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I just ordered iLife '09 with my education discount. It was £37.38 in total:

£30.00 (Item)
£4.88 (VAT)
£2.50 (Shipping)

Shows as £58.65 if I choose the school option. :confused: I can't choose FE/HE as I'm not on a campus network (and I'm not eligible either!)
 
I have to wonder if this is the reason Apple is bowing out of Macworld. It's kind of obvious that they really didn't have much ready to announce this time around, which is the downside to being forced onto a convention's schedule to announce new products. What if your products just aren't ready?

I'm kind of surprised about the complaining about the Mini. I'd have figured that on a Mac based message board, most of the people posting would have gone for a higher level product than a mini. Guys, I have a sneaking suspicion that the mini is a dead end product. It's kind of obvious that Apple isn't interested in supporting it.

I'm not too disappointed by the announcements, but then I'm not in the market for a new device. Having treated myself to an iPhone for Christmas, I'm actually kind of glad they didn't announce anything new for it. :)
 
I want to 'switch'. I want to run all Apple gear in my business. But as it stands, none of Apple's desktop offerings are a reasonable value (choices: outdated iMac or prohibitively expensive Mac Pro).

I have been waiting almost three months for Apple to announce a new iMac today or at least update the hardware in some way. A small part of me was hoping for a 'consumer level' mini tower, but I knew that was out of the question. An iMac update seemed like a sure thing. I was so sure it was going to happen that I even transferred all the necessary funds to my debit account to order all the new gear today.

I am in shock.

Thanks for the new software offerings, Apple. I guess I'll have to build hackintoshes to run it.

--SONET
I was in pretty much the same boat. Was going to make the switch, saved for months, and my wife and I didn't even get Christmas girfts for each other as a new Mac was going to be our present to each other. Now I need to decide if I just just say f it and buy another PC or wait....and frankly I'm tired of waiting.
 
I have to wonder if this is the reason Apple is bowing out of Macworld. It's kind of obvious that they really didn't have much ready to announce this time around, which is the downside to being forced onto a convention's schedule to announce new products. What if your products just aren't ready?

I'm kind of surprised about the complaining about the Mini. I'd have figured that on a Mac based message board, most of the people posting would have gone for a higher level product than a mini. Guys, I have a sneaking suspicion that the mini is a dead end product. It's kind of obvious that Apple isn't interested in supporting it.

I'm not too disappointed by the announcements, but then I'm not in the market for a new device. Having treated myself to an iPhone for Christmas, I'm actually kind of glad they didn't announce anything new for it. :)
Well franly most of us have no need for a Mac Pro and really $2,800 for a laptop is a lot no matter how much you use it. Dead end product or not it's pretty clear Apple has a market they are doing little to satisfy, which means there are lots of dollars they aren't getting as a result.
 
That's just not right. My MacBook Pro is not even 2 weeks old. Had I known this was coming, I could have waited 2 weeks to order it. They should go back 30 or 60 days to cover recent purchases. That would be no big deal to them. I don't mind paying the $9.95 to cover shipping.

Come on Apple. You can do better than that.

Dude, you are listed as a MacRumors "Regular". Meaning you have been with the site for a while. Meaning that you should know that there is the posibility that things will be upgraded at MWSF, and that you are crazyto buy anything shortly before that (either because you will get a free upgrade to '09 with your purchase of new hardware, not to mention there could have been new or newish hardware that would either be something that you would bitch about not getting, or would further drop the price of that MBP you got if they were updated (althoug they obviously were JUST updated).

Long story short: stop bitching about lack of "Price Protection" or "they should give me a free upgrade"l you bought it when you did, get over it. Welcome to the world of technology. Things change fast, and you are naive if you think that something you buy today won't be obsolete within a few weeks (especially if you have the resources to see that the change is potentially coming)
 
I was in pretty much the same boat. Was going to make the switch, saved for months, and my wife and I didn't even get Christmas girfts for each other as a new Mac was going to be our present to each other. Now I need to decide if I just just say f it and buy another PC or wait....and frankly I'm tired of waiting.

I was on the fence with both of you. Here is my advice. Do not wait. Go buy a nice PC desktop or build it yourself. Save some money and get a bigger faster machine. If you need a laptop pick up a sony vaio. They have some great machines on the market for much less than apple. Really the only reason I stick with apple is their software and today is was just fluff. I like what I have but apple needs to try something different or some people are simply going to move away. Like a previous poster said my current software from apple is fine there is really no need to upgrade to this new hello kitty software.
 
Shows as £58.65 if I choose the school option. :confused: I can't choose FE/HE as I'm not on a campus network (and I'm not eligible either!)

Hmmm, strange. I remember seeing that figure somewhere else too. I was trying to find a link but couldn't see the new iLife in the UK education store, and so I opened up one of those chat windows with someone who sent me a link to a £30< page....

What was also strange was that they didn't ask me for identity of my school or anything, maybe they just match it up with my bank details or something? Strange...
 
I hate to keep picking on you, but your posts makes no sense to me.

What exactly can't you get done with the current Apple products that you could have gotten done with the Apple products you "used to love"?

Again, I am not saying you have to like the updates or even be happy about them, but you keep saying the same stuff with no real details.

So my question to you is what real "stuff" can't you get done on a Mac that you can do on a Linux box?

And if your answer is going to be a something about no Mac mini upgrade or iMac upgrade or a mini-tower or no netbook, you still have not answered the question, which is, again, what stuff can't you get done?

Well, "what you can do with Apple products?" merely boils down to: "What you can do with OSX". It is not hardware, it is purely software. And the answer is -of course- that OSX can do anything that a Linux box can do and then some. It is simply an issue of price: a linux (windows) box with similar specs costs half.

I love OSX and iLife, but the hardware side of "Apple products" is lagging in terms of the ratio power/price.
The Mini is the most blatant example.

Another example: why there is still no tablet? It would seem to me such a perfect fit for Apple. Your options lie in HP or Samsung.

Another example: why they pulled firewire from macbooks? Now I can't buy one since my camcorder uses a firewire!
 
I have to wonder if this is the reason Apple is bowing out of Macworld. It's kind of obvious that they really didn't have much ready to announce this time around, which is the downside to being forced onto a convention's schedule to announce new products. What if your products just aren't ready?

I'm kind of surprised about the complaining about the Mini. I'd have figured that on a Mac based message board, most of the people posting would have gone for a higher level product than a mini. Guys, I have a sneaking suspicion that the mini is a dead end product. It's kind of obvious that Apple isn't interested in supporting it.

I'm not too disappointed by the announcements, but then I'm not in the market for a new device. Having treated myself to an iPhone for Christmas, I'm actually kind of glad they didn't announce anything new for it. :)

I was kinda hoping to put a new Mac Mini in my home theater setup and hook it up to my new Elgato EyeTV 250 Plus TV tuner and record live TV with it, beats having to set my Macbook on the floor because I can't cram it into my entertainment center along with my new 40 " HDTV.
 
I'm hoping the updated version of iMovie is an improvement over the last one ('08). My wife just bought a new video camera that only outputs in AVCHD, which doesn't play nice with iMovie '06 on my G5 desktop. Of course I'm still going to have to update to an Intel mac at some point...

Keep in mind one thing I noted on the iLife 09 page- AVCHD can only be dealt with using an Intel based Mac with a Core 2 Duo processor or better, so your G5 will still do iMovie, but not AVCHD footage.
 
Well franly most of us have no need for a Mac Pro and really $2,800 for a laptop is a lot no matter how much you use it. Dead end product or not it's pretty clear Apple has a market they are doing little to satisfy, which means there are lots of dollars they aren't getting as a result.

But there are less expensive offerings than the pro line. This isn't a case of "spend $3000 or nothing." I'm just surprised by how vocal the complaining is for a lack of a $400 barebones option.

As far as the market is concerned, I agree with you about it's a market Apple isn't really going for. I'm not sure if it's because of Jobs obvious disdain for cheap computers, or , more likely, the fact that a fully updated mini would probably canibalize some of the imacs sales.
 
I was kinda hoping to put a new Mac Mini in my home theater setup and hook it up to my new Elgato EyeTV 250 Plus TV tuner and record live TV with it, beats having to set my Macbook on the floor because I can't cram it into my entertainment center along with my new 40 " HDTV.

Will the current Mini not do that? Seriously, I'm curious. It seems like an entertainment center is the perfect use for a mini, but I'm not sure if there are hardware limitations that would stop the current mini from serving that purpose.
 
How is this better

I came across in mid-November from the Windows world.
At that time I bought iWork, iLife, and bunches of other software.
6 weeks later, it's obsolete, and no free upgrade for recent purchasers.
I'm beginning to miss the way I was treated by Microsoft. They'd have given recent purchasers a free upgrade path, I've been there dozens of times over the past 3 decades.

I'm more than slightly miffed.
 
Anyone find out how much additional lessons are going to cost?

From the article your posting on:

"GarageBand '09
- Learn to Play: Teaches how to play an instrument with video instruction from professionals/celebrities. Nine basic lessons included, with additional downloads available at $4.99 each from within the app."
 
I am most interested in the lessons. Apple has a chance to really hit one out of the park with this concept.

In addition to pop stars teaching you to play their songs, they should find a talented, non-famous teacher that you can buy generic lessons from.

That would be amazing.

I too am excited about these lessons....I'd love to learn piano.
 
Got iLife '09 pre-ordered for $70 with tax/shipping so why not. Mainly excited about iMovie and iPhoto...never use the other junk.
 
I came across in mid-November from the Windows world.
At that time I bought iWork, iLife, and bunches of other software.
6 weeks later, it's obsolete, and no free upgrade for recent purchasers.
I'm beginning to miss the way I was treated by Microsoft.

iLife/iWork '08 suddenly stopped working? :eek:
Boy… bad Apple.
:rolleyes:
 
Faces looks incredible!

I'm amazed at the negativity expressed here. After watching the Faces demo on the iPhoto page at Apple.com, I'm absolutely blown away by this feature, and it goes FAR beyond extra "eye-candy" as one person put it.

I am going to save a TON of time not having to manually tag people in photos in facebook, and not having to leave iPhoto to manage these albums is even better. I also use flickr as well so the Flickr integration is even better again!

How can anyone say "I thought this event was about Macs??" - features like this in iPhoto would absolutely bring the masses who use facebook across to the Mac in my opinion.

I wonder what people are thinking of Google's new (very average looking) Picasa Mac client after the keynote?

I'm sure updates to the Mac Mini / iMac etc are still coming...
 
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