What you say makes sense and I understand.
I’m not a pro anymore, so I’m just fiddling around having a good time.
I think it’ll be fun to have logic with a touch interface, time will tell how good it is.
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Apple Announces Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro for iPad With Subscription Models
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I’m not a pro anymore, so I’m just fiddling around having a good time.
I think it’ll be fun to have logic with a touch interface, time will tell how good it is.
So I have an M1 Mac and this will work with an iPad Pro that has the same M1 chip in it.
Apple previously advertised how great the M1 is and that developers can take advantage of using the same apps on iPad and phone on M1 - ie not paying for them again.
I have Logic Pro on my M1 but have to pay a subscription to use Logic Pro on my iPad?
Logic just went out of the window for a cash grab.
This is Apple at its worst.
Apple previously advertised how great the M1 is and that developers can take advantage of using the same apps on iPad and phone on M1 - ie not paying for them again.
I have Logic Pro on my M1 but have to pay a subscription to use Logic Pro on my iPad?
Logic just went out of the window for a cash grab.
This is Apple at its worst.
I’m not happy with a lot of the things that Apple does, so I’m not defending them.
I have logic on my M1 air and I’m hoping that this new influx of cash for the iPad version
which I will buy, will help support the whole logic platform and keep the updates coming.
Subscription model WHAT THE.............
Oh right, I'm not a content creator, sorry
Oh right, I'm not a content creator, sorry
Everything Apple’s ever made has been for a cash grab, from the Apple II up until now. They’re still in business because they’ve been very successful at cash grabs.
This is the tweet talking about the alleged MacOS Mendocino.
Pages, Numbers, Keynote, Messages, off the top of my head...Which products are you thinking of or are you being sarcastic? Off the top of my head I can't think of an app that existed on the Mac and iOS that was then discontinued on the Mac. I'm not disagreeing, I'm genuinely curious.
Of course they are; the iOS versions. NOT the Mac OS versions. These are entirely new apps and they are still missing some of the features of the original versions.Pages, Numbers, Keynote ... are still on Macs
OMG I have no patience for this. Look it up yourself. This was a BIG DEAL in terms of the iLife apps being trashed on the Mac a number of years ago, so the info is probably still lurking out on the web.
It's easy to tell the difference between the iOS ports to Mac OS vs the original Mac OS versions even without a lot of examination. The APIs and resulting UI are different.
One that's probably not documented on the web: the Mac OS version of Messages is now utterly crippled with regard to keyboard control of anything but typing text (tabbing to controls is broken), there are no shortcuts to move between conversations, etc., and the trackpad gesture to switch between conversations are gone... and all trackpad gestures used for moving from fullscreen workspace to workspace results in being unable to type in the Messages text box without clicking in it, despite there being a blinking cursor and autocorrect half-assed reacting to typing you can't see appearing on screen (while it works fine if you just CMD-Tab between Messages and other apps).
EDIT: Yes, they're "Mac OS Versions" in that they run on Mac OS. But they are back ported from the iOS versions. These are a different codebase from the original Mac OS versions.
That's why projects from these apps should be compatible with their desktop counterparts - this way people can change back and forth. That's not what we're getting though
I think we've yet to see what level of interoperability will be provided. It's too early to say. Obviously any third-party plugins won't be compatible for a start. But don't get me wrong this is a 'great thing' that many Logic users have been waiting for.
According to Apple, the refer to “Roundtrip Compatibility” only for Logic. By which they mean “Easily move your Logic Pro projects between Mac and iPad to create in the studio or out on the road.” That will be just as compatible as moving from one computer with Ableton to another computer with Ableton or one Mac with Logic Pro to another Mac with Logic Pro… if the plugins aren’t installed in the target system, things won’t work.
While some developers have been resistant to support iOS, some may feel pushed to make their plugins available since, if a vendor doesn’t supply, say, their reverb plugin for the iPad, some competitor may do so providing an opening for them to make money on the iPad and use THOSE funds to challenge them on the desktop in the future.
Maybe faster but not more accurate. The other benefit of the mouse is you’re not blocking the screen with your hand(s).
You can use the Apple Pencil, with the iPad Pro M2 there is a hover feature.
Unfortunately it very much will be “Roundtrip Compatibility” with an asterisk. It cannot be the same as seamlessly moving a project between two computers equipped with the same DAWs and plugins, because the same third-party plugins and tools are mostly not available in the iPadOS space. Nearly all producers use third-party plugins to some degree, and many producers wholly rely on them.
Launching Logic on the iPad may encourage devs to port their MacOS Logic plugins to the iPad, but one fly in the ointment is the lack of sideloading. Apple's business-model of taking a crippling cut from App Store sales has to be either taken on the chin by the devs, or by the customer paying more for iPad plugins than Mac plugins. Both of those prospects will limit the likelihood of devs migrating their pro-grade plugins to iPadOS, because of financially unviability.
Another fly in the ointment is customers potentially paying for the same plugins twice: once on their Mac, and once on their iPad. I guess devs could opt to offer the iPad version of MacOS plugins for free if the user has already purchased the Mac version, but the likelihood of that remains to be seen.
EDIT: Whether or not all the native MacOS Logic plugins are in the iPad version is something we will only find out next Tuesday. Certainly many of them seem to be, albeit with redesigned UIs optimised for touch (which is great).
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I wouldn't be surprised if new updates for the MacOS versions of Logic and Final Cut come out that day, allowing compatibility with their iPad equivalent projects (though with Final Cut, I'm pretty sure rather than a round trip it'll just be like with iMovie, being only able to import iMovie from iOS projects into the Mac version). Maybe this will also include the "background removal mask" feature in the Mac version of Final Cut...
Here’s my only question. For those of us who have the Wi-Fi only models. When on the go/traveling, how do you guys upload your videos? obviously hotel/plane wi-fi cant be trusted.
The roundtrip description only refers to whether or not the files can be created on one, edited on the other, then edited again on the first one transparently, and that’s what Apple IS saying about Logic specifically but not about FCP. No asterisk required.
We’re already aware of a new version of FCP on the way (because the Mac version that the iPad version is compatible with is, as of this time, unreleased).
I don't see it this way. You can instantly zoom in on things like graphics and dissect your project with split-hair precision. The Pencil feels so much more natural than any mouse ever will, and the hover feature shows you things before you actually implement them. You can't do that with a mouse. They are two different forms of doing something. Like having an automatic transmission VS. a stick shift. If Apple would allow the Pencil to be used with the Trackpad on desktops, I would switch immediately.
The screen is not blocked with your hand(s) because - you know - they're your hands, and you move them anywhere you want at will. I don't equate something like 'pinch and zoom' with "blocking" the screen. I do however equate having a mouse the size of my hand, laying on a desktop with clutter
Considering that we still are not able to buy commercial fonts for the iPad without massive trickery, I wonder how plug-ins, VST, generators and templates will work on the iPad. These are an important part of the work, especially in FinalCut. At that price, though, even without VST, Logic will be a no-brainer for scribbles to be fine-tuned on the Mac. One should not replace the other but be complementary. For real work the iPad cannot replace the Mac for a couple of reasons (except when your work is based on writing and surfing only ;-)
You draw on paper..your hand does not "block the drawing" when drawing on paper. Come on....you have to try harder than that. The pen and touch is infinitely more accurate than trying to draw etc with a mouse.