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So does the Ships By line that says the 28th on my order mean that I can expect to get it on that day or will it ship out on that day and I won't get it until a week later?

I posted this before, but I have my UTD ordered on 8/21 says "Ships: By August 28th " and my upgrade copy ordered on 8/24 says "Delivers on Aug 28th "

Weird.
 
You guys are bordering on obsessive behaviour... do you have NOTHING better to do, than refresh shipping dates?!! :rolleyes:
 
Could we please stop with all the shipping info posts? No one cares that you're getting Snow Leopard.

I've already pre-ordered and my status is: Prepared for Shipment. Also, it delivers ON August 28th! Needless to say... I'll have Snow Leopard before anyone else!
 
he appears to be wrong in at least one instance - the 2007 iMacs - they should have 64-bit support, at least the 08/2007 models. i can't see any reason why not... T7700 and X7900 are clearly 64-bit capable processors.

Irrelevant if the CPUs can support it, its if apple gave them a 64 bit capable EFI as well.

My June 2007 Macbook Pro certainly is completely capable, hardware wise, but before then I have no idea!
 
Needless to say... I'll have Snow Leopard before anyone else!

Of course you would have to ignore all the people who all ready have the developer downloads and copies of the official release that have all ready been received.

If you don't like the discussion, don't read the posts. The topic after all for this thread is the ship date.

Nowhere in the OP does it say anything to the effect of "Post your shipping dates". As far as I'm concerned all those posting shipping dates are off topic.
 
Nowhere in the OP does it say anything to the effect of "Post your shipping dates". As far as I'm concerned all those posting shipping dates are off topic.
The topic subject is, "Apple Announces August 28th Availability of Snow Leopard"
I would say that the question of when people expect to actually receive it is quite on topic.
But if you disagree then please, give us a list of appropriate topics to discuss.
 
I found this at:

http://blog.fosketts.net/2009/08/24/mac-os-106-snow-leopard-hands-august-28/

Nice chart that answers a lot of questions that are repeatedly asked here...

SL_Facts.JPG


I think chart is BS. Or at least partly True.

Who ever through this chart together, made one hell of a misleading info-graphic. My C2D MBP, and all Core 2 Duo chips, have been 64 bit from the start.

Here is the info on my processor from Intels website. It clearly states it is a 64 bit processor. The only thing i will not get according to that chart is the H.264 accelerated decoding.


Another thing, if you follow his link to Apples Documentation, it also says 'Processor: Intel'. Which in my mind, means any Intel chip, and not PowerPC.
 
I think chart is BS. Or at least partly True.

Who ever through this chart together, made one hell of a misleading info-graphic. My C2D MBP, and every other Intel chip; Core Duo through all Core 2 Duo chips, have been 64 bit from the start.

Here is the info on my processor from Intels website. It clearly states it is a 64 bit processor. The only thing i will not get according to that chart is the H.264 accelerated decoding.

As I said above.

EVEN IF THE CHIP SUPPORTS IT APPLE MAY NOT HAVE GIVEN YOUR MAC A 64-BIT CAPABLE EFI.

From what I can remember and the specs in my head ANY mac that apple says has a limit of 3 Gb will NOT use the 64 bit kernal. Unibodies/anything in the last year WILL use it, anything inbetween.. wait and see.
 
I think chart is BS. Or at least partly True.

Who ever through this chart together, made one hell of a misleading info-graphic. My C2D MBP, and every other Intel chip; Core Duo through all Core 2 Duo chips, have been 64 bit from the start.

Here is the info on my processor from Intels website. It clearly states it is a 64 bit processor. The only thing i will not get according to that chart is the H.264 accelerated decoding.


Another thing, if you follow his link to Apples Documentation, it also says 'Processor: Intel'. Which in my mind, means any Intel chip, and not PowerPC.

the CoreDuo chips are 32-bit. any other Core2Duo chip is 64-bit.

Apple specifies that SL will run on an intel chip, which is true - but the 32-bit chips will only run the 32-but SL, not the 64-bit SL.
 
As I said above.

EVEN IF THE CHIP SUPPORTS IT APPLE MAY NOT HAVE GIVEN YOUR MAC A 64-BIT CAPABLE EFI.

From what I can remember and the specs in my head ANY mac that apple says has a limit of 3 Gb will NOT use the 64 bit kernal. Unibodies/anything in the last year WILL use it, anything inbetween.. wait and see.



Thanks. I know what your saying, but 64 bit just allows for the system/and hardware, to access alot more RAM. It doesn't mean that people with under 4 GBs won't run in 64 bit, you'll just be handy-capped with the 3 GBs.
 
earlier, i wrote this:
i was on the phone earlier today with a seemingly-knowledgeable apple rep today (about a separate issue, but i inquired about my UTD disk).

she was around for prior OS releases and said that unlike during the period around leopard's launch where they listed different shipping for the reg version vs. the UTD version, there were no notes anywhere (that she saw) about different shipping dates.

she did note that her systems listed my order as "prepared for shipment" (i only see "not yet shipped" on the web), and she said that on only a handful of occasions over 5 years did she see an item take longer than 24h from the point her system said "prepared for shipment."

she said officially there is no guarantee about any ship dates, but things are pointing toward UTD orders arriving at the same time.

this, if true, would illustrate that just because something happened with leopard does not mean it will be the same for snow leopard.

carry on. carry on.

and this:

i agree with you that some folks may while others may not get their UTDs on friday.

i also agree -- in theory -- that the language difference should really mean something different. however, it could be inattention to detail. the rep i spoke with seemed to indicate this is possible.

to be technically correct, the language is:
"ships: delivers on august 28th"
vs.
"ships: by august 28th"

again, i have no inside information here. i just wanted to share that the rep @ apple said unlike with leopard's launch where different dates were specified, her only information said all orders will deliver by the 28th (no distinction made between UTD vs other order). she double-checked this as i specifically noted the language difference on the web.

just wanted to post an update as i phoned into apple today (again) as i was contemplating putting in an order for the $29 upgrade to guarantee that it would arrive on friday.

i had to speak with 2 representatives to get to one who could look up my order, yet both said the UTD discs would arrive at the same time. the rep who could actually look up my order said:

* for this launch, the $29 discs are actually considered part of the "up-to-date" program;
* as such, the information they have on the UTD program and shipping is the same for the $9.95 version as it is for the $29 version.
* all pre-orders are still expected to deliver on the 28th.
* she has had some callers who ordered the $29 version have "ships in september" still listed.
* in many cases, she said that shipping status may not even update until the morning of the 28th, and some people (like those close to the warehouse in california), will see shipping status change that day, and have delivery happen hours later.

so, with that info i decided not to order the $29 version. none of the above info is guaranteed, but it seems like in this case an effort is being made to get the $9.95 discs to people in the same timeframe. i guess the worst case is a few extra days.

(the reason why this is an issue for me is that it's easier for me to experiment on a weekend and do a restore, rather than during the week.)
 
The easiest way to tell whether or not your Mac's EFI is 64 bit or not is to enter the terminal command from the article posted above.

"ioreg -l -p IODeviceTree | grep firmware-abi"

If the response is "EFI64", then the EFI is 64 bit.
 
The easiest way to tell whether or not your Mac's EFI is 64 bit or not is to enter the terminal command from the article posted above.

"ioreg -l -p IODeviceTree | grep firmware-abi"

If the response is "EFI64", then the EFI is 64 bit.

Thanks for this! I was able to find out that my December 2007 built 24" iMac 2.4GHz will take advantage of 64 bit processing.
Morod
 
Well I'll be! I bugger off on holiday for a few weeks to the mountains in Spain and I get back to find that Apple have moved the release date forward. Something nice to do (read: play with) in my first week back at work!

Thanks Apple! :D
 
You guys are bordering on obsessive behaviour... do you have NOTHING better to do, than refresh shipping dates?!! :rolleyes:

Nope

Could we please stop with all the shipping info posts? No one cares that you're getting Snow Leopard

O'contraire, there is interest on many a part. First, it's psychological. People checking in and comparing what others orders say puts their mind at ease that they will not be the only ones left without. Second, Apple has announced the release for the 28th and this ideally means everyone who pre-ordered would receive it on the release date, as is customary. The shipping info is the most reliable manner by which to track progress. There would be an unnecessary disparity between demographics if the pre-ordering customers have to wait the weekend plus a day or two while others enjoy the fruits of their procrastination. In short, why should those ordering first wait beyond the release date to enjoy the new OS? Oh, and let's be quite honest about this. There is not a single person who needs this, as in life or death, by this Friday. So why would Apple shoot their own foot with a poorly planned release?

That being said, it should be noted that the shipping system is generally updated once per day (evening or night) unless the parcel is in transit. At that point if things are working as designed the parcel will be scanned at each destination. If the packages are being shipped next day, express, etc. then they will not be active until tomorrow night but that would be an expensive proposition. A decent assumption would be for things to begin to happen tonight.

Anyway, why care about build numbers? As stated elsewhere, in many situations those most interested are those who have an illicit copy of the OS already. In that case, why rationalize a thief's action with a token purchase? Bragging rights perhaps?
 
The easiest way to tell whether or not your Mac's EFI is 64 bit or not is to enter the terminal command from the article posted above.

"ioreg -l -p IODeviceTree | grep firmware-abi"

If the response is "EFI64", then the EFI is 64 bit.

Isn't it just as easy to check the System Profiler? It seems the question really comes down to will SL benefit my hardware?

Correct me if I am wrong. If it is an Intel Core Duo or later SL will support the system in some manner. There is a post with a graph of what machines are supported and what is supported around here somewhere.
 
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