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Apple Announces 'Apple Music' With 'Beats 1' Live Radio Station, Launches June 30 for $9.99/Month

Frumious B said:
So what happens if you sign up for Apple Music and your personal library is bigger than 25,000 songs?
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Mines already done that, one of the reasons why I dropped iTunes Match.
If iTunes Music does the same thing, then $10/m vs $25/y seems like a raw deal.
I guess it's the extra value you might get from recommended artists and tracks you do not have in your already exhaustive library.
 
If your personal library is 25,000 songs and none of them are available in the iTunes/Apple Music catalog, then you probably have the most unique 25,000-song library ever.
 
I sure hope that if I sign up for Apple Music, it will just grab my iTunes Match files and not make me go through the entire scanning/upload process again. I have so much music that iTunes does not (and all ripped in Apple Lossless format), that it took 3.5 days for iTunes Match to down convert then upload the music. That sucked.
 
Razeus said:
Looks like I'll be cancelling Spotify June 30.

Does this come with iTunes Match???????????
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It looks like Apple Music includes the features of Match, but those who don't want Apple Music can keep Match. What is unclear is what music (besides your own) will be available with Match.
 
iBug2 said:
So let me get this straight, when this launches, we will be able to stream everything in the iTunes music store, for free, for 3 months? LOL
People will be listening to a lot of free music in those 3 months.
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The idea is that after three months, they decide they like it and hand over $9.99 a month. For the rest of their lives. I think Apple should think of the future pensioners who don't have that much income. With an offer "if you pay for 40 years then it is free after that as long as you live..."
 
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sorry, not much time for investigating/watching the keynote/etc.

can someone tell me what happens to current beats subscribers when this new service is released? as in, will my current plan be extended by 3 months (because of the 3 month free trial they're offering)..

will beats.app be replaced by the new app or will both apps install side-by-side? (as in.. is beats.app no longer an app once this new one is released?)
thanks
 
flat five said:
sorry, not much time for investigating/watching the keynote/etc.

can someone tell me what happens to current beats subscribers when this new service is released? as in, will my current plan be extended by 3 months (because of the 3 month free trial they're offering)..

will beats.app be replaced by the new app or will both apps install side-by-side? (as in.. is beats.app no longer an app once this new one is released?)
thanks
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Looks like you miss out on the three month free trial.

What happens to my Beats Music service?

Once Apple Music launches on June 30, you can easily move your current Beats Music subscription over to Apple Music. Just open Beats Music on your iOS device and you’ll be prompted to join Apple Music. Once you’ve signed up, the playlists you’ve created or subscribed to and the albums you’ve saved in your Beats Music library will all be available to you in Apple Music.
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http://www.beatsmusic.com/faq
 
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HobeSoundDarryl said:
Is there any advantage to owning anything rather than renting it? Renting is a forever drain on your wallet such that when you stop paying you own NOTHING. Owning is a one-time drain and you own it up to forever... or you can loan or sell it to someone else... and you can will it to someone else when you die. Owned music may be higher quality, cannot slip in an ad model between songs, etc. Owned music will play as long as you have battery; streamed will need an internet connection or it will eventually run out of stuff to play.
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The details are not very clear yet. If I understand it right, you can add any music (playlists, songs, albums) to your library and download them at home or where you have a cheap WiFi connection. I would assume all that music disappears if you stop paying. Right now your library either says "Purchased" (Purchased from Apple) or "Not Purchased" (Mostly purchased elsewhere, for example on CD or from Amazon, unless it's pirated). You will have a third category "Subscribed" which will disappear when you stop paying.

I'd hope there would be an option for streaming at lower bit rate - I like 256 KBit, but not when I have to pay for the phone bill! And I'd hope there is a simple and quick way to change what music is on your iPhone when you are at home.

About the "forever drain": If you are 18, it will cost you $7,200 if you keep this for 60 years until you are 78. (Seriously request to Apple: Make it free forever for anyone who paid 40 years...). I'm sure I spent more than that on music.

OllyW said:
Not a great incentive if you are already in your 50's. :D
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True. On the other hand, I have a huge collection of music, which will always be mine. An alternative would be that you can purchase one album a month for one cent as long as you are subscribed, and keep that album forever.
 
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gnasher729 said:
The idea is that after three months, they decide they like it and hand over $9.99 a month. For the rest of their lives. I think Apple should think of the future pensioners who don't have that much income. With an offer "if you pay for 40 years then it is free after that as long as you live..."
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In 40 years, there won't be pensions. And also, Apple is not responsible for user financial mismanagement. When we are old, Apple won't do is on our demo anymore.
 
Gameboy70 said:
True, many artists would like to see streaming go away, but Pink Floyd? Their entire catalog is on Rdio (don't know about Spotify). Let's talk about Tool . . .
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Pink Floyd has all their albums on Spotify. Metallica (another of the streaming/digital critics) as well.

No Beatles on Spotify though, but they won't be available for streaming on Apple Music either.

I don't see the lack of a few artists being a big deal these days - if you really really want music from a certain band (and not just to use it as an argument online even though you never listen to them...) you could always buy it digitally or physically and include it in your Apple / Spotify setup. Spotify of course have support for local files on your hard drive in addition to the streaming library, people tend to act as if an artist isn't available for streaming or buying online you are locked out of that artists music for good. This is of course not true, you can listen to them through the same software as you use for streaming if you actually own their music.
 
McCool71 said:
Pink Floyd has all their albums on Spotify. Metallica (to name another of the streaming/digital critics) as well.

No Beatles on Spotify though, but they won't be available for streaming on Apple Music either.

I don't see the lack of a few artists being a big deal these days - if you really really want music from a certain band (and not just to use it as an argument online even though you never listen to them...) you could always buy it digitally or physically and include it in your Apple / Spotify setup. Spotify of course have support for local files on your hard drive in addition to the streaming library, people tend to act as if an artist isn't available you are locked out of that artists music for godd. This is of course not true.
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I'm not so sure the Beatles will not be available on AM. Lets wait to see on 6/30. You can't make a definitive statement yet.
 
I understand the family deal for 14.99.

Question is, if I get the 9.99 plan and I log in with the same ID will it work simultaneously on multiple devices?
 
whsbuss said:
I'm not so sure the Beatles will not be available on AM. Lets wait to see on 6/30. You can't make a definitive statement yet.
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Of course things might change, but right now it is obvious that they do not have them on board for streaming.

I am leaning towards The Verge's take on this:

Consumers are about to learn a confusing lesson: Apple Music and the vast iTunes Music Store catalog are not equal. ...what you're not getting is an all-you-can-eat listening feast that pulls in everything iTunes has to offer

http://www.theverge.com/2015/6/8/8745963/the-beatles-apple-music


Considering the major spectacle Apple made when The Beatles first allowed to be sold digitally I am sure they would have mentioned it if AM was the first place they would be available for streaming.

I always found the Beatles focus a bit odd though - I don't know a single person younger than 50 that has even a slight interest in listening to The Beatles, so for the vast majority of AM/Spotify/anyservice customer it is really a non-issue. It is like complaining that your local restaurant does not serve fish even though you never ever eat fish.
 
I'm guessing that it will work on any devices you are signed in on, just not at the same time (thus the inclusion of up to 6 people under the family plan). That's generally how all the paid, on-demand streaming services work...

thekayman said:
I understand the family deal for 14.99.

Question is, if I get the 9.99 plan and I log in with the same ID will it work simultaneously on multiple devices?
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HeyLammy said:
Such a shame Jimmy's presentation was so poor, made me uncomfortable watching. Then when he didn't get the reference to the original iPhone Keynote o_O! Cringe.
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It was a little uncomfortable, but so were the original Tim Cook keynotes. I said this in a different thread, but unless you are a presenter for a living (none of these Apple people are), there are rough spots in public speaking.
 
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McCool71 said:
Pink Floyd has all their albums on Spotify. Metallica (another of the streaming/digital critics) as well.

No Beatles on Spotify though, but they won't be available for streaming on Apple Music either.

I don't see the lack of a few artists being a big deal these days - if you really really want music from a certain band (and not just to use it as an argument online even though you never listen to them...) you could always buy it digitally or physically and include it in your Apple / Spotify setup. Spotify of course have support for local files on your hard drive in addition to the streaming library, people tend to act as if an artist isn't available for streaming or buying online you are locked out of that artists music for good. This is of course not true, you can listen to them through the same software as you use for streaming if you actually own their music.
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Seriously...who doesn't own all of the Beatles albums?
 
UhFive said:
Does this work just like Spotify, where you can create playlist from their library and save it offline?

Edit: http://www.apple.com/music/discover/
Yes, Apple Music is a Spotify clone. You get unlimited access to the entire iTunes library, where you can select songs to "Add to your collection". So long as you keep paying, the music stays in your collection.
Not sure if you can directly add music to playlist, or if you have to save it to your collection before it can be added...
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If it's as good as this link makes out, it really is a paradigm shift.

I like 'owning' music, and supplementing this with a streaming service (currently Spotify) to try out new stuff. This will change everything...
 
Was there really a point in acquiring Beats for this? Apple obviously still had a lot of work to do get it to where it is. I wonder how much of Beats is going to be a part of Apple Music.
 
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AustinIllini said:
It was a little uncomfortable, but so were the original Tim Cook keynotes. I said this in a different thread, but unless you are a presenter for a living (none of these Apple people are), there are rough spots in public speaking.
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I think they should have taken advantage of Zane Lowe's presenting skills and used him as the lead speaker during the Music introduction.
 
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