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This is a post over at Gizmodo.com, with the pic coming from Gawker's server. Hopefully it lasts. Thanks to Leonard Nimrod for the post.



And thanks to loslosbaby for this:

A couple of weeks ago I read in MacFixIt that Mac Pro (early 2008- MacPro3,1) having the NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT card would be able to use 64 bit apps. This is different from your chart/table.

(Apologies if this doesn't reference the correct comment. It was by madog, and I believe it was page 33.)
 
I think the Tiger box is the best. Leopard was just cheesy. I like the Snow Leopard box....

Leave it to us Mac users to debate the box. However, there's something about the original Aqua 10.0 box that I love. It came out at the height of Apple's turnaround and experiment with colors.

Pixar actually did the fur on 10.2 box.

I like the Leopard box, not really a fan of the Snow Leopard box. They should have went back to 10.2's design with a snow fur X if they wanted to bring in elements of the actual cat.

It's interesting that all boxes except 10.2 and 10.6 incorporated a feature in their design.

10.0 - Aqua gumdrop GUI
10.3 - Brushed metal interface (Finder, etc)
10.4 - Spotlight
10.5 - Time Machine
 
One thing I haven't seen mentioned...

If the retail disk really isn't a full install, but some other disk is (like the one in the box set), isn't apple just giving an incentive to pirate it anyway? Afterall, why pay cash and end up with something that's less convenient than what the pirates are getting? It's punishing paying customers.

I haven't seen a "normal" SL disk on Apple's site; just the upgrade/box versions. I also asked the same question earlier that may have been lost to this growing thread.

I don't ever do this for OS's, especially so for my beloved Mac, but for all of the system reinstalls I do (and suggest to others) if there isn't a convenient method to perform a clean install on the upgrade version, or if they don't release a standard full version by itself, then I most likely will be forced to obtain the Box Set version through other methods. I already purchased iLife/iWork 09 and will in no way purchase them again to obtain what should have been released in the first place.

There is still hope as I do not have all of the facts, but having to install Leopard first every time wouldn't be worth my time.
 
Apple might have plans for ditching the "X" altogether, they have been using it 10.0 -- 10.5 extensively. That's six revisions! :eek:

Still, I don't believe there's going to be "Mac OS XI" (or Mac OS 11) but if they're moving away from "Max OS X" (or Mac OS 10 if you prefer), they're going to use something very different, as in System 7 --> Mac OS 8.
 
I'm thinking I have to buy the Mac Box Set. I bought a Mac Pro off eBay and the person I bought it from just installed a fresh copy of Leopard on my machine. The person however didn't send the original restore discs. So I don't have a DVD copy of Leopard. I don't want the upgrade disk in case I want to do a clean install in the future. I would rather just get the Box Set, so I have something that will for sure install clean. :confused:
 
haha the normal side of me is thinking" so what its just anther piece of software". But the geek side of me is havin a freak out haha i cant wait :D just to make sure best buy will sell it right?
 
Just ordered. The question is, when will John Siracusa publish his extensive review of Snow Leopard on Ars Technica :confused: Could someone ask him on Twitter, because I don't have an account ...
 
Not a hoax.



Not a hoax.

But it is. For a lot of Mac owners nothing will change. My iMac 7,1 is not supported, but is capable of running 64 kernel and I currently have 6 GB RAM (4+2). I can run 64 bit apps with Leopard. Thre is more to it. No ZFS. Where is Image Boot? Features just started to vanish and in the end Apple strikes with list of capable machines to run 64bit kernel which is shorter than short. Just my opinion.
 
Ugh, that attitude is becoming all too prevalent even in the US I'm sorry to report. "Hey, that grocery store makes BIG money, they won't miss some grapes/a box of cereal/a shopping cart".

Pathetic but more and more common. Oh, and I know "It's not a physical theft, I'm merely going back on a contract, so the only real damage is to my honor".

Or "honour" as the case may be. :>}

With the 'u' thanks!

Honour is subjective, I don't feel sharing software in a household is wrong. Illegal yes, but not wrong in by opinion. I don't like downloading, but as far as I'm concerned once a disk is purchased the purchaser is free to do want they want with it in their house, provided it is not a criminal use.

It's not like stealing food without paying... it is like buying one apple and planting the seeds to grow a tree. Now, is that wrong? Does the supermarket have the right to control how you use it? I'd say no, provided you don't sell the fruit on.
 
Snow Leopard Delivered Friday?

Is anyone gonna take a chance and order online and hope they get it friday? I think I'll have take a trip to my local apple store and make sure I get it friday.
 
regarding up-to-date orders

Here's my chat with an Apple Store guy:

You are chatting with Justin R, an Apple Expert
APPL: Hi, my name is Justin R. Welcome to Apple!
ME: hi. do you know when Up-to-Date Snow Leopard pre-orders are scheduled to ship?
APPL: Yes, they will ship on Friday, if you complete the process online today.
ME: even the up-to-date pre-orders? i ordered mine on the 21st so I should be fine, right?
APPL: Correct.
APPL: Was there anything else I can assist you with today?
ME: nope. thanks.

Even the Apple Store guys aren't agreeing on what's going on!
 
Is anyone gonna take a chance and order online and hope they get it friday? I think I'll have take a trip to my local apple store and make sure I get it friday.

It says delivered on Aug. 28, so it will be delivered Friday. That's the way it worked for Leopard.
 
For a lot of Mac owners nothing will change.
Well they rewrote most of the standard GUI apps (like Finder) in 64 bit. Please forgive Apple for that. They never said clearly in their OS X page that their "64 bit" mean "64 bit kernel," right? Their "64 bit" means "64 bit userland," apparently.

Anyway it's just $30 which you might spend in one fancy dinner. As a geek I would rather spend that amount of money to an OS :D
 
Then you shouldn't have bought a Mac because Apple consistent develops for their current machines, and if it works in older machines/OSes great, if not, too bad.

The real "Apple Tax" is not the premium on hardware b/c it's really not much more expensive than a truly comparable PC. The true tax is the fact Macs are not as upgradable and require replacement sooner than comparable PCs. I find I can't keep a desktop for more than 3 years or a laptop for more than 2 because new technology advances at about that rate.

But 90% of the Mac user base is home users who typically don't care about having the latest and greatest OS. (Same for PC home users too). Those of us who are obsessed with being current, either out of hobby or true need, have to realize we chose an expensive computer system.


A little on the dark side in attitude, but I agree with you. You're right about upgradability (why the hell can't we just gut an iMac and use stock parts to refit every couple years? grr.. lol), but when you speak of "comparable" alternatives, while mac hardware breaks down, too, to be fair, you've got to include the shades of grey encompassing annual antivirus subscription renewals; which, compounded over a few years, ends up dragging up your monitary expense to the same price as your initial mac purchase. While I'm a rough gamer during my gaming 'phases', I don't need dual quad cores or 16+ gigs of RAM... (yet). My mac "just works", and so even if I didn't bother with a OS X 10.9 upgrade later on, I think Leopard/Snow Leopard would do just fine to maintain a static performance over a longer term. If my logic board goes a day after AppleCare, that's life.
 
Is anyone gonna take a chance and order online and hope they get it friday? I think I'll have take a trip to my local apple store and make sure I get it friday.

This is not a question of "chance." Apple US's official statement is if u pre-order by midnight on Wed (PT), you WILL get it by Fri.
 
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