mixed), surely everyone sees it as inevitable than this is going to spread to the rest of the world before too long?
 
the larger political problem is that the US is pushing digital sovereignty and threatening to nuke apps it doesn't like off of apple and google's app stores. this presents a much lesser problem for android users but opens up the possibility that the US can force apple to delete apps it doesn't like off the app store for every country and not just the US.

if america didn't threaten to weaponize app stores as foreign policy tools laws like the DMA wouldn't need to exist.
 
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1) So because someone prefers not to read or think and clicks on every "yes" button, it's a problem of althertive sources.

2) Did you forget the classic: You're holding it wrong? Also the "Genius bar" isn't so genius as you may think, they are standard Electronic store sellers following Apple's guidelines.
1. you're the one arguing that asking the user if Adobe can access a folder would suddenly make that problem go away
2. Steve never said the exact words "you're holding it wrong" btw. False equivalency either way since I update CC in a standard way and have had many problems.
 
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would work on the iPhone if Apple didn't limit them with WebKit.
I never brought up web apps but you used it as an argument in this discussion.

you somehow brought up web apps as if they're the same as the context of this article: native apps, but then immediately went back on it. 🤦‍♂️

this is extraordinary. I'm moving on.
 
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Sure, I don't mind paying more if they actually build something better. If not, and if they continue to push out software updates that turn a normally working phone into a space heater, I'll be forced to look elsewhere. At the same time they need to address issues with eyestrain and headaches. There is a point at which even those with inertia will start to move away from the Apple ecosystem. At that point, it's all over for Apple.
Sure free market at work. If the price is
High people won’t buy.
 
or companies would force their users to switch.

see: Epic.

Again, unless you think the App Store is pretty worthless, it seems very unlikely too many will abandon it.

Also, this added competition/choice can help push Apple to make the App Store even more appealing to developers and users. That would be great!
 
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Even if you don’t need all those features, you’re still using some features like the SDK which Apple spent money to create and update. Thats why developer accounts aren't free.
But they should be free and not have artificial limitations. It's not that I could not afford to pay the money. I just think that the basic features to build an app should be accessible to promote experimentation and learning.
 
Yeah, share your credit card, billing address, and other personal information with strangers.I can foresee lots of fake websites distributing malware and stealing user information.
True, Mac users are already able to download apps off websites, but these users are mainly adults with at least an inch of brain, able to detect danger.
Phone users range from children to the elderly, a wide range of vulnerable users who may not be able to perceive any danger.
If this is what the EU wants, they are going to be sorry.

You didn't read the article did you. Shame on you spreading FUD.
 
apple already knows this and knew it would be pointless. so perhaps those few customers should simply buy android. instead of putting hundreds of lawyers/engineers/PR/executives' time into this.

Thankfully, it isn't up to you to tell people what they should or should not buy, or should or should not expect to get out of the hardware they buy.
 
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