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Apple Announces 'CarPlay' iOS Vehicle Integration Feature

Rogifan said:
Maybe it's a bad business decision on Apple's part, but no one should be surprised that "iOS in the car" is for iOS devices. Google's business model is totally different. As long as you're using Google services they could care less what hardware or OS you're using.
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It's just typical stone age Apple business model, but it's certainly worked for them looking at their bank balance, yet it is too old and walled garden for cars. Whereas goolge and the others are a lot more open. But as said CarPlay will most certainly not be the only option for these cars.

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viacavour said:
Ford will be dropping SYNC from their cars starting next year. That's the on-going rumor we heard so far. It's most likely accurate.

But this is about CarPlay anyway.
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They will still be supporting it though which is all that matters. And yes, I have read rumours they have been looking into Blackberry's QNX, actually I also read they are looking to change current car systems to QNX too, so either way I should be covered :)
 
apolloa said:
Really? but don't you have that twis screen touchscreen tech? And fancy Bowers and Wilkins or Bang and Olufsen stereo options? In what way are they behind, do you not get integration built in?
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It has the meridian audio system.

but that's not the main complaint about Range Rovers (or the Sport versions). It's that LandRover/Jag don't have enough features in their electronics.

The touchscreen is not "high def". The touchscreen feels very lazy. You press a button an sometimes a 2 second delay before the screen transitions to next page.

The best way to describe how laggy the screen is (for those who used to own the old iPhone 3G model) and tried to run iOS 4.0 on it. It's that laggy.

There is no way I can think of that I will be able to put iOS CarPlay on the 2014 Range Rover Sport.
 
bluecluee said:
Look at this Volvo setup! Looks so clean. I'm not a Volvo fan but this looks awesome.
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pretty much agree with you but i dont think those icons mesh. to me they look cut and pasted from various places but i guess thats an ios7 topic.
 
It's a shame that cars made in 2012, 2013, or 2014 that already have good touchscreen systems can't integrate CarPlay via firmware and software updates. Really it shouldn't be that hard if you already have the Apple direct cable like BMW, VW and so many other car makers have. If you can control via a 30 pin or Lightning connector, you should have access to the phone functionality and need just a software or firmware update for the system to support the screen integration and control functionality.
 
osofast240sx said:
I know plenty plenty of people with Toyotas but I do not know one person that uses this feature. This is the part where Apple is good at reading this type of technology to the masses.
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Entune has been in Toyota cars for at least 3 or 4 years now. You connect your android just like iOS carplay. My Prius has it.. Do search for "Entune"
 
I guess we've come to an age where buying a brand new car is not about horsepower, handling, luxury, or price. Now it's about what OS the car is running.:p
 
I just bought a new 2014 Subaru - I doubt this will ever get retrofitted to my vehicle. All I want is for the hands-free button on my steering wheel to activate Siri. I can deal with not having the visual interface on my head-unit.
 
apolloa said:
Hardly copying, and kinda funny how this is a job listing by MERCEDES one of the very makers included in CarPlay's rollout hahahahaha.

Yeah, all this is, is what I said, makers will NOT offer CarPlay only, they will offer multiple solutions because they realise the world does not spin around Apple. But considering Google have been talking about integration for a while now, they aren't copying, they are following the rest of the industry that people like Blackberry and Microsoft have already started.
If anything Apple is yet again following and copying those two if you want to use your analogy. When in reality, they too are just following the industry to get market share and money.


As for those asking about their systems being updated, I would seriously doubt they will be. Best of asking the car makers and NOT Apple, but no point asking now as you'll only be told they have no idea. But I wouldn't hold my breath as you don't know what hardware is behind the CarPlay systems.
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You just don't get it do you ?

There is no "hardware" behind CarPlay.
Nothing is "running" on the Car.

It works like AirPlay does, by sending what is on your phone screen to the car screen, and by allowing you to control the phone via your car. That is all.

There is no need to update CarPlay. It IS your phone, so it gets updated when you update your phone. Your phone IS the hardware.

It has nothing to do with the likes of Android or Microsoft or QNX which are actually systems who will run on the car. You car might run Android and Google Maps, and still when you connect your iPhone will project your iPhone screen on your dashboard. Which is what CarPlay is.

Apple is not in the battle of car systems. It is not competing with Android or QNX. It goes as a layer on top of that. For convenience, and uniformed experience.

That is what CarPlay is all about.

A lot of people here don't get that from what i can read.
 
I was holding out on buying an aftermarket head unit until Apple finally made up their mind about iOS in the car. While beautifully executed in theory, I'm going to have to pass on it, due to yet another poor experience with Apple Maps that left me switching over to the Google Maps app, which had no issues getting me to where I needed to go.
 
The Phazer said:
Yup. Some of these manufacturers have a reputation for quality, so how can they endorse Apple Maps? Stupid of them. Being able to use other maps should have been a deal breaker for anyone who knew what they were doing.
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Hum... Let's see...

1. Very successful and prestigious companies say that apple's OS, including its GPS and map services, is good for their success, current and future.

2. Random guy in macrumors says they are all stupid.

Humm... I wonder who is more insightful? (to say the least)...
 
osofast240sx said:
I know plenty plenty of people with Toyotas but I do not know one person that uses this feature. This is the part where Apple is good at reading this type of technology to the masses.
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I barely use mine anymore, except for playing music, either via Bluetooth or my iPod which remains plugged in.

Toyota's implementation is terrible. I love my Camry, but the one thing I hate is the Navi in dash unit.

The voice controls work 1/20 times. Unless you're looking for a chain with thousands of locations, it will not find your POI via voice.

The map is seriously out of date. I bought the car in 2012. There were streets missing that I know have been finished, built and developed for 10 years (My sister's street for example). And the most recent Map update from Toyoto is $200+

Connecting my devices yield spotty results. Depending on the Device. BB OS6 saw the most features available. Using it i was able to get my contacts, messages, emails, text messages and calender showing up properly in the device. BB10 lost all but basic Bluetooth availability. My Samsung note II only had bluetooth connectivity and text messaging, and the Nexus 5 has the same , but contact sync at least works again.

the problem with the current crop of in dash units, is that every manufacturer is going their own route. they all o to their own manufacturers and none of them seem to follow any standards in any way for connectivity software.

At least Carplay should fix that for iOS devices. unfortunately, CarPlay doesn't take into account any other devices. I see carplay being an additional, "upfee" option. Not, standard unit. As I mentioned before, If you're selling a 30k+ car, playing "favourites" for cell phone tech is silly.
 
SirLance99 said:
I'll protest against the use of only one type of integration. You should be able to use any phone you want.
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See my previous post about "not getting it".
CarPlay goes on top of the Car System.

I agree that you shouldn't leave anyone out.
But Apple are the only ones doing it this way.
Audi should follow, even if they use Android as their onboard system.

CarPlay is just sending a "video feed" to your screen.
Your iPhone is the one doing all the work. Your car is just the display.

Apple is not interested in making iOS for you car.
Hence the name change.

Best
 
apolloa said:
It's just typical stone age Apple business model, but it's certainly worked for them looking at their bank balance, yet it is too old and walled garden for cars. Whereas goolge and the others are a lot more open. But as said CarPlay will most certainly not be the only option for these cars.
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Open and closed is irrelevant here. The car manufacturers will control their own destiny. They can opt for QNX, Linux, Tizen, Android, Windows and any other OS. It is out of Google's or Apple's control.

People will have to play ball with the car companies one way or another. Google's services are not open anyway. They are closed source, and heavily controlled by them.

The Android OS itself is basic and no better than old OSes.

They will still be supporting it though which is all that matters. And yes, I have read rumours they have been looking into Blackberry's QNX, actually I also read they are looking to change current car systems to QNX too, so either way I should be covered :)
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It's a dead end if FORD drops it.
 
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bobenhaus said:
Entune has been in Toyota cars for at least 3 or 4 years now. You connect your android just like iOS carplay. My Prius has it.. Do search for "Entune"
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My point was I don't know anyone that uses it! I want something that seamlessly works with my iPhone and not some sort of clumsy patch.
 
Rogifan said:
I have no idea exactly how it's going to work. I don't know if you're going to be forced to chose or if these models will just support CarPlay for any iPhone with lightening jack. I'm going to assume though that your dash won't become a brick if you don't have an iPhone plugged into the USB port. Maybe the underlying software will be QNX or whatever these manufacturers are currently supporting. And CarPlay is basically just a signal sent to the monitor when an iPhone is plugged in. As far as Microsoft, what cars are running Microsoft OS besides Ford? And weren't there rumors that Ford and Microsoft were parting ways?
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At last, someone finally gets it.
Yes, CarPlay is just a signal sent to your monitor.
It works on top of whatever system your car runs on.

That is the beauty of it.
Unified experience. Always up to date. Doesn't change anything on you dashboard system.
 
aneftp said:
It has the meridian audio system.

but that's not the main complaint about Range Rovers (or the Sport versions). It's that LandRover/Jag don't have enough features in their electronics.

The touchscreen is not "high def". The touchscreen feels very lazy. You press a button an sometimes a 2 second delay before the screen transitions to next page.

The best way to describe how laggy the screen is (for those who used to own the old iPhone 3G model) and tried to run iOS 4.0 on it. It's that laggy.

There is no way I can think of that I will be able to put iOS CarPlay on the 2014 Range Rover Sport.
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Blimey mate, bit surprising for a car costing that much AND that new! Have you spoken to them about it? If they will launch updates to improve it? As for CarPlay then as your car is a brand new model, you may be lucky to just need the head unit and control units changed, if that's what it has.
 
SierraRomeo7 said:
You just don't get it do you ?

There is no "hardware" behind CarPlay.
Nothing is "running" on the Car.

It works like AirPlay does, by sending what is on your phone screen to the car screen, and by allowing you to control the phone via your car. That is all.

There is no need to update CarPlay. It IS your phone, so it gets updated when you update your phone. Your phone IS the hardware.

It has nothing to do with the likes of Android or Microsoft or QNX which are actually systems who will run on the car. You car might run Android and Google Maps, and still when you connect your iPhone will project your iPhone screen on your dashboard. Which is what CarPlay is.

Apple is not in the battle of car systems. It is not competing with Android or QNX. It goes as a layer on top of that. For convenience, and uniformed experience.

That is what CarPlay is all about.

A lot of people here don't get that from what i can read.
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Apart from the screenshot of that Volvo system which has one home screen button you mean, which is useless for non CarPlay systems. And the car systems will STILL need hardware that supports CarPlay, you for instance you can't use Airplay on ANY TV can you? You need a device to work with it like Apple TV, this will be the same from you are saying.
 
SierraRomeo7 said:
You just don't get it do you ?

There is no "hardware" behind CarPlay.
Nothing is "running" on the Car.

It works like AirPlay does, by sending what is on your phone screen to the car screen, and by allowing you to control the phone via your car. That is all.

There is no need to update CarPlay. It IS your phone, so it gets updated when you update your phone. Your phone IS the hardware.

It has nothing to do with the likes of Android or Microsoft or QNX which are actually systems who will run on the car. You car might run Android and Google Maps, and still when you connect your iPhone will project your iPhone screen on your dashboard. Which is what CarPlay is.

Apple is not in the battle of car systems. It is not competing with Android or QNX. It goes as a layer on top of that. For convenience, and uniformed experience.

That is what CarPlay is all about.

A lot of people here don't get that from what i can read.
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If it works like AirPlay, then it means: AirPlay stack on multiple OSes ! :)

Are you sure ? I agree the software run on iOS though. This will solve most if not all the software update, complexity, performance and security issues.
 
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SierraRomeo7 said:
You just don't get it do you ?

There is no "hardware" behind CarPlay.
Nothing is "running" on the Car.

It works like AirPlay does, by sending what is on your phone screen to the car screen, and by allowing you to control the phone via your car. That is all.

There is no need to update CarPlay. It IS your phone, so it gets updated when you update your phone. Your phone IS the hardware.

It has nothing to do with the likes of Android or Microsoft or QNX which are actually systems who will run on the car. You car might run Android and Google Maps, and still when you connect your iPhone will project your iPhone screen on your dashboard. Which is what CarPlay is.

Apple is not in the battle of car systems. It is not competing with Android or QNX. It goes as a layer on top of that. For convenience, and uniformed experience.

That is what CarPlay is all about.

A lot of people here don't get that from what i can read.
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Exactly. I don't get what's so difficult to understand unless people are being purposely obtuse.
 
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