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Pricing announced = no thanks. Overpriced, way overpriced in my opinion.

The app appeared during the demo to be arranged by someone with a serious case of ADHD. I guess we'll see if it is easy to navigate and all that when it goes live.

It is easy to navigate. Bit different from old but better. The GUI will not be a show stopper. Anyway, there is still long way to go before GM.
 
Just because you have "millions of songs available to you" doesn't make it cheap, as you can't possible listen to all those songs. If you calculate this on a how many listens per month cost, you'd see $9.99 is quite expensive.

It all depends on how much you listen to music of course. For lots of people the choice between buying 10 songs a month or having millions of songs available for the same amount of money is a very easy one.

Then again I have always spent quite a bit of money on music, and I feel that 10 bucks a month for any of the major streaming services is a tremendous deal; I would happily pay 25 or more if I had to, I used to spend way more than that every month on music back in the 80s and 90s.

One of the huge attractions for me with streaming services though is the discovery of new music. I listen to tons of stuff these days (discovered via playlists, friends playlists, 'similar artists', recommendations from the service and so on) that I had never even heard about a year or three ago, and that I would never have discovered if I just went along and bought 'what I know I like...'.
 
The wording of apple is "Unlimited listening from the Apple Music library".

Very good chance iTunes Store library and Apple music library are not one in the same.
 
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Why do you need both? The same songs would be offered to you from the Apple Library.

Doesn't match allow you to permanently download matched music to your library (upgraded quality)? This new service is streaming everything. So, in the moment, both seem identical. But use match to download anything you store in the cloud, then stop paying for both. Your subsequent experience will be very different.
 
Match will still let you stream uploaded songs that are not in the iTunes library. Many people have special recordings, rips from old records and cds, and bootlegs that they can stream from iTunes Match.

Except that Apple says that Apple Music membership does that too. Specifically, songs not in their library are uploaded, just like Match. So it's confusing why they say the two are complimentary instead of just explaining that most people would just want one or the other.
 
People seem to be thinking that this subscription gives you access to the entire iTunes library. Where does it state that Apple Music contains all of iTunes?


Right here...


For less than the price of most albums, you get access to the full Apple Music library, expert recommendations, our take on the best new music, and unlimited skips on our radio stations.
 
iTunes Match should have been included and given the ax as a separate service - that's I'm saying. Apple has too much going on with music. Beats 1 AND Apple Radio?? Good grief.
 
Negativity here is appalling....

Not the biggest fan of the
existing music streaming structure: artists are getting pennies (literally and figuratively) from every song you stream and the rest goes to the record label. But then as I said previously, if this turns out to be the "new app-store-like environment" for artists like myself, where I can self publish and utilise the "connect" feature and bypasses labels, I am drinking the apple koolaid this time.
 
Right here...


For less than the price of most albums, you get access to the full Apple Music library, expert recommendations, our take on the best new music, and unlimited skips on our radio stations.
Apple Music Library != entire iTunes Store library. There are plenty of record labels/bands/artists who would really like to see streaming just go away. Pink Floyd is one of those bands. And they're not exactly an unknown thing.
 
Right here...


For less than the price of most albums, you get access to the full Apple Music library, expert recommendations, our take on the best new music, and unlimited skips on our radio stations.

Uh, thanks, but again they state the "Apple Music library", which appears to be a separate thing from the "Apple iTunes library". Nowhere is it stated that these are the same.
 
Since offline mode is confirmed, can i download so my music offline and put the music on a ipod shuffle/nano? Is this possible?
 
Jimmy Iovine , genius, sells Beats to Apple, and gets apple to buy him a Radio station!
 
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Negativity here is appalling....

Not the biggest fan of the
existing music streaming structure: artists are getting pennies (literally and figuratively) from every song you stream and the rest goes to the record label. But then as I said previously, if this turns out to be the "new app-store-like environment" for artists like myself, where I can self publish and utilise the "connect" feature and bypasses labels, I am drinking the apple koolaid this time.

So are you thinking you'll make more than pennies with this service vs. what's already available? If so, why? Record labels will still want theirs. Apple is not exactly known for not being hungry for fat margins. Which one of them are taking the hit to pay the artists more?
 
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No thanks. I'll rent my tv content, but not my music. I'd rather put that $10/mo to the Apple TV service when that comes out.
 
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Doesn't match allow you to permanently download matched music to your library (upgraded quality)? This new service is streaming everything. So, in the moment, both seem identical. But use match to download anything you store in the cloud, then stop paying for both. Your subsequent experience will be very different.

This. With a paid subscription active, the experience is basically the same for music you own between the two services. Apple Music adds the ability to stream ANY song from iTunes, not just music you own.

With iTunes Match, all the matched songs can be downloaded and are YOURS TO KEEP FOREVER. With Apple Music, the matched songs will disappear when you stop the subscription.
 
So iTunes Radio basically becomes Apple Music Radio with limited skipping for non music subscribers and unlimited skipping for music subscribers, much the way it works for iTunes match subscribers today.
 
Uh, thanks, but again they state the "Apple Music library", which appears to be a separate thing from the "Apple iTunes library". Nowhere is it stated that these are the same.
I agree with this post. While I am sure the "Apple Music Library" will be huge, could very well not be anything close to the full iTunes library. It is some tricky word play by Apple. After all, if one did have full access to the full complete iTunes library, they would have played that up to the max during the keynote.
 
So as I understand it, being an Music member will get you a Spotify-like experience (unlimited streaming of the entire library, save for offline listening etc) but with an element of iTunes Match thrown in - songs you have in iTunes not in the Music Library will be uploaded. I guess that the difference between this and Match will be once you've stop paying you lose acces to even your uploaded songs, even if you've saved them for offline listening, whereas with match once you've (re)downloaded them to your device it doesn't matter if you stop paying you can still listen the songs.
 
So disappointed. I was hoping Apple would do something cool and new with this.

Here are just 2 ideas that would have made me drop Spotify and Pandora in a second:

1. Seeing the albums with the full artwork, liner notes, lyrics etc. Anyone else remember getting lost in the artwork and lyrics while checking out a new album? Why does nobody offer this? That was always a part of the experience for me.

2. What about incorporating some features of their new "News" app where you can see interviews and reviews that are aggregated from around the web on the artists page? Content for real music fans and not just casual listeners are only interested in what is basically a Twitter feed.

As a music fan, that's what I want to see. I want to be immersed. I don't like that experiencing music is a background activity now (for example, listening to a song while you check out Facebook). I wanted Apple to come in a show us how to fully appreciate music again. To sit back and pay attention to what the artists have to say, how much thought they put into the presentation of their work, who was involved, who wrote what, etc.
I wanted this to be the place where I could go to find out everything I can about the artist.

Instead we got an Apple branded imitation of something others have been doing for years.

*sigh*
 
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