Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Wait, what? Sorry for being dense, but are you saying that if I get iTunes match, apple uploads my whole catalog of songs (the ones bought through iTunes and the ones bought on Amazon or pirated) and it will give me the 256Kbps version of those songs it finds in their library? And if I cancel iTunes match, the 256Kbps versions will be mine to keep? What am I missing here? Thanks in advance.
That is correct. Edit: To be clear, they don't just give it to you. They let you stream it. However, you can delete your local copy and download the matched 256kbps version and then you may keep that.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Cevap
Wait, what? Sorry for being dense, but are you saying that if I get iTunes match, apple uploads my whole catalog of songs (the ones bought through iTunes and the ones bought on Amazon or pirated) and it will give me the 256Kbps version of those songs it finds in their library? And if I cancel iTunes match, the 256Kbps versions will be mine to keep? What am I missing here? Thanks in advance.
The answer is yes, you can do that. You can upgrade your entire library to 256Kbps iTunes Plus format for $25. Plenty of information online about doing that--check it out (since MR doesn't like us to link on here or something)
 
  • Like
Reactions: Cevap
I wouldn't doubt yourself since he's just making assumptions. Apple was very vague, so we're all a bit confused.

Ok, so it's one of two scenarios:
1) They were "vague" because they don't want to tell the disappointing truth.
2) They mistakenly left out this important fact because the presentation was even more poorly prepared than it seemed.

Seriously, if Apple Music contains the entire iTunes library, then what reason would Apple possibly have to hide this fact? Seems like a pretty simple and compelling piece of marketing.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Benjamin Frost
The jury is still out on that. You will at least be able to stream on-demand a large portion of what is on iTunes.
Spotify lets you stream 20 million songs. Beats has 30 million. There are roughly that amount currently in iTunes worldwide. It would make zero sense for Apple not to give access to those songs if they're trying to compete with Spotify.


Ok, so it's one of two scenarios:
1) They were "vague" because they don't want to tell the disappointing truth.
2) They mistakenly left out this important fact because the presentation was even more poorly prepared than it seemed.

Seriously, if Apple Music contains the entire iTunes library, then what reason would Apple possibly have to hide this fact? Seems like a pretty simple and compelling piece of marketing.
I think it was just a ****** presentation.
 
Spotify lets you stream 20 million songs. Beats has 30 million. There are roughly that amount currently in iTunes worldwide. It would make zero sense for Apple not to give access to those songs if they're trying to compete with Spotify.
Agreed. They're not the original player on this. They have to convince people to move over from other services.
 
Spotify lets you stream 20 million songs. Beats has 30 million. There are roughly that amount currently in iTunes worldwide. It would make zero sense for Apple not to give access to those songs if they're trying to compete with Spotify.



I think it was just a ****** presentation.

Zero sense..... except for those pesky legal contracts with the studios and artists.

By the way, Spotify has over 30 million songs:
https://press.spotify.com/us/information/
 
  • Like
Reactions: Avalontor
Do I get a discount with iTunes Match? If not I think I'll cancel iTunes Match and just get Apple Music

This is on the Apple Music page:

How does Apple Music know what songs are in my personal library?

With an Apple Music membership, your entire library lives in iCloud. We compare every track in your collection to the Apple Music library to see if we have a copy. If we do, you can automatically listen to it straight from the cloud. If you have music that’s not in our catalog, we upload those songs from iTunes on your Mac or PC. It’s all in iCloud, so it won’t take up any space on your devices.​

Sounds to me like if you are an Apple Music subscriber, you don't need to pay for iTunes Match, as the service will offer that same feature. Hopefully, they just transfer it over and don't completely re-upload everything. I'd have to think that's the case.
 
I'll give this a try. The presentation was confusing but I'm not so far deep into Spotify that I can't try something else. The integration with iOS will be a huge selling point for me as 95% of my Spotify listening is on iPhone/iPad.

It's nothing groundbreaking but I'm not sure what people were expecting. There isn't much else a streaming music service can do.

I think this could be huge because Apple will be sure to expose the millions who own and use Apple products that these sort of services exist. Outside of the tech demographic, many people still have no clue these streaming services exist. Pandora is still the primary thing a lot of people use to listen to music and I think once people learn you can stream almost anything for the price of lunch, there will be a lot of new customers.
 
This is on the Apple Music page:
How does Apple Music know what songs are in my personal library?

With an Apple Music membership, your entire library lives in iCloud. We compare every track in your collection to the Apple Music library to see if we have a copy. If we do, you can automatically listen to it straight from the cloud. If you have music that’s not in our catalog, we upload those songs from iTunes on your Mac or PC. It’s all in iCloud, so it won’t take up any space on your devices.​

Sounds to me like if you are an Apple Music subscriber, you don't need to pay for iTunes Match, as the service will offer that same feature. Hopefully, they just transfer it over and don't completely re-upload everything. I'd have to think that's the case.
Sounds like the only point of keeping iTunes Match is for well... the matching service for ripped songs. I don't use that feature. I'm canceling.
 



Apple today announced Apple Music, an all-in-one app for discovering, listening to and sharing music. Apple Music is both a streaming music service and 24-hour live radio station, in addition to a platform for artists to share lyrics, backstage photos, videos or latest songs for fans to comment on and share through social media.

Apple-Music-iOS-9.jpg

Apple Music's streaming music service enables users to search and stream millions of songs from iTunes, with human curated playlists from music experts for improved personalization over algorithmically created playlists. Apple Music will be available for iPhone, iPad, Mac and PC on June 30, with support for Apple TV and Android coming in the fall.

Apple's new 24-hour global radio station called Beats 1 will be broadcast live in over 100 countries, headlined by former BBC radio DJ Zane Lowe alongside other famous DJs from Los Angeles, New York and London such as Ebro Darden and Julie Adenuga. Beats 1 will offer exclusive interviews, guest hosts and keep tabs on what is going on in the music world.

Apple Music Connect is the social platform built into Apple Music that allows users to connect with artists and share their favorite songs and albums through Facebook, Twitter, iMessage and email. Apple hopes that Apple Music Connect will help not only major artists, but ones that are indie or relatively unknown, more easily promote their music and engage with their fans.

Apple-Music-Availability-800x181.png

Apple Music will be available on June 30 for iPhone and iPad on iOS 8.4 and Mac and PC through iTunes for $9.99 per month, with a three-month free trial and $14.99 per month family plan for up to six people available. Apple Music for Apple TV and Android will be available this fall. Beats 1 ad-supported stations can be listened to for free without a subscription.

Article Link: Apple Announces 'Apple Music' With 'Beats 1' Live Radio Station, Launches June 30 for $9.99/Month



Apple today announced Apple Music, an all-in-one app for discovering, listening to and sharing music. Apple Music is both a streaming music service and 24-hour live radio station, in addition to a platform for artists to share lyrics, backstage photos, videos or latest songs for fans to comment on and share through social media.

Apple-Music-iOS-9.jpg

Apple Music's streaming music service enables users to search and stream millions of songs from iTunes, with human curated playlists from music experts for improved personalization over algorithmically created playlists. Apple Music will be available for iPhone, iPad, Mac and PC on June 30, with support for Apple TV and Android coming in the fall.

Apple's new 24-hour global radio station called Beats 1 will be broadcast live in over 100 countries, headlined by former BBC radio DJ Zane Lowe alongside other famous DJs from Los Angeles, New York and London such as Ebro Darden and Julie Adenuga. Beats 1 will offer exclusive interviews, guest hosts and keep tabs on what is going on in the music world.

Apple Music Connect is the social platform built into Apple Music that allows users to connect with artists and share their favorite songs and albums through Facebook, Twitter, iMessage and email. Apple hopes that Apple Music Connect will help not only major artists, but ones that are indie or relatively unknown, more easily promote their music and engage with their fans.

Apple-Music-Availability-800x181.png

Apple Music will be available on June 30 for iPhone and iPad on iOS 8.4 and Mac and PC through iTunes for $9.99 per month, with a three-month free trial and $14.99 per month family plan for up to six people available. Apple Music for Apple TV and Android will be available this fall. Beats 1 ad-supported stations can be listened to for free without a subscription.

Article Link: Apple Announces 'Apple Music' With 'Beats 1' Live Radio Station, Launches June 30 for $9.99/Month
Looks good to me! It does seem amazing! I cannot wait to try it out! Good job, Apple! Yeah!!!
 
Not sure if this was answered in the keynote or comments. If I subscribe to Apple Music and find a band/album I really like, can I purchase it from the Music app? Or would I have to buy through the iTunes app on iOS (or through iTunes store on Mac)?

So, songs are also stored on iCloud so I can access my playlists, etc, on any iOS or Mac device. Does this use up my iCloud storage? (I'm assuming no). I wish Apple would increase the base storage for iCloud.

I will try the 3 month trial then go from there. But right now, I will 80% switch from Spotify to Apple Music. I think the integration with iOS is just too much to look past. Also, Taylor Swift.
 
Sounds like the only point of keeping iTunes Match is for well... the matching service for ripped songs. I don't use that feature. I'm canceling.

I wouldn't cancel just yet. :)

But it seems like iTunes Match will be there for people who don't subscribe to Apple Music. It's still (IMO) a worthwhile option in that case. But yeah, if you subscribe to Apple Music, I can't imagine a reason to stick with iTunes Match.

Hopefully, Apple can improve the matching ability of the service. I still only have half my library matched, when I should have most of it matched.
 
I wouldn't cancel just yet. :)

But it seems like iTunes Match will be there for people who don't subscribe to Apple Music. It's still (IMO) a worthwhile option in that case. But yeah, if you subscribe to Apple Music, I can't imagine a reason to stick with iTunes Match.

Hopefully, Apple can improve the matching ability of the service. I still only have half my library matched, when I should have most of it matched.
Seems kind of pointless to keep it due to this:


What happens to my iTunes library?
Your iTunes library is still yours. You can access your entire collection from Apple Music or the iTunes app on Mac or PC.


It's also important to note that all your playlists and custom stuff from Beats will be moved to Apple Music. If you have a Beats membership you can change it to an Apple Music one.
 
Spotify lets you stream 20 million songs. Beats has 30 million. There are roughly that amount currently in iTunes worldwide. It would make zero sense for Apple not to give access to those songs if they're trying to compete with Spotify.
It's not up to Apple alone. They need contracts with the rights owners that allow them to stream the music. The question is whether they have such contracts with all studios that offer music for purchase on the iTunes store.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Avalontor
It's not up to Apple alone. They need contracts with the rights owners that allow them to stream the music. The question is whether they have such contracts with all studios who offer music for purchase on the iTunes store.
Yeah, that'll be a big determining factor.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Avalontor
No, Radio is just one component of Apple Music. You can stream any song available in iTunes.

I'm inclined to agree with you, but that isn't what I got from the Keynote. Apple.com/music isn't very clear on the statement either. They say:

Wherever your music comes from — purchased in the iTunes Store, ripped from a rare import CD, or downloaded from your favorite music blog — everything you’ve collected lives in one place. And alongside it is the ever-expanding Apple Music library. It’s like having just about every song ever recorded at your fingertips.

If "Apple Music library" is the same as "all music sold in the iTunes Music Store", then why not say that? Why not be crystal clear on the issue? Why say "purchased in the iTunes Store" and "ever-expanding Apple Music library" are different things if they are referring to the same experience.

I don't want to suggest there is some conspiracy or anything, but it's not very Apple like to leave any possible confusion.
 
Apple Music Library != entire iTunes Store library. There are plenty of record labels/bands/artists who would really like to see streaming just go away. Pink Floyd is one of those bands. And they're not exactly an unknown thing.
True, many artists would like to see streaming go away, but Pink Floyd? Their entire catalog is on Rdio (don't know about Spotify). Let's talk about Tool . . .
 
  • Like
Reactions: Avalontor
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.