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So are you thinking you'll make more than pennies with this service vs. what's already available? If so, why? Record labels will still want theirs. Apple is not exactly known for not being hungry for fat margins. Which one of them are taking the hit to pay the artists more?
I was referring to streaming music industry in general. It is a flawed and unsustainable ecosystem for artists.

A spotify revenue for artists goes like this: 70/30 where 70 goes to the record label, 30 to Spotify. Record label takes another huge cut (~30-40%) before it goes to the artist. With a platform like this, artists can in theory be their own record label and take a larger cut. Don't know if it will happen, but I have hope after seeing Eddy Cue introducing an "unsigned" artist on Connect.

We are still talking pennies here for unknown artists. What is interesting for me the most is the sharing feature, of which artists can cross germinate and be discovered. Or at the very least, share their own creation at a bigger, music-oriented platform.
 
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If Apple gets rid of iTunes Radio for iTunes Match customers who pay for it so they do not have to deal with Ads (sadly we would like unlimited skipping) is really going to piss off many people. If Steve Jobs was still around he would never let music labels control Apple services.
 
Why would you lose access to your uploaded songs?

If it's identical to Match, who'd pay £20 when they can pay £10 for the same service? I'm going to guess that Apple Music, if you delete your local copy in iTunes of the uploaded file, will give you full access to your uploaded stuff as long as you pay but will DRM it again somehow so if you stop paying you can't listen. Just a wild guess, but no way Apple would offer two services that gave the same benefit at such different price points.
 
Is there any advantage to owning anything rather than renting it? Renting is a forever drain on your wallet such that when you stop paying you own NOTHING. Owning is a one-time drain and you own it up to forever... or you can loan or sell it to someone else... and you can will it to someone else when you die. Owned music may be higher quality, cannot slip in an ad model between songs, etc. Owned music will play as long as you have battery; streamed will need an internet connection or it will eventually run out of stuff to play.

How do I loan music to someone? Give them my AppleID? Same with selling.

Same thing with the death you speak of. Better get your lawyer to put your AppleID in your will so your kids can download your music.

We have no idea if owned digital music will play forever. Only as long as you have a working copy of iTunes and can see the files I guess.

Your argument is wrong.
 
Well, again no price indications over here as for now. According to Apple's homepage it will be available though but without any timeline mentioned. SomI guess negociations aren't done yet.

I hope the iTunes Radio disaster won't repeat...
 
If it's identical to Match, who'd pay £20 when they can pay £10 for the same service? I'm going to guess that Apple Music, if you delete your local copy in iTunes of the uploaded file, will give you full access to your uploaded stuff as long as you pay but will DRM it again somehow so if you stop paying you can't listen. Just a wild guess, but no way Apple would offer two services that gave the same benefit at such different price points.
i don't think you understand what Apple Music does...

this service does what iTunes Match did, AND gives you unlimited access to the entire Apple Music Library -- so it's like iTunes Match and Spotify got together and had a lovechild with a radio station and artist connect feature nobody's going to use.
 
People seem to be thinking that this subscription gives you access to the entire iTunes library. Where does it state that Apple Music contains all of iTunes?

With iTunes Radio, Apple Music, iTunes, iTunes Match, it's no wonder why today's presentation was such a mess. Their services are a mess.
On Apple's website! http://www.apple.com/music/discover/
For Apple Music members, the collection you own and love is just the beginning. Now you can also listen to the tens of millions of tracks in the Apple Music library. Our dedicated team of experts is here to help you find new music to love. Enjoy recommendations handpicked just for you or explore everything they find that’s new and noteworthy in the world of music. It’s all yours.


Match will still let you stream uploaded songs that are not in the iTunes library. Many people have special recordings, rips from old records and cds, and bootlegs that they can stream from iTunes Match.

So will Apple Music Membership (it's all on the website)

Wherever your music comes from — purchased in the iTunes Store, ripped from a rare import CD, or downloaded from your favorite music blog — everything you’ve collected lives in one place. And alongside it is the ever-expanding Apple Music library. It’s like having just about every song ever recorded at your fingertips.
 
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That family pricing is pretty incredible. 14.99 for 6 people. That would cost $40 with Spotify since the only offer up to a 5 person plan for $30 so plus another person in a normal account would be $40. If Spotify matches they will be even less profitable. If they don't another reason why people will flee.

Would be nice if they offer a 'pretty' interface for migrating your playlists from Spotify to iTunes but that will probably be left up to third parties.
 
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I am confused.

With Spotify Premium I can search for, say "Bruce Springsteen". The search will come back with most or all of his albums. I can pick and choose which of the albums to listen to. It's wonderful.

Will Apple Music work this way?
 
14.99 for family up to 6. I only have 2 in my family, but it's still the same as Spotify.
If it has Tool, ACDC and some other artists that are not on Spotify, I'm switching just for tighter integration. And there is a Windows client - back to iTunes, lol.


For me and my family, it's 15$ cheaper. I'll give it a chance.
 
Thats not the case, the uk site shows what you get for free vs paid and iTunes radio is free to every one
i don't think you understand what Apple Music does...

this service does what iTunes Match did, AND gives you unlimited access to the entire Apple Music Library -- so it's like iTunes Match and Spotify got together and had a lovechild with a radio station and artist connect feature nobody's going to use.

Except they will still offer iTunes Match for the same price it always was, they even link to it from the Apple Music description page. Again, there HAS to be a difference between the two and all I can come up with is not being able to access your uploaded stuff if you stop paying for Music, even if you're be re downloaded it to your machine. But time will tell. Not even a release date,for it on the UK page yet, so it might never come anyway.
 
The wording of apple is "Unlimited listening from the Apple Music library".

Very good chance iTunes Store library and Apple music library are not one in the same.

It says 'tens of millions of tracks in the apple music library' so yea it may not be every song, but it's most. Tens of millions is quite a few
 
Except they will still offer iTunes Match for the same price it always was, they even link to it from the Apple Music description page. Again, there HAS to be a difference between the two and all I can come up with is not being able to access your uploaded stuff if you stop paying for Music, even if you're be re downloaded it to your machine. But time will tell. Not even a release date,for it on the UK page yet, so it might never come anyway.

If all you want is iTunes Match functionality, you can pay for that and get just that. If you want iTunes Match functionality and streaming of stuff you don't own, get an Apple Music membership
 
for a mere "25 cents a day", you get to play ANY song as many times as you want that is on iTunes. Period!
That's how you sell it.
 
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Although the OS name is awful I always have found amusing English native speakers saying Spanish phrases/words :). But hey, that just me.
It wasn't so much that it's a non-English term, it's more of an in-joke. You have to be an outside (!) person to know that El Capitan is a location inside Yosemite. The naming convention was supposed to be immediately recognizable. It's like saying we're going to name our OS after great meals - cheese pizza, cheese burger, mac and cheese, and the newest is "sesame seed".

The name really came across as a big joke. I was waiting for Tim or Craig to call out "You've been Pranked!"
 
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So $9.99/month for everything Apple has? What happens to iTunes Match? They still want $25?

That's not going to work for me. That's way more than I normally spend on music.

I guess I'll be sticking to my 4 app setup for Music:

Pandora = radio

iTunes = the latest and newest of what I own

Spotify = music I want to listen to but don't own or want to buy

Google Music = cloud storage for downloading my library, but not on my device.
The $9.99/month includes everything iTunes Match does... your whole library is on the cloud.
 
I am confused.

With Spotify Premium I can search for, say "Bruce Springsteen". The search will come back with most or all of his albums. I can pick and choose which of the albums to listen to. It's wonderful.

Will Apple Music work this way?

If the tracks are included in Apples library of tens of millions then yes
 
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...anyone else turn it off when that fat bloke started dancing?
First time I've done that in a Keynote I can tell you!
 
It's good we get 3 months free to try it out, otherwise I don't see a reason to cancel the music service I have. If it only plays music similar to music you own, then I'm really not interested. I'm a person who also likes to listen to new music, something from artists I've never heard of before so I can experience new music from all kinds of genres. If this service can't provide that capability...not interested.
They didn't explain it very well, but this is essentially their Spotify. You can listen to anything in their catalog.
 
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