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10s of millions is definitely a nice big number, but not at all clear. There must be what near 50 million songs in the tunes store. So is 10s of millions 20 million?, 30 million?. If closer to the 20 millions that could be less then half of the full iTunes library. Would just be nice for a little more clarification from Apple given this a paid subscription service. The free trial will hopefully reveal a better picture.

Apple's press release says 30 million in Apple Music. If someone knew for sure how many songs in the iTunes store, that would answer the question of whether all songs are included for streaming or not. Frankly if I was an artist selling songs, I would want the choice of participating in streaming or not. Have they told artists what the royalty rate for plays is yet?
 
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It's painful to watch the demise of Apple. I mean I know they'll go on and may even have a renaissance one day, but they are definitely losing importance with all of these lackluster attempts they've been passing as developments since Steve Jobs died, and the continual degradation of the software, and now even hardware (Mac Mini), under Tim Cook.

They needed a maverick to replace Jobs.


Hear... Hear...
 
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No,it doesn't. iTunes Match is $24.99 to ONLY access songs you already own. Apple Music is $9.99 for songs you already own AND millions of songs you don't? All I'm saying is there has to be a difference in the "owned music" part of that or who would ever go for iTunes Match again at $15 more expensive for a lesser service?
Because if you just want music you own Match is $25 for a year Vs. $9.99 a month. How is it hard to see the diffrence.

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No,it doesn't. iTunes Match is $24.99 to ONLY access songs you already own. Apple Music is $9.99 for songs you already own AND millions of songs you don't? All I'm saying is there has to be a difference in the "owned music" part of that or who would ever go for iTunes Match again at $15 more expensive for a lesser service?
Apple Music is $9.99/month, iTunes Match is $24.99/year for those who don't want the unlimited music access.
 
No,it doesn't. iTunes Match is $24.99 to ONLY access songs you already own. Apple Music is $9.99 for songs you already own AND millions of songs you don't? All I'm saying is there has to be a difference in the "owned music" part of that or who would ever go for iTunes Match again at $15 more expensive for a lesser service?

Match is $25 yearly. AM is 10 monthly or 120 yearly. So 95 more per year to access the streaming library instead of just songs you already own.
 
No,it doesn't. iTunes Match is $24.99 to ONLY access songs you already own. Apple Music is $9.99 for songs you already own AND millions of songs you don't? All I'm saying is there has to be a difference in the "owned music" part of that or who would ever go for iTunes Match again at $15 more expensive for a lesser service?

You're doing the math wrong. You're comparing $9.99/month (Music) vs. $25.00/year (Match). So the better comparison is $25/year for iTunes Match vs. ~$120/year for Apple Music.
 
Because if you just want music you own Match is $25 for a year Vs. $9.99 a month. How is it hard to see the diffrence.

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Because, and it's no excuse just a reason, I'm tired having woken up early to watch the keynote. Only had 3 hours sleep. Sorry guys. :(
 
No,it doesn't. iTunes Match is $24.99 to ONLY access songs you already own. Apple Music is $9.99 for songs you already own AND millions of songs you don't? All I'm saying is there has to be a difference in the "owned music" part of that or who would ever go for iTunes Match again at $15 more expensive for a lesser service?
match is 24.99 a "year"
 
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No,it doesn't. iTunes Match is $24.99 to ONLY access songs you already own. Apple Music is $9.99 for songs you already own AND millions of songs you don't? All I'm saying is there has to be a difference in the "owned music" part of that or who would ever go for iTunes Match again at $15 more expensive for a lesser service?
You are aware that the iTunes Match subscription of $24.99 is an annual one and the Apple Music subscription of $9.99 is a monthly one? Apple music is quite a bit more expensive that ITunes Match...
 
WTH???? .....
iTunes Radio in the US = available for free in Apple Music
iTunes Radio in the UK = only available in the paid membership

and no UK prices announced yet. So I guess £9.99
This will most likely be due to the contract terms Apple have had to agree to with the record labels. It's a complex issue and as such won't really allow for parity across countries, you only have to look at the various iTunes stores, Netflix, Spotify, etc... having different content per country to see this already.
 
No,it doesn't. iTunes Match is $24.99 to ONLY access songs you already own. Apple Music is $9.99 for songs you already own AND millions of songs you don't? All I'm saying is there has to be a difference in the "owned music" part of that or who would ever go for iTunes Match again at $15 more expensive for a lesser service?
Match is $25 per _year_. Music is 9.99 per _month_, almost $120 per year. No thanks to that. But it might be offset for someone who is already paying for a streaming service (I'm not).
 
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If all you want is iTunes Match functionality, you can pay for that and get just that. If you want iTunes Match functionality and streaming of stuff you don't own, get an Apple Music membership
Yep exactly. You're paying substantially more per year for Apple Music than you are for Match, it makes sense that it would include the Match functionality.
 
What about those that don't have a lot of data each month... lets say us Canadians!
How does a streaming service effect the data use with each song? 1GB/month is not sufficient to use social media frequently AND have a stream service used to its full potential. If wi-fi was regularly available to you, then yes, I see no problem.

For those that are going to say, just add more data, thats more money to send each month, just to stream music. I'd prefer it be on my device, and available at my disposal.
 
Is it possible they didn't give a number is because they still don't have all the record companies signed yet?
That is very likely. I just don't think they would use wording like tens of millions if the true full iTunes catalog was being made available. If it were, one would think they would have had that gigantic magic number in big and bold lights up on that screen during the presentation.
 
What about those that don't have a lot of data each month... lets say us Canadians!
How does a streaming service effect the data use with each song? 1GB/month is not sufficient to use social media frequently AND have a stream service used to its full potential. If wi-fi was regularly available to you, then yes, I see no problem.

For those that are going to say, just add more data, thats more money to send each month, just to stream music. I'd prefer it be on my device, and available at my disposal.

There will be offline playback.
 
What about those that don't have a lot of data each month... lets say us Canadians!
How does a streaming service effect the data use with each song? 1GB/month is not sufficient to use social media frequently AND have a stream service used to its full potential. If wi-fi was regularly available to you, then yes, I see no problem.

For those that are going to say, just add more data, thats more money to send each month, just to stream music. I'd prefer it be on my device, and available at my disposal.
You can download at home then listen offline when you don't have wifi.
 
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Coming out of the AppleMusic presentation I had a lot of questions. For example, would it have offline syncing? Because if so, why on earth would people buy a song from the iTunes store? Turns out, yes, it does have offline syncing. Interesting.

But then I read this:

How does Apple Music know what songs are in my personal library?
With an Apple Music membership, your entire library lives in iCloud. We compare every track in your collection to the Apple Music library to see if we have a copy. If we do, you can automatically listen to it straight from the cloud. If you have music that’s not in our catalogue, we upload those songs from iTunes on your Mac or PC. It’s all in iCloud, so it won’t take up any space on your devices.​

So, to me my first thought is “Goodbye iTunes Match!”, then my second thought is, “this sucks for people like me with huge libraries, I’m going to have to pay a fortune for iCloud storage”. But then I discovered this on the very same page:

Does Apple Music work with iTunes Match?
Yes. Apple Music and iTunes Match are independent but complementary.​

Okay, that’s rather vague… So if I have iTunes Match will my songs not end up in iCloud? Will they be both? Does having iTunes Match mean I need less iCloud Drive storage space (notice no announcement of price drops today)? Is this really only going to cost me $9.99 a month?

I must say I’m intrigued by AppleMusic. I’ve been paying for Spotify premium ($9.99 by the way) for almost a year now and really like it, but don’t love the fact that my music library is fragmented between my personal collection (iTunes) and my streaming collection (Spotify). AppleMusic theoretically would integrate the two making it seamless (perhaps too seamless, like I said, who is going to actually buy albums anymore, other than idiots like me). Honestly, that’s really appealing.

But there’s a lot of questions that need to be answered (and no way to ask them). Questions I suppose will be answered when it rolls out at the end of the month.

I’ll definitely be using the 3-month trial, but we’ll have to wait and see if I stick around.
 
Now I really think Apple Music is a good product (or at least it seems like it) . More and more I get the feeling that Apple is losing its ability to explain its products to us. I still dont really now what is part of apple music and what isnt.
 
How do I loan music to someone? Give them my AppleID? Same with selling.

Com'on man. How about burn a CD? Or you can drag and drop music onto a USB drive if you consider burning CD's old technology.

If you buy the music on CDs and then rip it (which can be much cheaper than buying digital music on iTunes if you buy used CDs), all this is even easier. Just loan out or sell the CDs.

Same thing with the death you speak of. Better get your lawyer to put your AppleID in your will so your kids can download your music. We have no idea if owned digital music will play forever. Only as long as you have a working copy of iTunes and can see the files I guess.

Again, you could burn every bit of it to discs. You could drag every file out to a folder. You could convert it all to mp3 or .wav if you were worried about AAC falling out of favor. You own it so you have options. Try any of that with the rental model.
 
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