It has audio sharing.
Yeah, sorry I meant to go into more detail on the various unsupported devices, but hit the post button and figured, meh
It has audio sharing.
Not saying they can't, of course they could and try to carve a high-end market for themselves in the wireless world and others would follow to be sure. But this product isn't that, not until proven it can do lossless over BT or a future product can. I'm all for wireless as an alternative and use AirPod Pros myself but not for critical listening to well recorded music.But why is it? Wireless is an alternative, it’s not as good but that doesn’t mean that the wireless headphones out there are the upper range, Apple could introduce a wireless pair at $1000, creating a new tier for wireless devices. If you can create a good wireless headphone that uses magic to lower the latency and reduce quality loss, then it’s worth the extra price. Yes wired serves a different market, but that doesn’t mean wireless can’t attempt to enter that market.
Really? I think this is a tad worse.This is the most over priced Apple product yet. good lord.
That's interesting, thanks! However, doesn't that cable contain an ADC at the Lightning end? In effect, the headphones would still get a digital signal, and not necessarily a great one depending on how the ADC works. I'd like to be wrong about that though. If Lightning has provision for an analog signal and that signal can go to the drivers without digitization, just amplification, then we're talking.Looks like you can used them as wired headphones using the 3.5mm to lighting adapter
Lightning to 3.5 mm Audio Cable (1.2m) - White
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I wouldn’t use wireless either for well recorded music, but perhaps there’s people out there for who want audiophile quality and accept a loss in quality for portability.Not saying they can't, of course they could and try to carve a high-end market for themselves in the wireless world and others would follow to be sure. But this product isn't that, not until proven it can do lossless over BT or a future product can. I'm all for wireless as an alternative and use AirPod Pros myself but not for critical listening to well recorded music.
What’s really annoying is seeing all these social media posts opining on the price of these from people who don’t know the first thing about headphones (or consumer electronics at all). Just because Apple did something doesn’t mean the whole world needs to have an opinion on it.
I would count myself in that bucket, and for each of us "portability" also has its limits. The reason I have the AirPod Pros is definitely because of portability and not high fidelity (as compared to my headphone system). But to me over ears are not portable at all and that's why I've never bought into the Bose or Sony products and will stay away from this one as well.I wouldn’t use wireless either for well recorded music, but perhaps there’s people out there for who want audiophile quality and accept a loss in quality for portability.
The original Apple adapters use the most advanced DAC available and are able to transmit Hi-Fi audio with no audible audio loss up to 24bit/96KHZ which is the highest quality available that makes sense on a mobile device and even outperforming expensive external DAC’s that cost 5-10x more. ( Source https://www.kenrockwell.com/apple/lightning-adapter-audio-quality.htm ) If you choose to use cheap AliExp. adapters, then indeed it will degrade audio quality...That's interesting, thanks! However, doesn't that cable contain an ADC at the Lightning end? In effect, the headphones would still get a digital signal, and not necessarily a great one depending on how the ADC works. I'd like to be wrong about that though. If Lightning has provision for an analog signal and that signal can go to the drivers without digitization, just amplification, then we're talking.
Yes, I would. They sound great and lack the sibilance that the H9 series suffered from. They have probably the best sub-bass extension I’ve experienced. That said, I think the AirPods Max would be worth of an audition against the H95.Would you recommend them ? I need a good pair of cans for both wireless and wired use. I love the B&O aesthetic as well.
And? You realise that in 2020 with well implemented codecs on both sides this this doesn’t have to be an issue...They are bluetooth only.
It's converted to digital. The Lightning port can't pass analog audio. It has to be converted to send through USB protocol.That's interesting, thanks! However, doesn't that cable contain an ADC at the Lightning end? In effect, the headphones would still get a digital signal, and not necessarily a great one depending on how the ADC works. I'd like to be wrong about that though. If Lightning has provision for an analog signal and that signal can go to the drivers without digitization, just amplification, then we're talking.
I had the apple ones ordered then cancelled. The case is terrible and not folding is pretty bad. Also kind of ugly IMO.Yes, I would. They sound great and lack the sibilants that the H9 series suffered from. They have probably the best sub-bass extension I’ve experienced. That said, I think the AirPods Max would be worth of an audition against the H95.
My guess is they will sound better than what they’re currently being compared to (Sony) but will reviewers say it’s worth the price? Doubtful.Apple didn't go through all the trouble to make their own line of over-the-ear headphones, if they were going to release something only marginally better than existing Beats offerings. they wouldn't put a separate audio chip and all of the sensors into each ear if it wasn't going to deliver noticeably impressive improvements in the experience. it's a lot compared to $350, but I bet they over-engineered the hell out of it to create something better than all of you are expecting. when the reviews come in, the proof will likely be in the pudding. like the M1
"Audible range" would probably refer to the 20-20,000 Hz that's perceivable by the human ear, not higher bitrates or sample rates. Given that Apple Music and the iTunes Store don't offer any higher bitrates, it's unlikely that these are compatible with them. As far as I know, the H1 only supports the AAC codec and even aptX is capped at a 48 KHz bitrate. Bluetooth has limitations as far as "hi-res" audio goes."High-Fidelity Audio: The Apple-designed driver delivers high-fidelity playback with ultra-low distortion across the entire audible range." So that means that these support 96 kHz / 24 bit audio files?
Sure, a lot of people do - hence why Beats has historically done well, along with Sony with their XM line and Bose, but there is definitely a large market out there for people wanting something a little more discerning and subtle without being clinical - for example Master & Dynamic, B&O, B&W, Shure, and Dali. These are all a step above from the bloated bass tuning of something like the Sony XM4.People like “mass market sound tuning”. Nobody buys headphones with a clinical sounding flat frequency response unless they are recording engineers - who aren’t the target market for this product.
Thanks, that unfortunately is not a replacement at all for an analog signal path. Oh well.It's converted to digital. The Lightning port can't pass analog audio. It has to be converted to send through USB protocol.