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Apple Announces iLife '09

Half Glass said:
why are the iLife '09 up to date details not being revealed until Jan 12th?

http://www.apple.com/ilife/uptodate/


Perhaps more hardware then?

...dreaming...
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Not necessarily dreaming - new Mac mins and iMacs are definitely in the cards, and we could be seeing them sooner than some people might think. That being said, announcements by January 12 to coincide with the above are probably pushing it.
 
linuxophile said:
Re: what software. I think Home vista premium.

Re: "mini not updated in two years".
Whose fault is this?
They are selling it as of now, so it is only fair to compare it with today's models by other manufacturers.
Well, the imac does not score much better. There is a Sony in a similar form factor, I think with a touch screen, that costs less than a 20in imac. I'll leave you the pleasure of googling.


Re: "comparing what".
Of course I am comparing the hardware! That is what we were talking about (at least what I was talking about).


The software is not comparable: it would be comparing Apples and Oranges.
Too much emotional involvement to actually make an objective comparison.
You can install kubuntu for free.
Maybe even hack-intosh it.
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I realize that you only want to complain about the MacMini not being updated. I think MhxDoesMatter said it best

MhzDoesMatter said:
This is why reading this thread has convinced me leaving Macworld is best for Apple....

Anyone who says the improvements to imovie is Fluff obviously doesn't use the previous iteration of the program regularly and more than that knows little to nothing about video editing. Even an FCPro junkie can see that '09 vs '08 is an amazing jump in utility for such an entry level program.

Call the new iPhoto eye candy if u want. But people like Candy. And Geotagging and Facetagging are the NEW IT in pop web culture. Facebook and Twitter are huge phenomenons. Apple is catering to what will help sell the platform.

The MacMini wasn't upgraded. So? The only reason u thought it would be upgraded was because Arn told u it would be. Go bitch and complain to him. But don't pointlessly denounce Apple in a rumor site for not doing what u wanted them to do when you wanted them to do it. That really is whining. No, not expressing yourself; whining.

If you just bought a $2800 dollar laptop and are now complaining about a $79 upgrade, then you are either a d**chebag or think your $2800 dollars purchased you an entitlement. In that case, you're over estimating your importance and the significance of your mere $2800 to Apple. A couple grand is not enough to buy you the treatment you obviously think you deserve. So you actually would do better to take your "nickels and dimes" to a company who isn't so interested in getting them all one by one.


This is all why Apple can't be a part of Macworld. Expo's breed this sort of behavior; unrealistic expectations, entitlement, invisible deadlines, and images of fanboy's sitting on forum boards talking about what the company didn't do. In order to gain real mass appeal which is better in terms of long term profitability, Apple is, rightfully imo, cleaning out all the dark corners where this kool-aid zealot mentality grows.

Good riddance.
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MhzDoesMatter said:
The MacMini wasn't upgraded. So? The only reason u thought it would be upgraded was because Arn told u it would be. Go bitch and complain to him. But don't pointlessly denounce Apple in a rumor site for not doing what u wanted them to do when you wanted them to do it. That really is whining. No, not expressing yourself; whining.
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The Mini wasn't upgraded. That is objectively disappointing.
And the reasons are: people like the form factor, like the OS but not the price for such old specs.

Whining? Of course! That exactly the same you are doing in your post about others' whining. That is the only purpose of this discussion: venting and whining.

You've got to admit there is some value in it, for otherwise you yourself wouldn't do it...
 
My question is... can I create my own music lessons in garageband-- cause that would really be revolutionary! But if it's only basic piano/guitar lessons purchased from apple, nice, not but that great.

Oh, and added instruments templates for lessons-- clarinets, saxophones, violins, drums...
 
iMovie 08 projects?

Does anyone know yet if you have existing iMovie 08 projects can they be used with the new iMovie 09?

Or do you have to re-import everything just like iMovie 06 -> iMovie 08?

Thanks
 
ricosuave said:
Maybe it's the conspiracy theorist in me, but what would this beloved company of ours going to do with our faces and the cloud?
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Truth be told, you're right on. Anyone who accesses the computer (physically or via network) has access to all the identified photos of friends and family, and places the owner has travelled...
 
Saladinos said:
iWeb has been updated, iDVD is the same as before.

Only iLife 09 requires Leopard. iWork 09 will work on OSX 10.4.11.
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iWork also requires your Leopard or Tiger installation be up to date.

System requirements
A Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or PowerPC G4 (500MHz or faster) processor
512MB of RAM (1GB recommended)
32MB of video memory
Mac OS X v10.4.11, or Mac OS X v10.5.6 or later
QuickTime 7.5.5*or later
1.2GB of available disk space
DVD drive required to install
 
ChrisA said:
If the there is real content in the artist lessens in GB then it is worth $79. But if it is just "fluff" then no. Actual I'd buy iLife just for the ability to tag my photos to people's names. If there is a way that I can use iPhoto's face recognition to tag my Aperture library then I'll buy it. I have many thousands of photos that were scanned from film that I have yet to tag. I'll be hapy to pay $79 if it will save me 100 hours of work.
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Same here, if there is any way to do that, they'll get my money...
 
Not much in the new iLife to interest me. Sure organisation by Faces is neat but is it a reason to upgrade?

At least Apple are trying to rectify their mistakes re: iMovie..
 
iMovie 09 is worth the update :)

I'm buying this for iMovie 09 alone. iPhoto is icing on the cake but it is disappointing that they didn't give iWeb a much-needed update.

iMovie 09, however, seems to have got everything we could have dreamed of - now going beyond feature parity with iMovie 06 (seems archaic doesn't it? ;)).

I noticed the following snippet hidden in the advanced drag and drop capabilities: "Drag-and-drop editing includes advanced options like cutaways, picture-in-picture and green-screen effects."

Green screen? Picture in picture? Looks like I might be able to finally drop Final Cut Express, which still feels like it is stuck in Mac OS 9. I've already liked what I've seen from iMovie 08 with the ease and simplicity with which to make simple cuts (it's not just for YouTube (yawn) you know!)

Furthermore, the new effects and titles appear to lose their "iMovie-ness" i.e. they look professional enough and customisable enough not to look like yet another iMovie movie, iDVD DVD or iWeb website. I'm itching to get into it.

And finally - the ability to perform simple edits easily. With iMovie 08 it was almost impossible to decouple the sound from a clip and offset it without getting into a complete mess.

One thing - does anyone know if iMovie 09 includes the ability to adjust the speed of a clip? I find its omission in 08 unbelievably frustrating!

EDIT - found it - YES to adjusting clip speed! :)
 
Box Set of iLife, iWork and Leopard

This is $169 right? So in England you would expect about £100, perhaps £120.

But its going for £200?! That's like 350 dollars!

What a jip.
 
Fibbons said:
This is $169 right? So in England you would expect about £100, perhaps £120.

But its going for £200?! That's like 350 dollars!

What a jip.
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You are mistaken - it is £149 - but I agree that even that is a complete rip-off. When is Apple going to wake up to the fact that the combined international market is much larger than the US??!! Imagine the profits if even just Mac market share in Europe matched the US?! :eek:

Looks like Apple has adjusted its exchange rates owing to the weak pound. Up until now we've been getting $1 = 59p * which has recently (last 3-4 months) been advantageous. Now, however, they have ramped it up to $1 = 89p with the new box set!!!

Our prices do include VAT however whereas US prices don't, but it went down - did you hear that Apple? It went down to 15%!!!


* except iTunes, which uses the $0.99 = 79p rate - tut tut Apple!
 
Kaptajn Haddock said:
Once again iPhoto has more advanced features than Aperture. Please bring Face Detection to Aperture :)
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I know... I hope I don't have to wait till version 3 for that. In fact I would like all the iPhoto organization features in Aperture... Faces, Places, Events etc
 
johnnyjibbs said:
I'm buying this for iMovie 09 alone. ...it seems to have got everything we could have dreamed of - now going beyond feature parity with iMovie 06 (seems archaic doesn't it? ;)).
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Agreed, but I'd still like to play with it in a store first. What the manual says and how it works are two different things :)

johnnyjibbs said:
Looks like I might be able to finally drop Final Cut Express, which still feels like it is stuck in Mac OS 9
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I too had to buy FCE when the new imovie came out, in hopes to get features and ease of editing. While it is powerful, the interface does leave a lot to be desired. Maybe if you grew up using analog editing equipment it would make more sense.

johnnyjibbs said:
With iMovie 08 it was almost impossible to ...
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Aside from lack of editing control, my big problem with im08 was the fact that all movie clips showed up in the clip window - no way to folder-ize them or anything. So trying to find the one clip I want in this mass of 200 clips, all of which are expanded to show the whole clip, is the worst nightmare of all...
 
n3xt3volution said:
I have an idea...How about Apple offers the free upgrade of iLife 09 to all those that purchased a new system in 2009. It makes sense, huh?

I was five days shy, I should have just waited. Next time I will give more thought to my expensive impulses.
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You can still 'return' it to the store and they won't charge restocking fee if you are buying it back again – your purchase date will become upgrade eligible.
 
important things are lacking.


iDVD is horrible and unusable, Apple should integrate the Toast 9 software instead. They would save in (bad) development costs and make huge advances in quality.

Final Cut Studio is seriously obsolete and needs an update very badly. DVD Studio Pro is unchanged since Final Cut Studio 1, while Compressor should be corrected in many ways. Final Cut Pro itself needs serious updates. Of course many are considering move to Adobe CS4, which makes sense, not just because it is more advanced, but mainly because I am confident Adobe is more committed to keeping their software package up to date.

Apple updated Final Cut Studio once in a while, if their development team is not busy with Itunes or Iphone, and if Steve Jobs is in the mood for video. This is no way to make us feel safe in the long run when investing on Apple Editing solutions.
 
johnnyjibbs said:
You are mistaken - it is £149 - but I agree that even that is a complete rip-off. When is Apple going to wake up to the fact that the combined international market is much larger than the US??!! Imagine the profits if even just Mac market share in Europe matched the US?! :eek:

Looks like Apple has adjusted its exchange rates owing to the weak pound. Up until now we've been getting $1 = 59p * which has recently (last 3-4 months) been advantageous. Now, however, they have ramped it up to $1 = 89p with the new box set!!!

Our prices do include VAT however whereas US prices don't, but it went down - did you hear that Apple? It went down to 15%!!!


* except iTunes, which uses the $0.99 = 79p rate - tut tut Apple!
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That said, iTunes doesn't seem to be increasing song prices in the UK. I've found no mention of the new tiered system anywhere on Apple's UK site. There's mention of it on the US site's "Hot News" section, but the UK "Hot News" markedly omits the last few sentences about price changes in April.

If that's true, we're getting DRM-free for the same price even after April. Sweet!
 
Kaptajn Haddock said:
Once again iPhoto has more advanced features than Aperture. Please bring Face Detection to Aperture :)
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Yes but a different audience in Aperture which is heavy duty enhancement as opposed to a more consumer family approach in iLife. I use Aperture and wouldn't be bothered using events based on faces or places...
 
Saladinos said:
That said, iTunes doesn't seem to be increasing song prices in the UK. I've found no mention of the new tiered system anywhere on Apple's UK site. There's mention of it on the US site's "Hot News" section, but the UK "Hot News" markedly omits the last few sentences about price changes in April.

If that's true, we're getting DRM-free for the same price even after April. Sweet!
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I'd wait and see on that one. Apple has a trend of charging higher European prices for their services...
 
linuxophile said:
Here you go:
Mac Mini vs
Dell Studio Hybrid.

On one corner the Mini:
1.8 ghz C2duo, 1 gb, 80 gbhd = 645$ (canadian)

On the other corner Dell:
2ghz C2duo, 2gb, 160gbhd (you have to custom add the wifi and wireless keyboard/mouse = 635$ (Canadian).


Plus, the Dell is as cute as the mini (-opinion-)

one/zero
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You forgot to add that the Mini has Mac OS X and that the Dell has Windows Vista. Sort of balances it a bit.
 
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