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sounds like a massive fail for the user experience

"hey you want our app?"

"yeah but I don't see it on the App Store"

"nah you gotta go to the website and download because we want more money"

"terrible"

"oh and type it correctly or else you might go to a scam site"

this is so stupid

the fear this opinion exudes makes it hard to breathe in here. Just stay in the little AppStore and you will be safe. If your favorite app is not in the appstore, just do without. There is no app you really need.
 
Good! Apple is slowly realizing that the EU is serious about this, and they are reversing their own plans more and more. Hopefully this ridiculous 50ct fee will be the next thing to go. It still doesn't seem compliant to me though that it is up to Apple to decide who is allowed to offer an app on their website and who is not.
 
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I don't think people who played Fortnite thought App Store was pretty worthless but here we are.

I don't think you can assume the Epic situation is going to be the norm unless, again, you believe the App Store is widely viewed as pretty worthless overall. If that's how you truly feel then iOS developers and users deserve other options even more instead of being forced to only be able to use the undesirable App Store.
 
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I’m against government being this involved honestly because this is not 100 percent fostering competition.

Few things like this are ever "100 percent" but allowing sideloading and alternative app stores opens the door for more app access competition in a major segment (iOS) of the mobile OS market.



In the case of search this is further giving google more power for example.

In what way do you feel the DMA gives Google more power in search?
 
I’m in EU and I don’t need any other app to be installed on my phone except the ones on AppStore. I have more than everything… but no, EU knows better what I need xD I would ban EU if I were Apple. I can always order the phone straight from…. Switzerland or Canada ;)
 
Nice try, but "being a member of the Apple Developer Program for two continuous years or more and having an app with more than one million first installs on iOS in the EU in the prior year" isn't going to be accepted by the European Commission. These requirements still block new or small developers from exercising their rights under the DMA.
Not even Epic would fall into that which is probably why they worded it like that
 
exactly how I would have done it as people's first impression will be a lasting one even if it becomes easier which results in people giving up on it.

The EU doesn't care how many apps are deployed outside of the app store. Even if zero are sideloaded it isn't the point. The point is the consumer, and the app developer, should have that choice. It shouldn't be forced on them by Daddy Apple.
 
So let me get this straight…

Apple’s App Store was a monopoly but Game Companies who create game stores that solely have their own apps in them is not an exercise of monopoly power? WTF?!!!! What was the point in going after the App Store if this is where it would lead?
You really don't understand the difference? One owns the platform the other doesn't
 
What do you think those other options are going to provide? Prices aren't going to go down because mobile is already the cheapest platform for apps.

Lower selling costs brought on by more app access competition could lower prices for some users and/or create other benefits to customers (developers and users). When Spotify premium subscriptions were offered through the App Store, they were available at a lower price through Spotify's website. Therefore, if new app access competition (sideloading, alternative app stores) pushed Apple to lower commissions it could in fact mean a lower price for users choosing to subscribe through the App Store.
 
The EU doesn't care how many apps are deployed outside of the app store. Even if zero are sideloaded it isn't the point. The point is the consumer, and the app developer, should have that choice. It shouldn't be forced on them by Daddy Apple.
It's never been forced on anyone. Developers could look at the terms for iOS and decide not to release an iOS version.
 
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