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Apple Announces 'CarPlay' iOS Vehicle Integration Feature

numlock said:
is there a reason for the need of the phone having a lightning connector?

one would understand ios7 being needed
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Likely to help reduce the amount of hardware/code that needed to be used to develop for both the Lightning and 30-pin connectors. Also to force more people to upgrade:p

OldSchoolMacGuy said:
Hope Pioneer adds support for this on the AppRadio 3.
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I wouldn't hold my breath for that. Pioneer has redesigned their headunits for 2014 to run on Android.

wigby said:
Apple has to set a standard of quality at such an early stage of launch. Do you really want a ton of crappy apps at your fingertips in the car? If so then you might as well just wait for Google's solution. It will launch with a million apps. Good luck finding one that works well.
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Right, because there aren't any crappy apps in the iOS app store.
 
Anyway you slice it, this is somewhat a fail because you have to plug your phone into it. Wifi connection might have made sense.
 
thelonelylimo said:
After numerous meetings Steve had with Martin Winterkorn, Volkswagen Auto Group aren't participating in the initial launch? Not even Audi or Porsche? Kind of odd IMO.
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I remember that from the day my car sales guy said that 'iPhone support was just around the corner' it still took several years until the new models got some half-hearted support that allowed me to play audio from my iPhone but nothing else (no phone functions, no access to the iPhone SIM card or address book) ... presumably because they wanted to push their own version of a car phone.

That not a single brand from VAG is in either the first or second wave is telling me that they have no intention to change their glacial speed when it comes to adopting new technology. Makes me kind of wonder what else is outdated in my car.
 
Rogifan said:
Except that might confuse people. Already I've seen some questioning whether they have to own an iPhone to use the car. But the cars themselves won't be running iOS, it's just a signal being fed to the display via the phone.
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Yeah carplay will make for lots less confusion :rolleyes:
 
The Phazer said:
Yup. Some of these manufacturers have a reputation for quality, so how can they endorse Apple Maps? Stupid of them. Being able to use other maps should have been a deal breaker for anyone who knew what they were doing.
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I know this obviously doesn't make Maps better for you, but in the US they're pretty rock solid now, and have been for awhile. I'd imagine the US is the biggest market and therefore for *most* of the users this won't be an issue.
 
I'm hoping the 2014 Honda Civic will be compatible as soon as the iOS update is released. I just picked one of these up last week and they currently only work with Honda approved apps and they are all very limited. Apple is showing the 2014 Civic in all of their promotional material, so that gives me hope. But I'm surprised they're not listed as one of the first manufacturers.
 
Glad to see Apple copying and following everyone else. But it's a joke of a system, first off is Apple maps? THE WORST EVER sat nav system that is STILL broken.
Then we have iOS only integration? What use is that? Like this Mercedes sir? It's packed full of tech, oh, I see you have an Android phone, well sir walk over to this model as it.s more compatible...... :rolleyes:

Yeah, I can see the car makers dropping this soon when they realise not everyone has an iOS device, or, the iOS system sill have to run alongside systems like the existing Ford Sync and Blackberry QNX and the upcoming Android systems.
If not, then iOS in cars will have a very very very short lifespan, but this is a stupid selfish and profit making move by Apple, force everyone to iOS devices when you buy a new car.

Sorry, but I have experienced Apples 'car integration' and 'made for iPhone' before, and it get's annoying when Apple decides to ignore bluetooth standards and breaks a feature with every update, that the car make has to then patch for... which ONLY happens with iOS devices.
 
A couple of questions: So is there any specifications car makers have to meet before they can integrate this into their cars? Like does the screen have to be multi-touch? Does every car brand have to use the same hardware design pictured above? Is supporting CarPlay mainly just a software update to existing infotainment systems?
 
oftheheavens said:
agreed my 2013 s4 should be able to easily do this with the MMI+
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Yeah, in the same boat with my Audi A6 with MMI. As it is, it acts funky when you switch from listing to the iPhone music over bluetooth to plugging it in with the lightning cable. It always resets back to playing my first playlist. Bugs the crap out of me.
 
the future said:
That would be incredibly stupid and cost them sales. Customers for high-class cars tend to prefer high-class phones. Mercedes and BMW will be quite happy if this is true.
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Lol, aren't we pretty high up on our high horse?

Fact is, there are more Android users out there than iOS users. And in Audi's home base, Windows Phone is rapidly increasing in numbers but is still outnumbered by Android.

It won't cost them any sales. People don't buy cars based on whether or not it has iOS integration or not. There would be an absolute niche number of people that would make that a deciding factor. I am a customer for high class cars yet I would never use an iOS device.
 
the future said:
That would be incredibly stupid and cost them sales. Customers for high-class cars tend to prefer high-class phones. Mercedes and BMW will be quite happy if this is true.
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Apart from the FACT it will work with ANY phone! They are going Android and they use Blackberry's QNX system, it's actually going iOS only that WILL cost car makers sales.
And the iPhone is not 'high class'. Far far from it. Does the iPhone have a direct 24 hour concierge worldwide service button on the side of it? no?
 
redhawk87 said:
A couple of questions: So is there any specifications car makers have to meet before they can integrate this into their cars? Like does the screen have to be multi-touch? Does every car brand have to use the same hardware design pictured above? Is supporting CarPlay mainly just a software update to existing infotainment systems?
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I think there are some minimal things. iOS has to be able to control the screen, the car mic, the car speakers. According to Apple's web page, if the screen isn't touch, it can be controlled by console buttons. If not touch, you probably need up, down, left, right and select. You probably also need buttons for Play/Pause, forward, reverse, and Siri.

That's not too bad. My 2007 Acura Nav package is probably enough. A 7" screen, mic, audio, touch screen, and joystick is there. The rub is the car software has to talk to the phone over the lightning connector and there is nothing like that in the car (or probably any current car).So I think cars need some sort of hardware added. An aftermarket gadget could be made available to handle this. But I don't expect Acura to do that, car manufacturers want you to upgrade by buying a new car.
 
The Phazer said:
If you have to use your own satnav this becomes the most totally useless feature in the world.
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I agree, If buying a car. one I'm paying 30,000+ for. And you tell me that a good chunk of features on my headunit built into the car is iOS compatible only and effectively if i don't use Apple, I am stuck with "dumb offline headunit".

I would likely buy my car elsewhere.

When you're paying that sort of money (and i'm well aware thats considered low end for many), I dont expect my car to be forced to be tied to a specific cell phone platform just to use functionality.

I'm also not a fan of the implementation. From my understanding, this effectively takes the input and data directly from the phone. Which means you have to operate the phone itself as the "remote" to your head unit.

I dont know about most places. But here in Ontario, you aren't even allowed to touch your cell phone while you're behind the wheel. A bit of a barrier to this model. While everyone is moving towards voice and other hands (eyes free) implementations, Carplay seems to go backwards on that. Hopefully it'll be fully integrated with Siri.
 
Would love an Aftermarket 7" screen or so CarPlay compatible deck I could throw in my Jeep. I'm sure it would cost more than the Jeep itself, but I would be willing to shell out for it.
 
apolloa said:
Apart from the FACT it will work with ANY phone! They are going Android and they use Blackberry's QNX system, it's actually going iOS only that WILL cost car makers sales.
And the iPhone is not 'high class'. Far far from it. Does the iPhone have a direct 24 hour concierge worldwide service button on the side of it? no?
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Who is going iOS only? If you don't have your phone plugged in (or don't use an iPhone) no CarPlay, simple as that. Can you name me one manufacturer that is going "iOS only"?
 
LordVic said:
I agree, If buying a car. one I'm paying 30,000+ for. And you tell me that a good chunk of features on my headunit built into the car is iOS compatible only and effectively if i don't use Apple, I am stuck with "dumb offline headunit".

I would likely buy my car elsewhere.

When you're paying that sort of money (and i'm well aware thats considered low end for many), I dont expect my car to be forced to be tied to a specific cell phone platform just to use functionality.
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Exactly. I'm imagining the CarPlay functionality will be an upgrade that will cost a pretty penny. If not then contrary to what someone stated above, I would actually have to scratch those cars off my list due to me not/never owning an iOS device.

Rogifan said:
Who is going iOS only? If you don't have your phone plugged in (or don't use an iPhone) no CarPlay, simple as that. Can you name me one manufacturer that is going "iOS only"?
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There are still a lot of unknowns right now. Will the headunit have it's own manufacturer version of SatNav and supporting media apps? Will CarPlay only activate when an iOS device is plugged in? Will Apple Maps be used for CarPlay and a manufacturer specific map set be used for non-CarPlay?

Many questions, not many answers yet.
 
LordVic said:
I agree, If buying a car. one I'm paying 30,000+ for. And you tell me that a good chunk of features on my headunit built into the car is iOS compatible only and effectively if i don't use Apple, I am stuck with "dumb offline headunit".
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Who said this was the case? What car manufacturer would sign on to that anyway?
 
Rogifan said:
Who is going iOS only? If you don't have your phone plugged in (or don't use an iPhone) no CarPlay, simple as that. Can you name me one manufacturer that is going "iOS only"?
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Then what features are you going to get? Because currently I get all features on all devices in my car, yet somehow it's great CarPlay will only give you all features with iOS devices, because it's great to be forced to use iOS to use hands free satnav and voice calling...

No, it's Apple trying to force people to buy iOS so it can save on costs developing it's software to work with non iOS devices, and it could cost car sales abroad if not in the US.

So come on, list on here exactly what features CarPlay will give you with iOS. Because then we will know, according to yourself, what you WON'T get with a non iOS device.
 
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