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I would venture to guess that most people who use the AirPods Pro also use an Apple Watch. So the heart rate monitor feature is not as useful. I might be wrong but my guess is as far as accessories go, most people would first buy into the Apple Watch and then opt for the AirPods Pro. There are plenty of headphones in the market and work reasonably well that the AirPods Pro is not that unique a device. Not saying that the AirPods Pro are not worth it; just that they are pricy for an ANC headset in 2025. Most people plunking $250 on the AirPods Pro would have already bought into the Apple Watch. So who is the heart rate feature really for? Just seems like a feature that screams ‘just because we could do it’.
 
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I would venture to guess that most people who use the AirPods Pro also use an Apple Watch. So the heart rate monitor feature is not as useful. I might be wrong but my guess is as far as accessories go, most people would first buy into the Apple Watch and then opt for the AirPods Pro. There are plenty of headphones in the market and work reasonably well that the AirPods Pro is not that unique a device. Not saying that the AirPods Pro are not worth it; just that they are pricy for an ANC headset in 2025. Most people plunking $250 on the AirPods Pro would have already bought into the Apple Watch. So who is the heart rate feature really for? Just seems like a feature that screams ‘just because we could do it’.
Agree, and its actually, most probably, worse than that, assuming the Airpods Pro have the same limitation as the heart rate monitor-enabled Powerbeats 2.
 
Almost certainly a big part of it (or all of it).

Foam tips totally changed and improved my APP2

The OG silicone ones sit in a drawer.
The interesting thing about apples tips are they are only foam in the core. The outside is silicon. It reminds me of when I used blu tac on the app1 to dramatically improve ANC by lining the inner side if the silicon. This was measured by a YouTube audio engineer and confirmed that it extended ANC above 1khz (0db.kr)

Since the 3s are still a h2 chip that’s gotta be where the improvement is, along with better passive fit. Still, who cares of its electrics or physical improvement is improvement
 
A good catch and really not acceptable.

This isn't some annual release product and they shouldn't be saying anything about APP1 in a comparsion at this point in time.

That's meant to deceive.

Very disappointing.

It could also mean that there are still a sizeable number of users using the first gen AirPods Pro and this release is aimed at incentivising them to upgrade.

I don’t see it so much as an attempt to deceive as much as Apple is appealing directly to their target audience. Similar to how some Apple silicon Macs draw parallels to Intel models because that’s what the target user base is still on.
 
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I don’t understand the heart rate sensor. Surely anyone seriously working out with AirPods Pro also has an Apple Watch. The amount of people with iPhone AND AirPods Pro and No Apple Watch, who also do serious workouts, had to be vanishingly small. There is no way that specific market is large enough to justify this.

And no explanation of it whatsoever. What happens when you ARE using a workout on Apple Watch at the same time? Which data wins? Are my earbuds going to drain unnecessarily while collecting redundant data?
 
Is that two times better noise cancellation than when they were released or two times better noise, cancellation than the terrible noise cancellation that exists with the current state of AirPods Pro 2? The only way I’d even consider buying another pair of AirPods Pro is with AppleCare and exchanging them every single time the noise canceling failed. The problem is they refuse to acknowledge the issue that is very clearly present despite what some users of this forum think, supported by thousands of standard user complaints on apple user forums.

Maybe the problem is, they added too many features to the AirPods Pro 2 and the increase processing power of the new generation will actually solve that problem in addition to improving noise canceling
 
With the live translation and my hearing loss, the new AirPod Pro is a no-brainer for me.
This is why people need to look beyond the gimmicks of AI on the new Pixel 10 Pro and examine the A19 chip, as the first benchmarks are showing a significant gap between the performance of Google's latest phone and the iPhone 17 Pro Max.
When I go back to japan and I find myself in a remote location on Shikoku island, I will be happy to have a powerful chip on my phone to process internal live translation with my AirPod Pro and iPhone 17, when I don't have a network connection.
I have tried Gemini Pro and even though it's way ahead of Apple intelligence, ChatGPT is much better than Gemini and I can have ChatGPT on my iPhone.
 
I don’t understand the heart rate sensor. Surely anyone seriously working out with AirPods Pro also has an Apple Watch. The amount of people with iPhone AND AirPods Pro and No Apple Watch, who also do serious workouts, had to be vanishingly small. There is no way that specific market is large enough to justify this.

And no explanation of it whatsoever. What happens when you ARE using a workout on Apple Watch at the same time? Which data wins? Are my earbuds going to drain unnecessarily while collecting redundant data?
On the Powerbeats, which also have the heart rate monitoring, the data transfer defaults to the watch. The watch wins. I assume same will be the case here.
 
I didn't see any mention of changes to the charging case. Is it the same size as the one for the APP2?
some small size changes to the charging case + a newer U2 chip for Precision Finding via Find My.
The downside to the size changes of the case are that the battery life the case provides diminishes from an extra 30h on the previous model to only 24h. :confused:
 
some small size changes to the charging case + a newer U2 chip for Precision Finding via Find My.
The downside to the size changes of the case are that the battery life the case provides diminishes from an extra 30h on the previous model to only 24h. :confused:
Thanks for checking this! The reduced runtime is disappointing. It's not a problem for me personally, but it certainly reduces the value of the feature overall.
 
On the Powerbeats, which also have the heart rate monitoring, the data transfer defaults to the watch. The watch wins. I assume same will be the case here.
So then like 90% of people using AirPods Pro 3 will have heartrate sensors discarding data. Nice one Apple. Really good addition.
 
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