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This music presentation could have been so much better. We got ZERO vision from Jimmy or Eddy. No explanation of why Apple Music is better than the competition. No mention of iTunes, iTunes Match or iTunes Radio and how they work with Apple Music. Barely a mention that Apple Music can stream anything you can buy on iTunes (where was the demo playing a Beatles tune?). No mention of being able to cache music for playing offline. And the whole social aspect would be so much better if it integrated other social networks like Facebook, Intagram and Twitter. Just a bad overall presentation that lasted way too long and could have been so much more polished.

Well, Apple music is better than the competition because it's Apple. No need to say anything else.
 
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Wow that was a horrible presentation, I had no idea what was being presented. Reading about it though, seems like it's a spotify clone? I think I could jump from spotify to this. I've never liked spotify's UI.
With Apple's family plan totally trumping Spotify's over-priced plan I would say Music is nowhere a clone of Spotify. Plus Taylor Swift is on Music and that pissed off the Spotify CEO. While I'm not a fan of hers she most certainly has one of the largest fan bases and her songs are outselling nearly every artist. That brings in a lot of customers from Spotify to Music.
 
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this won't be any different than something like Xbox Music Pass, some of the catalog just willl be available for purchase. It will depend on the deal they have with the artist
 
Is there a quote or story about the Spotify CEO being pissed at this?
Yeah, I googled "Taylor Swift on Apple Music". Top results show a tweet from the Spotify CEO pissed that Apple "inadvertently" showed Taylor Swift as one of the top artists. lol. I didn't even notice her.
 
Yeah, I googled "Taylor Swift on Apple Music". Top results show a tweet from the Spotify CEO pissed that Apple "inadvertently" showed Taylor Swift as one of the top artists. lol. I didn't even notice her.
Apple used to be the type of company to call out its competitors (see Mac vs PC commercials). Now, they are significantly more subtle in their antagonism.
 
With Apple's family plan totally trumping Spotify's over-priced plan I would say Music is nowhere a clone of Spotify. Plus Taylor Swift is on Music and that pissed off the Spotify CEO. While I'm not a fan of hers she most certainly has one of the largest fan bases and her songs are outselling nearly every artist. That brings in a lot of customers from Spotify to Music.

Yea by competitor I meant in type of service. It really was a horrible presentation though. Looking at legacy presentations there would have been a compare with competitors showing where it trumps them.
 
It's funny reading all these comments about not paying $10 a month for the service but the same individuals probably stop at Starbucks everyday to get themselves sh!tty coffee for $7.
 
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Jason Snell said the music portion of the keynote was the worst presentation at an Apple event that he's ever seen. He called it unfocused, self-indulgent, arrogant and it went on way to long. Said the first 90 minutes of the keynote was great and this was terrible. Ouch.
 
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The presentation should've been much better, and they should've had the service ready today. But I'm still interested in Apple Music and will do the free trial. If I like it, it's goodbye Spotify.
 
Yea by competitor I meant in type of service. It really was a horrible presentation though. Looking at legacy presentations there would have been a compare with competitors showing where it trumps them.
Well how different can a streaming service really be? Different UI's and that's about it overall. So it really boils down to who's got the better content and better pricing. I don't know if Apple truly has more content but since they've been in the music business far longer than Spotify I would say they most likely have more content. Apple definitely has the better family pricing scheme and being able to use Siri call up music so easily that gives them a big leg up. Spotify better take notice quickly.
 
Does that mean we get iTunes for Android finally? Like buying iTunes music on my Galaxy?
I think that's unclear. There are conflicting reports as to whether or not iTunes/iTunes Match/Apple Music are all the same service or not. I've heard they're "complimentary" services, leading me to believe it may only be Apple Music that is available on Android, not your iTunes match library.
 
The presentation should've been much better, and they should've had the service ready today. But I'm still interested in Apple Music and will do the free trial. If I like it, it's goodbye Spotify.
I'm pretty sure they would've released it today but I'm willing to bet they don't have all artists on board that they are trying to acquire as of yet.
 
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Well how different can a streaming service really be? Different UI's and that's about it overall. So it really boils down to who's got the better content and better pricing. I don't know if Apple truly has more content but since they've been in the music business far longer than Spotify I would say they most likely have more content. Apple definitely has the better family pricing scheme and being able to use Siri call up music so easily that gives them a big leg up. Spotify better take notice quickly.

The music discovery features differ. Spotify has artist radio/playlist radio, with thumb up and thumb down to supposedly improve the station. Tidal just has a very rudimentary radio feature. Apple's going to have Beats 1.

But other than that, yeah it really boils down to catalog and pricing.
 
The music discovery features differ. Spotify has artist radio/playlist radio, with thumb up and thumb down to supposedly improve the station. Tidal just has a very rudimentary radio feature. Apple's going to have Beats 1.

But other than that, yeah it really boils down to catalog and pricing.
I'm wondering where Tidal fits in with all of this? Not sure about it's catalog.
 
How has it been marketed since it was announced earlier today?

Dunno. How has it been "better" given that it's not even live? Simply because "it's Apple"? Obviously Apple has had plenty of successful products, but they're not all golden. Ping, anyone? I hope the today's presentation wasn't any indication of the actual leadership and oversight of the product team. What a mess.
 
Good point. It could be the case that we are limited in what we can access.

Here is the major news that is being skipped in all the hype from the verge:

The Apple Music library is very different from the iTunes store. And that's a critical distinction; what you're not getting is an all-you-can-eat listening feast that pulls in everything iTunes has to offer. If that were the case, that 30 million figure would balloon to an enormous figure. So the iTunes store and regular old music purchases remain a significant piece of the puzzle. Apple describes it as "the heart" of everything, because without iTunes, this catalog would look awfully similar to Spotify's.
 
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