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Oh thank goodness. My kitty cat pictures and dinner plans from 5 years ago are safe from prying eyes.

I don't put anything over a text message I don't expect someone to be able to read somewhere down the road. Same thing with talking on the phone.

If it needs to be secret, we meet in person.
 
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Sounds cool for people who only talk with Apple users I guess. I'll stick with multi-platform chatting apps though, thank you very much.
 
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"Backdoor this, bitches."
Lol, it's already defeated by the fact that Apple have the encryption keys for automatically enabled iCloud backups for every user who hasn't opted into Advanced Data Protection. So 99% of the people you're iMessaging with will store everything they and you send in the backup that three-letter-organizations can demand Apple provide them with.

You could have literal unbreakable cryptography and it wouldn't matter when you store it unencrypted in those backups.
 
We (me and my friends) tend to use WhatsApp here in Europe as we don't need to worry about what phone others are using. Plus, it works well on laptops.

I use iMessage with my family as we all have iPhones and/or iPads, but it's WhatsApp (or Line if I really have to, with friends in Asia) for everyone else.
To talk with my friends in Europe and Central America it is WhatsApp even if they have an iPhone. One friend used iMessage for a while but found there were times they were getting charged for messages so they stopped using it
 
  1. Is this a standard others can adopt too... or is this a proprietary, Apple-only protocol?
  2. An Apple-centric answer to RCS or in addition to RCS?
Update: Answer to the #1 appears to be in the lengthy release...



"we" appears to be Apple Inc.

What I don't see in the release is if it is to be offered as a standard for others to adopt too or if it will remain an Apple sandbox exclusive... and thus- like Facetime- not used by MOST of the texting devices in the world. Hopefully this is not about "protecting" blue bubbles vs. green bubbles.

I thoroughly applaud the innovation but the big reward in this great security leap seems to be dependent on parties at BOTH ends of the chat using it.

It's not as simple as that. The new PQ3 is built using established and ongoing community efforts beyond Apple, with layers added. This is Apple's contribution back to the community to enhance the Post-Quantum encryption efforts already in play. Signal was the first app to use such a protocol, and instead of just following Signal, Apple is leap-frogging them to a whole new version that they've helped to develop.

Go back and read that very comprehensive blog post to see that.

Man, this is the stuff I love to see Apple announce! I wish we saw more of this!
 
To talk with my friends in Europe and Central America it is WhatsApp even if they have an iPhone. One friend used iMessage for a while but found there were times they were getting charged for messages so they stopped using it
Yep. Apple refuses to separate iMessage from text/SMS, and FaceTime from phone calls, and links them to phone numbers and/or email addresses. It's a mess, and always has been.
 
i did and you responded to me with rcs press release
still unsure what your confusion around the meaning of "client" has anything to do with this discussion. my reply is about RCS being cross platform, not about RCS being a "client". why do you care what the client is?

with RCS you will be able to message iOS from android (cross platform). android will be using their own client (google messages) and on iPhone the RCS will be built into the "Messages" client. any other platform will be able to adopt RCS into their own CLIENT as they wish to enable cross platform texting.
 
Lol, it's already defeated by the fact that Apple have the encryption keys for automatically enabled iCloud backups for every user who hasn't opted into Advanced Data Protection. So 99% of the people you're iMessaging with will store everything they and you send in the backup that three-letter-organizations can demand Apple provide them with.

You could have literal unbreakable cryptography and it wouldn't matter when you store it unencrypted in those backups.
True - and I've always wondered about this. If I have ADP on - and use iCloud Backup - but the recipient does not use ADP and also uses iCloud Backup, my assumption is that a request for the correspondences of the recipient would also include my responses. Is that so? I've tried to encourage people to turn on ADP since the iCloud Backup exception (vs Messages in iCloud) was always sketchy to me - but g'luck getting your average contact to do that.
 
This is worth at least an additional $1T in market cap for $AAPL, and on the upside, I think it could even take $AAPL market cap to $10T within the year.
 
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I really don't mind the government looking at messages of my cat photos on iMessage - i have nothing to hide, and I wish the Apple engineers had time instead to make Apple reply work on Apple Music vs the web!
 
I hope they will also update iMessage with ui features. Whatsapp is just so much easier and intuitive to use, that‘s why nobody is using iMessage in Europe.

As others as have, it's not easier or more intuitive to use, it's just cross platform
 
Yup, because everyone by now has become such creatures of habit

While we use iMessage and many other platforms, it seems that the trend of those in the EU using WhatsApp and those in China using WeChat isn't going to change anytime soon even with how commonplace iMessage has become

It’ll never change as long as iMessage remains an Apple-only club.
 
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To talk with my friends in Europe and Central America it is WhatsApp even if they have an iPhone. One friend used iMessage for a while but found there were times they were getting charged for messages so they stopped using it

I’m in Europe and I just checked my Messages app. The latest iMessage there was the 24th thread and that was spam. The latest legit iMessage was at #33. Actual communication happens mostly in WhatsApp where we don’t have to care if the other party is using an iPhone or an Android.
 
I’m in Europe and I just checked my Messages app. The latest iMessage there was the 24th thread and that was spam. The latest legit iMessage was at #33. Actual communication happens mostly in WhatsApp where we don’t have to care if the other party is using an iPhone or an Android.
You can delete and report junk in one action. I only occasionally get spam texts now.
 
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