Yes, no technical limitations. I'm sure 99% of the people on these boards could easily pirate it or have multiple macs and could just by the single kit, but I know alot of people in my own circle who buy family packs and have bought every version of OS X out cuz its so cheap. Apple's already made their money off of us, but if they give it away for free MS will use that as munitions in their latest "i'm a pc" crap campaigns.
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Apple Announces August 28th Availability of Snow Leopard
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Yes, no technical limitations. I'm sure 99% of the people on these boards could easily pirate it or have multiple macs and could just by the single kit, but I know alot of people in my own circle who buy family packs and have bought every version of OS X out cuz its so cheap. Apple's already made their money off of us, but if they give it away for free MS will use that as munitions in their latest "i'm a pc" crap campaigns.
Clean install
I know this won't be known until the discs ship but... I'd be shocked if Apple didn't allow a clean install with upgrade media. One may want to upgrade now but what about in a year from know when you want a fresh install of SL?
Maybe it's wishful thinking but It seems very Microsoft-like to make you install Leopard just to then install SL over it. Apple trusts customers with its family pack licenses so why wouldn't it trust it's customers with the upgrade media?
I know this won't be known until the discs ship but... I'd be shocked if Apple didn't allow a clean install with upgrade media. One may want to upgrade now but what about in a year from know when you want a fresh install of SL?
Maybe it's wishful thinking but It seems very Microsoft-like to make you install Leopard just to then install SL over it. Apple trusts customers with its family pack licenses so why wouldn't it trust it's customers with the upgrade media?
And your Karma hits an all time low. Don't complain to us when the Universe seeks reparations....
I hope so too. I purchased Leopard Family pack because I have a PPC machine, but I would rather have had the Snow Leopard family pack so I could reinstall from scratch on my newer machines. I wish they would have offered a Combo family pack that allowed for only 5 installs, but provided both Snow Leopard and Leopard media.
I can confirm this works for the 432 beta
However there isn't an option as such - I just used the Erase function in Disk Util - then did a clean install on to my now blank drive
Which suggests all these people without Leopard won't need to buy the Box Set - I think you only need get this if you actually want iLife and iWork
To anyone that ordered via amazon-
You will NOT receive SL on Friday. The arrival will be determined by your shipping choice. For example I chose two-day shipping so I will likely get it on Tuesday of NEXT WEEK. Apparently sometimes Amazon does same day delivery of new release products, but its only done for very special occasions
You will NOT receive SL on Friday. The arrival will be determined by your shipping choice. For example I chose two-day shipping so I will likely get it on Tuesday of NEXT WEEK. Apparently sometimes Amazon does same day delivery of new release products, but its only done for very special occasions
Snow Leopard shipping to Africa?
I live in Malawi, central Africa
. Neither Apple.com nor Amazon.co.uk will ship Snow Leopard here (Apple doesnt ship any products to a PO address, and Amazon for some reason will not ship any software here, even though I regularly purchase books from them).
Does anyone know of any other reliable sites that I can post a pre-order whom may ship to Africa? I realise that I'm probably not gonna have it arrive on Friday, but I have been anxiously awaiting this release, and will not be in Europe for almost a year.
I suppose worst case scenario I could ship it to my aunts address in italy and have her DHL it to me, but if anyone knows of other solutions I would be grateful. Thanks
I live in Malawi, central Africa
. Neither Apple.com nor Amazon.co.uk will ship Snow Leopard here (Apple doesnt ship any products to a PO address, and Amazon for some reason will not ship any software here, even though I regularly purchase books from them).Does anyone know of any other reliable sites that I can post a pre-order whom may ship to Africa? I realise that I'm probably not gonna have it arrive on Friday, but I have been anxiously awaiting this release, and will not be in Europe for almost a year.
I suppose worst case scenario I could ship it to my aunts address in italy and have her DHL it to me, but if anyone knows of other solutions I would be grateful. Thanks
So I'll either get it pre-installed on my MacBook Pro 13" if I order it today, or I'll get with a drop in disk? All in all I won't have to wait plus pay $10?
I have installed the 432 build on a brand new partition that was completely wiped before installation.
Yes I did
Though this was erased independently (via disk util) then the install was commenced via the installer
I live in Malawi, central Africa
Does anyone know of any other reliable sites that I can post a pre-order whom may ship to Africa? I realise that I'm probably not gonna have it arrive on Friday, but I have been anxiously awaiting this release, and will not be in Europe for almost a year.
I suppose worst case scenario I could ship it to my aunts address in italy and have her DHL it to me, but if anyone knows of other solutions I would be grateful. Thanks
Did you try this: http://www.apple.com/za/
You won't get a drop-in-disc until the 28th or after, and it won't be preinstalled for a few weeks
My plan is to install Leopard, and then immediately throw Snow Leopard in.
Based on past experience I should be able to do a clean install of Snow Leopard, since Installer recognizes a install of Leopard on my MacBook.
That's my plan, at least. I'll be pretty bummed if I can't do that.
Based on past experience I should be able to do a clean install of Snow Leopard, since Installer recognizes a install of Leopard on my MacBook.
That's my plan, at least. I'll be pretty bummed if I can't do that.
It's possible that they have a different "upgrade" build that will be shipped out to customers that includes additional checking. Very unlikely, but possible.
Note necessarily. It's already done a check of your drive to see if Leopard is there.
This is a post over at Gizmodo.com, with the pic coming from Gawker's server. Hopefully it lasts. Thanks to Leonard Nimrod for the post.
And thanks to loslosbaby for this:
08/22/09
I’m going to break this down because this should be really simple **** yet despite this having been discussed for months now, ad nauseam, Giz can’t even get it right.
— The ONLY systems that will default to a 64-bit kernel are the Xserves.
— ALL Macs will default to the 32-bit kernel.
— Even if you have a C2D or other 64-bit CPU you may not have an option to even launch with a 64-bit kernel, regardless if you use the 6-4 keys or use Terminal to edit the boot options. (edit: you can force 64-bit booting by holding the 6 and 4 keys while starting up, and even if you don't, those machines will still be able to run 64-bit programs without trouble. You can also type. sudo -s (enter your password) then type nvram boot-args="arch=x86_64" (hit enter) in terminal and this will boot it with a 64-bit kernel. To change it back to 32bit just leave args="" blank)
Here is the list of "capable" Macs:
Note, that If your Mac has a model number newer than what is listed then you, too, will be able to boot using the 64-bit kernel.
— When you use a 64-bit kernel you then have to use 64-bit drivers.
—— This is why the Xserve, which will likely have no oddball or legacy peripherals connected to it default to the 64-bit kernel, though you can use the 32-bit kernel if there is a driver issue. ——Macs use a lot of different drivers from 3rd-parties for peripherals so it’s the user’s best interest to default to the 32-bit kernel.
— All the 64-bit drivers Apple is releasing are "universal" in that they are both 32-bti and 64-bit. Apple has been trying to get others to do the same.
— This was the expected result for the consumer HW since the initial announcement. Nothing ha changed!
— The only caveat is why don’t certain Macs have, at least, the option to load the 64-bit kernel. I have a 13" MBP with only the Nvidia 9400M and I can’t load the 64-bit kernel. Apparently it’s only for dual GPU MB/MBPs right now, despite me having a 64-bit CPU, 64-bit chipset and 64-bit EFI. (THE LACK OF THE OPTION IS THE ONLY MYSTERY!!!)
— 64-bit apps are the default and you can choose a 32-bit version of that app if you go into Get Info and check the box for 32-bit.
— 64-bit Safari 4.0.3 on Snow Leopard gets a 440ms on SunSpider, while 32-bit Safari 4.0.3 on Leopard does it in 880ms. In comparison a couple weeks ago Chromium was saying how it’s so much faster than Safari on Leoaprd with a 660ms score.
—— 64-bit kernel or apps does not automatically mean that apps will be faster, they may even be slower for certain tasks. This depends heavily on many factors that are too complex for this site and this already long post.
And thanks to loslosbaby for this:
Whose to say disk util didn't write something onto your hard drive that told the installer that it's a valid install location after the erase?
Unless they change the installer since the last Developer Seed was released, which is possible if one of these new "mystery" builds are in fact real. No one has yet confirmed what the actual build of the GM release is.
I will say, that I did not burn the image to a DL DVD, nor did I use DiskUtility to Restore the image to another drive. For all I know, I may have "skipped" the Leopard check.
I know that and I seen them already. But because it is now released (well in pre-order), I though Apple would have held at least a private media event to announce it, and I cannot find anything sort of video showing it.
But thanks for you reply
So just to be clear, there is NOT any definitive info about whether 10.5 needs to be installed, or if 10.6 can be installed to a blank drive, right?
Enough with the wild guesses and assumptions, people - we can all do that ourselves. And trying to pass off your guess as fact is beyond useless.
So we're going to have to wait until someone actually gets their hands on a retail disk, right? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Enough with the wild guesses and assumptions, people - we can all do that ourselves. And trying to pass off your guess as fact is beyond useless.
So we're going to have to wait until someone actually gets their hands on a retail disk, right? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned...
If the retail disk really isn't a full install, but some other disk is (like the one in the box set), isn't apple just giving an incentive to pirate it anyway? Afterall, why pay cash and end up with something that's less convenient than what the pirates are getting? It's punishing paying customers.
If the retail disk really isn't a full install, but some other disk is (like the one in the box set), isn't apple just giving an incentive to pirate it anyway? Afterall, why pay cash and end up with something that's less convenient than what the pirates are getting? It's punishing paying customers.